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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 02:25:41
Subject: Re:Your utopian society.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Thats not TOTALLY true. He left out the binding of the feet so they have small feet. Sides I like skinny chicks as much as the next guy, but theres something so much better about a woman with some meat on their bones. And no Im not talking a giant heffer or anything along those lines. Thats just way beyond fetish....... near the edges of like scat or something lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 02:29:50
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Everyone is welcome in my utopia so long as you aren't
A) A liberal
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B) A liberal
If you are liberal than in order to be welcome you must come to accept guns are a part of this country, if it wasn't for rednecks you wouldn't have your cushy office job (after all it's not liberals in 3 piece suits doing building construction) and you must at least realize God exists; you don't have to believe in Him but you must acknowledge He is present in your life.
No binding of females. No rape or molesting either. In my utopia rapists and molesters won't see a trial.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 02:30:06
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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I think I might be a bit to cynical and jaded to belive in a "utopian society",and more so,I have to honestly admit that I don't have the fist idea what one would truely be....as Silver posted earlier...one mans utopia is another mans hell,so obviously no such society can or will exist.
Now,as a personal utopia,I'd like to see a world in wich people can go about their own business (within certian perimiters) with out being persicuted.
where people can exchange ideas/philosophys in a civil manner.
where poverty is unknown and no child goes to bed hungry or afraid.
where people give a damn about more than just their wants and needs.
...and where I am adored by every atractive woman I meet...THAT...is my utopia.
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"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.
 I am Red/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 02:31:52
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The first four I can see happening Fitzz.
Number 5.......well, that day will come the same day that Shuma and I see eye to eye on something.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 02:36:15
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Fateweaver wrote:The first four I can see happening Fitzz.
Number 5.......well, that day will come the same day that Shuma and I see eye to eye on something.

 Your probably right about that Fate...and honestly,if the first 4 could become reality,I could live with out the 5th.
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"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.
 I am Red/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 04:20:03
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Fateweaver wrote:Everyone is welcome in my utopia so long as you aren't
A) A liberal
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B) A liberal
If you are liberal than in order to be welcome you must come to accept guns are a part of this country, if it wasn't for rednecks you wouldn't have your cushy office job (after all it's not liberals in 3 piece suits doing building construction) and you must at least realize God exists; you don't have to believe in Him but you must acknowledge He is present in your life.
No binding of females. No rape or molesting either. In my utopia rapists and molesters won't see a trial.
I don't believe in God, but I'm okay with guns and rednecks, and I'm not very liberal, or a rapist.
Can I come in?
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 04:41:47
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Ontario
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My Utopian Wolrd is pretty much like this one, except I have way more money and the Dark Angels Codex is actually good.
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DCDA:90-S++G+++MB++I+Pw40k98-D+++A+++/areWD007R++T(S)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 04:43:55
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Are you implying it's not good right now!?!? You can take terminators as troops, it's cheesy as hell!
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 04:49:09
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Killer Klaivex
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Everyone is welcome in my utopia so long as you aren't A) A redneck and B) A redneck If you are redneck than in order to be welcome you must come to accept diplomacy is part of this country, if it wasn't for liberals you wouldn't have your fairly-paying job (after all it's not rednecks in overalls fighting for equality) and you must at least accept the possibility that God exists; you don't have to believe in Him, nor do you have to acknowledge He is present in your life if you don't want to. No binding of females except on alternate tuesdays. No rape or molesting either. In my utopia all evidence and possibilities are taking into account in a trial to ensure that there is no misdirected justice. Problem, rednecks?
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 04:57:02
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Ooh, I think I can get in this one too.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 06:08:33
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sounds lame. I like my utopia better.
Your's doesn't allow underage beer drinking or permit-free guns.
I'm out.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 06:25:29
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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I rather like the world as is. Though jet-packs would be nice.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 06:26:39
Subject: Re:Your utopian society.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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You seem to have assumed utopian means a society with a lot of government control, it doesn’t. It can mean a society with little or no government
Government would consist of twelve men, each serving their own 12 year term – each year one man would retire and a new election held for his replacement. Underneath these 12 learned gentlemen there would be a vast and highly inefficient bureaucracy, constantly expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.
Economics – The only tax is an income tax, progressively scaling from 0% for a standard working poor income to 50% for the upper middle class. Primary areas of government expenditure are health, welfare and maintenance of our giant army of titanium robots.
Prison – emphasis on rehabilitation first, protection of society second, with the deterrent effect not valued. Unless you piss me off personally, then you’re going to cop it.
