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Seriously there is only 1 working and still used jet bike in the entire imperium?!?! why what happened to them all?

They stopped making new ones a long time ago and the old ones were gradually lost in action or worn out. This isn't a unique occurrance in this setting. The Navy has very few surviving grand cruisers, for example.

yeah but you would think they would/could make more though doesn't the land speeder use anti grav tech to?

Basic Tech okay, but miniaturisation problems?

BloodDrop101X wrote:yeah but you would think they would/could make more though doesn't the land speeder use anti grav tech to?

The thing is that humans have lost all their engineering knowledge and rely entirely on Standard Template Constructs: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Standard_Template_Construct

BloodDrop101X wrote:yeah but you would think they would/could make more though doesn't the land speeder use anti grav tech to?

Landspeeders skim along the planets magnetic field so it uses a totally different technology for a similer result.

Oh okay I get that aspect but for a lost tech you would think they could send a piece of technology that the art to fixing and producing was lost that they still had that worked to mars to have someone take it apart and copy all the parts and make new ones right?

It's an Eldar conspiracy.... they won't LET the Imperium make jet bikes. Key pieces of technology and plans have mysteriously disappeared. Some say shadowy harlequin solitaires are to blame...

BloodDrop101X wrote:Oh okay I get that aspect but for a lost tech you would think they could send a piece of technology that the art to fixing and producing was lost that they still had that worked to mars to have someone take it apart and copy all the parts and make new ones right?

No, that would be considered Heresy by the Ad Mech as you're not respecting the machine or its spirit by taking it apart. Reverse engineering is a heretical practice for Imperial machines and they tend to only allow it on already heretical Xenos Tech.

They're called "lost tech" for a reason.

Oh wow thats heretical i wouldnt have guessed

There was a similar discussion in my thread about the horus heresy visions book that features a lot of jet bikes. There is little reason to not have jet bikes amongst the chaos legions/cults. The jetbike fell out of favor with the imperium because it became distrusted (read:http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Jetbike) and I believe they simply claimed the STC was "lost" so they could stop producing the heretical machines. It is also said that other 2nd founding chapters from the DA legion could have jetbikes.

In reality it is all just bs fluff to give eldar something a bit more unique.

I still feel chaos could have jetbikes as they have millenia old vehicles given long life due to possession by daemons that hold together hulls that would otherwise have fallen apart.

the adeptus mechanicus probably has a vault full of them or something like that

Probably those A-Holes their not to be fully trusted

The post-heresy GRIMDARK absorbed them.

As with many things they died when the Emperor got stuck in the Golden Throne.

BloodDrop101X wrote:Oh okay I get that aspect but for a lost tech you would think they could send a piece of technology that the art to fixing and producing was lost that they still had that worked to mars to have someone take it apart and copy all the parts and make new ones right?

You do realize this is WH40K and the IOM you're talking about, right?

Science is something the owners of the establishment severely frown upon. Technology is the stuff people pray to, unless they're living on Mars, in which case, it only gives them a mild boner. Common sense will get you shot. fething around with avatars, vessels, relics, or even instruction booklets of the Machine Spirit will get you shot, and your dead body turned into a servitor. And the things that will happen to you for touching Sammael's ride will make the prospect of being repeatedly shot with inch-thick explosive rounds seem particularly appealing by comparison.

sarge stokes wrote:the adeptus mechanicus probably has a vault full of them or something like that

Well duh every saturday night its gp3000 night on mars.

Seriously. In fluff the imperium had/has a lot more tech then we have in game. But it becomes kind of annoying when you have to keep producing a new 3000 pages space marine codex each month. So instead they keep losing and discovering new tech. So we need to buy new models.

Could also be that they aren't efficient at what they do vs a easier to make wheeled bike. When you have a whole army of Astartes your tactics will be different than when you have only a handful on special ops duty.

That's true they probably just keep doing stuff like that for the profit off the models

Well, also because, as some guy mentioned above, it's part of the whole dystopian-ness of 40K. You know the drill; technology is lost, superstition and ignorance take root...

Ok, so there's a few options here.

In the real world, there are lots of models which are unavailable. While GW could hold back on jetbikes to make money, there's a million other things they choose to release first. I doubt this is the reason. The game reason is to differentiate between Eldar and Imperial.

In fluff, there's a few thing to consider.

- In the HH books, Jetbikes are brand new technology, and described as such. Not all legions had access to them to start with.
- Unlike Rhinos and Predators, they're described as being very difficult to maintain. Moreso than even Land Speeders. This explains why Chaos has no access to them.
- Different Forge Worlds guard their secrets. If the Forge World that produces Jetbikes was destroyed (and this is BEFORE Marines had their own forges, and were supplied by the AdMech), and Jetbikes are very hard to maintain, then you can see how there's only one surviving...

Wow, I never thought of that. Kind of explains it quite nicely.

It really does thanks but say I made my own would it be a playable thing?

if it counted as a normal bike then yes.

on a related note Grey Knights are rumored to be getting Jet Bikes in their new codex.

well ive become a fan of the gray knights anyway so this could look good for me hopefully

Mechanicus probably has many things like this hidden away...however certain uber loyalists like the Grey Knights get entrusted with all the cool toys

Lupe wrote:

BloodDrop101X wrote: it only gives them a mild boner.

Grey Templar wrote:on a related note Grey Knights are rumored to be getting Jet Bikes in their new codex.

Grey Knights with jet bikes would give me a mild boner

S_P

Heresy! This is all heresy!

You calling Grey Knights heretics?

Im afraid we've pissed off the little red dudes from mars so


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well its supposed to be a heresy stamp but it kinda failed...you get the jist of it :(