| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
|
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
2010/04/18 16:50:07
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Ontario
|
They are better on Plague Marines as they have the feal no pain rule which really helps with Gets Hot!. I have run a command squad with a Captain Apothecary and 4 guys with plasma guns. Its very much a shock unit, generally it jumps out of a Razorback and then kills a unit dead then occasionally gets counterassaulted or shot to gak.
|
DCDA:90-S++G+++MB++I+Pw40k98-D+++A+++/areWD007R++T(S)DM+ |
|
|
 |
|
2010/04/18 21:09:03
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
1st Lieutenant
|
I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:Norade wrote:On the Tervigon issue, 4 shots, 2.666 hits, for 0.888 wounds isn't great and are actually worse than melta guns which get 2 hits, 1.333 hits, and 1.111 wounds for less points.
Shurely shome mishtake? Plasma guns should be looking at a 3+ to wound with no armour or FNP saves, so that'd be 2.66 hits and 1.77 wounds. Dunno how you got half of that, were you including a cover save? If so, it's only fair to apply that to meltas as well.
I accidentally punched in 1/3rd instead of 2/3rds. 
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/18 23:40:56
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Power-Hungry Cultist of Tzeentch
|
"Quick to the point, to the point no fakin, cookin MC's like a pound of bacon." Apparently Vanilla Ice uses plasma guns in his army.
|
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/19 01:37:52
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Sneaky Lictor
|
I wonder if the ice helps keep those overheat burns under control?
|
  
Pink and silver mech eldar- suckzorz
Hive fleet - unstoppable
09-10 tourney record (small 10-20 person events)- 24/4/1
CAG 2010-3rd
▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂ |
|
|
|
|
2010/04/19 02:13:08
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Mounted Kroot Tracker
|
Halsfield wrote:
It is more like someone asking which variety of apple you enjoy the most.
McIntosh.
I find too much plasma spam costs a bit too much for my tastes.
I usually run my tacs with
Missile Launcher (tanks, infantry, MCs)- It's good for killing everything equally badly.
Flamer or Meltagun (depends on my mood, infantry or ICs, MCs, tanks)-A solid choice but it will either not be in range or miss half the time.
Plasma pistol(MCs, tanks, ICs)- Mainly for killing MCs.
Melta Bombs(tanks)- for killing tanks.
The plasma pistol is very useful, especially when fighting wraithlords, but the other spots in your list are best reserved for the other weapons to better deal with all comers.
|
Night Watch SM
Kroot Mercenaries  W 2 - D 3 - L 1
Manchu wrote: This is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone says, "it won't change so why should I bother to try?" and then it doesn't change so people feel validated in their bad behavior.
Nightwatch's Kroot Blog
DQ:90-S++G++M-B++I+Pw40k08#+D+A--/cWD-R+T(S)DM+
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/19 08:41:58
Subject: Re:plasma still good.
|
|
Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
|
I think plasma is still highly effective, in certain situations and on certain units. A drop pod kept in reserve with some plasma gunners is good for dislodging a MEQ unit off a capture point. A bike squad with plasma is good, with speed to get around cover and a relentless to shoot and charge. Outflanking eldar warwalkers with starcannon/s hurt my marines when they walk on. Plasma i find is best suited to a speedy delivery platform with some way of negating cover- dropping behind or flanking around it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/19 16:11:31
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
|
I have been exparementing with Grey Hunters with 2 Plasma Guns as Point Defence and it hjas been working out real well. I vaporise 2-3 models every volly and then the Bolt Guns usualy Kill another 5-10 [2-3 MEQs].
|
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/20 07:30:03
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
CT
|
I've been toying with trying out a squad of honor guard with jump packs and 4 plasmaguns as a pinpoint heavy infantry hunter. With Decent of Angels I think they could pop down pretty close to where I want them and FNP should help them shrug off some return fire.
Unfortunately I feel that for 225 points I can probably find better uses for those points.
Cheers,
~Volkan
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/20 07:37:30
Subject: Re:plasma still good.
|
|
Revving Ravenwing Biker
|
As a Dark Angel/Guard Leman Russ Executioner player...PLASMA PLASMA PLASMA!
|
-Any terrain containing Sly Marbo is dangerous terrain.
-Sly Marbo once played an objective mission just to see what it was like to not meet every victory condition on his own.
-Sly Marbo bought a third edition rulebook just to play meat grinder as the attacker.
-Marbo doesn't need an Eldar farseer as an ally; his enemies are already doomed
-Sly Marbo was originally armed with a power weapon, but he dropped it while assaulting a space marine command squad just so his enemies could feel pain
-Sly Marbo still attacks the front armor value in assault, for pity's sake. |
|
|
|
|
2010/04/20 14:49:45
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
|
Volkan wrote:I've been toying with trying out a squad of honor guard with jump packs and 4 plasmaguns as a pinpoint heavy infantry hunter. With Decent of Angels I think they could pop down pretty close to where I want them and FNP should help them shrug off some return fire.
Unfortunately I feel that for 225 points I can probably find better uses for those points.
Cheers,
~Volkan
I run a Command Squad with 4 Plasma Guns and an Apothicary. At times it is worth every Point for the 8 S-7 AP-2 Shots
|
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/20 19:09:54
Subject: Re:plasma still good.
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Maybe I missed it but the thing people seem to be forgetting is the 24" range of the plasma gun. That makes it extremely valuable to me. And if someone deepstrikes next to my gun line, say hello to 9 plasma guns & 25+ heavy weapons squads.
GG
|
|
|
|
|
2010/04/21 06:27:15
Subject: Re:plasma still good.
|
|
Bounding Assault Marine
|
Plasma Killed my Tervigon  So yeah it's good
|
No good will come of this, No good at all
WAAAGH! FOR THE EMPEROR!
 Midnight Dragons: 2000pts Wins 3 Loses 1 Draws 0
 The Fox Knights: 4218pts Wins 1 Loses 2 Draws 0
 King Krumpz Boyz: 2965pts Wins 1 Loses 1 Draws 1
Tigrus Vespa Hive: Spawning Wins 3 Loses 5 Draws 0
 500-pts |
|
|
|
|
2010/04/21 07:52:13
Subject: plasma still good.
|
|
Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
|
Volkan wrote:I've been toying with trying out a squad of honor guard with jump packs and 4 plasmaguns as a pinpoint heavy infantry hunter. With Decent of Angels I think they could pop down pretty close to where I want them and FNP should help them shrug off some return fire.
Unfortunately I feel that for 225 points I can probably find better uses for those points.
Cheers,
~Volkan
Battlecannons ignore FNP and love expensive troops bunched up after deepstriking 
On a similiar note, Plasmaguns ignore FNP too! good to ok rolling with plasmaguns against my plague marines (out of cover) results in 3-4 plague marines dead... Meltaguns is 1-2. IMO a plasmagunner squad is required in a balanced marine force because they do help so much vs Terminators and MEQ's.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
%@!&