Education – mandatory ten years of schooling, after that if you don’t want to be there there’s no point in making you stay. Emphasis on critical thinking, debate, maths and other fundamental skills, vocational skills to be developed in integrated school and industry partnerships – a sophisticated apprenticeship program, basically.
Transportation – short distance travel would be by penny-farthing, medium distance travel by monorail, and long distance travel by zeppelin.
Citizenship – there would be test to be taken when you turn 18. This test would ask potential citizens a range of questions, from recent political events to correct grammar and pronunciation. The test wouldn’t be that strict but it’d be unlikely any of you ne’er do wells would make pass.
Immigration & non-citizenship status – if you’re pretty we’ll let you stay. If (when) you stop being pretty we’ll kick you out.
Population Control – from the age of 30 all citizens are required to enter Thunderdome to fight another randomly determined citizen. The winner gains another decade in utopia, the loser is turned into Soylent Green.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 06:43:39
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Is there underage beer drinking and permit-free guns?
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 06:57:04
Subject: Your utopian society.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Is there underage beer drinking and permit-free guns?
Alcohol is allowed from any age. However, there'd be a complicated excise system in place, pricing decent stuff up and dropping the price of crap tasting stuff. The only alcohol that'd be affordable to a teenager would be the nastiest liquers. This has two benefits, it'd make binge drinking nearly impossible until you get a job and can afford decent grog, and it'd be hilarious watching kids trying to get smashed on straight Kahlua.
Everyone must carry a gun on their person at all times. There would be state government programs to give guns to the poor and homeless.
Crime would not be an issue, because as mentioned above in transport the only way to escape the scene of the crime is by penny farthing. You try it.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 07:01:55
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In my society there would be.
Although, some states due in fact have permit-free gun ownership. Can't recall which ones but a few do exist.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 07:23:41
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Some interesting ideas here, I will reply to them when I have a bit more time (currently about to go to work  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 11:01:42
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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My utopia... probably the starship troopers world (before the bugs come along) from the book that is. :3
If it's an utopia without much government control... Tribal Wars \o/
And to continue fate's thingy...
Everyone is welcome in my Utopia as long as you arent:
A. A redneck
B. A person who gives a crap about politics and religion.
There will be free booze festivals, daily, music artists that use autotune will be shot on sight. Cops will have to pay the tickets they try to give out, and everyone has the right to not be a dumbass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 11:14:12
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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RustyKnight wrote:Governments Around the Globe Every single nation on Earth has a stable, democratic republic that has both Executive and Legislative branches (I'd imagine that the current judiciary tasks of the SCOTUS could be settled via mixed executive and legislative congressional examination committees). Areas currently filled with strife (Africa and Southeast Asia) would have democratic republics, as would the current communisms (like China). It is interesting that you would keep multiple nations, yet would like to see them all use the same kind of government structure. You would not prefer a single nation, under a single rule? Economic Systems Still mostly capitalist but with plenty of socialist programs. Welfare would still be available, but you would have to work for it. An idea voiced by, I believe Kanluwen, sounded good. He mentioned allowing welfare, but those that use it would be housed in bunkers with passable but spartan quarters. Basically, this would provide for those at the end of their rope, but encourage effort to find outside employment. What about those who loose their jobs but own their own houses etc? Would they have to sell up before they were entitled to welfare? Or would they be able to work for the state from home, rather than live in a welfare bunker? What about families where one member works, but another is claiming benefits? Marriage As a legal status is gone and replaced with civil unions. Marriage is still okay, but it means nothing from a law perspective. Marriage in all but name. A sensible thought. Would civil unions be permitted between all sexes? Would you only allow one partner at a time, or would you cater for groups to marry one another, etc? War Nuclear arms gone. General decrease in world defense spending, although all nations have at least a small set of armed forces (naval, air, ground). Would there be any particular use for armed forces, or would they be used more as disaster relief (etc) forces, rather than fighting in conventional wars?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 21:03:34
Subject: Your utopian society.
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Soladrin wrote:Everyone is welcome in my Utopia as long as you arent: (...) A person who gives a crap about politics and religion (...) and everyone has the right to not be a dumbass.
Doesn't sound like they do...
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 19:56:25
Subject: Re:Your utopian society.
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
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Why all this politcal nonsence? My utopia is going to be run like a Mongol horde, we will live in tents and share wives.
Just to qoute Khornholio.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 20:25:55
Subject: Re:Your utopian society.
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Shadowbrand wrote:Why all this politcal nonsence? My utopia is going to be run like a Mongol horde, we will live in tents and share wives. 
Pretty sure they didn't share their wives... they may have traded them though
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