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Speed Freaks stole them all because da go fast.

grav-vehicles were outlawed after the horus heresy but wether you would describe jetbikes as grav-vehicles or not is up to you

Grey Templar wrote:

BloodDrop101X wrote:yeah but you would think they would/could make more though doesn't the land speeder use anti grav tech to?

Landspeeders skim along the planets magnetic field so it uses a totally different technology for a similer result.

land speeders use small anti gravity plates to gain lift they can make them but only at that size ..they dont ACTUALLY know how they work.. they just copy the design they have . they were part of an stc found by techno archaeologist arkhan lands after an expedition into the libraius omnis below mars (I.E.2 page 117 )
jetbikes are far more complicated and as such the tech has been lost so the one they have left is the only one that has never broken down ..because if it ever did they dont know how to fix it !!!!!!!!


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GW will bring hover bikes back eventually- they'll just say they found this magic STD (oops... I mean STC) on some lost world that tells them how to make them.

*Punches Eldar Jet biker in the head*

Got one!

Zooms off.

ductvader wrote:*Punches Eldar Jet biker in the head*

Got one!

Zooms off.

Problem solved.

I am I the only one who notes the irony that the ork codex has a jetbike unit but the Space Marine codex does not?

How do servo skulls and cherubs fly about?

Ironicly servo skulls use anti-grav.

cherubs actually fly.

Im no heretic!

The Mechanicus still has the STC for tiny, skull-sized anti-grav widgets, and the STC for big, Land Speeder anti-grav widgets.

The STC for medium-sized ant-grav widgets has fallen down the back of the techno-sofa or something.

Chances are it really would be as easy as throwing the skull STC in the photocopier and hitting 'enlarge' - STC things tend to be , well, standardised, it's why they're called Standard.

But modifying an STC, even just making it bigger is techno-heresy.

It's probably also techno-heresy to get a bike and strap a hundred skulls to the bottom.

Though it'd be an interesting conversion project, depending on how much you want jetbikes...

(Edit, double post)

(Double Edit - Must be about the only case where the Imperium doesn't cover something with skulls...)

cadian512 wrote:grav-vehicles were outlawed after the horus heresy but wether you would describe jetbikes as grav-vehicles or not is up to you

This is untrue. Wherever cadian512 is getting this information, it is not GW and most likely his imagination.

Many planets in the Imperium have civilian hover vehicles. Why there is no combat jet bike is likely due to there being no STC for it.

The Adeptus Custodes have jet bikes.

well to be honest....like some other race that will never be mentioned lest the wrath of JJ fall on them, all the jetbikes in the imperium were eaten by tyranids.....

alexwars1 wrote:I am I the only one who notes the irony that the ork codex has a jetbike unit but the Space Marine codex does not?

Technically, the Orks have a single man(Ork?) gyrocopter unit that happens to use the same rules as Jetbikes.

ph34r wrote:

cadian512 wrote:grav-vehicles were outlawed after the horus heresy but wether you would describe jetbikes as grav-vehicles or not is up to you

This is untrue. Wherever cadian512 is getting this information, it is not GW and most likely his imagination.

Many planets in the Imperium have civilian hover vehicles. Why there is no combat jet bike is likely due to there being no STC for it.

The Adeptus Custodes have jet bikes.

imperial guard codex (the edition before the current) page 4, origins and history of the imperial guard
paragragh 3- Furthermore, the units of the formation exhibit a frankly puzzling assortment of weapons and troops, including mutants and grav-vehicles. all such units were outlawed after the Horus Heresy according to the earliest volumes of the Tactica imperium.

you were saying...?

Imperial Army hover units were outlawed after the Heresy. Same as Imperial Army Land Raiders, among things.

That is what I was saying. Grav-vehicles were not all outlawed. The military grav-vehicles were taken away from the Imperial Army so that the Space Marines could have the few remaining.

that means space marines could still, possably, in the future have/get jet bikes.

Grey Knights have been strongly suggested to get them.

Yeah and the custodes right? but I dont think you can play them

Grey Templar wrote:that means space marines could still, possably, in the future have/get jet bikes.

As long as they're not jerks *glares at Blood Angels* and keep the STC to themselves then, yeah, all mahriens coud fly on jhet bieks.

Custodes are just Palace Guards, even if they got them they wouldn't be used unless the Imperial Palace was attacked, so they stand around for most of the time.

Seriously though, why hasn't the Ad Mech raged against the Blood Angels yet? They modify their machines (the Divinity of the Machine law ) and have a STC kept away from them, something which Ad Mech will throw a lot of resources into securing. They should at least not let them use the Titans

Here's what you have to remember:

We can still make Landspeeders because we have the necessary STCs to make them; that doesn't mean we know how we work. Though you have the disc you need to install a computer game, you by no means have the skills to reverse-engineer this game and make new ones.

As we don't have the STC to make a jetbike and don't have the knowledge to make new STCs, we can't make more jetbikes.

The Adeptus Mechanicus declares this thread:

Owain wrote:
As we don't have the STC to make a jetbike and don't have the knowledge to make new STCs, we can't make more jetbikes.

I could agree that we no longer have the STC (whether because of simply losing it, or because of intentional hiding of information for whatever reason), but I don't think that restricts us from using jetbikes. Sammael and the DA as well as other chapters are still likely to have stockpiles of jetbikes. It really just comes down to GW wanting eldar to have something interesting and unique and so they took something interesting and unique away from space marines.

ph34r wrote:This is untrue. Wherever cadian512 is getting this information, it is not GW and most likely his imagination.

This kind of thing is uncalled for here. You jumped to conclusions about a person you don't know before doing any kind of research on your own...or I don't know...actually asking him what his source was? Read dakka's rule #1 again.

There is also the 4th edition DA codex that says:

"The only jetbike known to survive into the 41st Millennium is in use by the Master of Dark Angels Ravenwing company, currently Sammael. Jetbikes and their technology are now distrusted by Mankind as being alien and inhuman, purely in the realm of the Eldar and Tau. Sammael's jetbike was built to the highest standards, mounting a plasma cannon and twin-linked storm bolters. It is possible that some Second Founding chapters of the Dark Angels maintain other examples of jetbikes in their armouries."

It certainly doesn't say they were outlawed, but it does point to more than the imperium simply "losing" the STC.

Azezel wrote:It's probably also techno-heresy to get a bike and strap a hundred skulls to the bottom.

Though it'd be an interesting conversion project, depending on how much you want jetbikes...

(Double Edit - Must be about the only case where the Imperium doesn't cover something with skulls...)

I. Can't. Breathe!

That is an AWESOME idea! *adds to her 'to do' list*

Just linked that to my Mechanium friend, who is currently oscillating between 'dear Emperor that's brilliant' and 'heretech!'.

The Imperium "Loses" alot of really cool stuff darn them!

BloodDrop101X wrote:The Imperium "Loses" alot of really cool stuff darn them!

"Loses"...or hides away until the time is right for Grey Knights to ride again!

i seriously hope the grey knights get a jet bike