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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 03:53:16
Subject: 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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Something I just noticed is that you have 9 man assault squads and two special weapons. You need 10 members to get that second special weapon and make it legal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 07:55:48
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Nasty Nob
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I am trying to come up with a 1500 point BA last too - although noone replied to my post
I like the Land Raider list, although it's going to suck badly in some situations. I get slightly different points for your squads - they all seem to be undercosted. And, as has been pointed out, you can't have 2 special weapons unless the squads are full strength. I've found I could only get one squad up to full strength with 3 Land Raiders and 3 Sanguinary Priests, and only then by taking a cheap HQ (a Librarian, although I've never used one before).
You probably should stick with a Sanguinary Priest for each unit, as you'll need to separate your squads to take Objective etc, so you can't count on keeping 2 units under a single Priest's FNP 'bubble'.
I would suggest taking at least one Crusader, for the anti-infantry firepower. This can also carry more than 10 Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 17:37:03
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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I would Rather have the 3 squads of 10 basically then another Land raider. But I am still torn between taking 2 regular raiders. and either 1 crusader or redeemer. Or 1 regular Raider and 2 redeemer or 2 Crusaders.
I took Seth because I just like the model and the rules. Just a General like of the model is why I have him in the army.
I am going to take out the extra Sang Priest. And equipped the Sergeants with powerfists.
What do you guys think I should do about my land raider dilemma.
The Units are under costs because the land raiders are dedicated transports. Meaning they are 35 points cheaper for Assault Marines.
And thank you for pointing the double special weapons I didn't notice. But now I am torn should I take Flamers or meltas?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/15 17:39:43
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 18:16:29
Subject: 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Member of the Malleus
Pasadena, California
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Power fists arn't always useful sure you may hit more and harder but you hit last and since you are running such small squads the likely hood of you winning in melee past their attacks vs full strength squads you might not even live long enough to use the fist.
Redeemer's are good if you plan on using them as assault ramps. Because they have such good anti horde weapons and such short range you want to get in peoples faces with them and since you are already in their face you can then unload your marines then they can assault a squad that was already hit with the flamestorm cannon and what ever else you put on them.
However that being said if you continue with the squads of 5 you really arn't going to want to charge another squad because your units are more valuable per unit vs the other squad. Like say you charge a squad of 10 grey hunters. They are more then likely going to get their counter charge off and then you are only leveling what 4 attacks per assault marine. Say you both kill the same amount and level 2 wounds on each other. You now your squad is 3 men strong vs 7 and you are both striking at same initiative next round making it more then likely your squad is destroyed.
Now if you pick god fists then you are just sitting back and firing lascannon shots off and just using the marines inside to either cap points or just stay in their shell till the game is done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 18:35:19
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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I am running almost full squads 9 mans with sang priests. And a 8 man with a sang priest and Seth. I might do 2 Redeemers and 1 Crusader not sure though.
I want almost full sized squads so that they have the lasting ability. It is basically 30 marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 18:41:32
Subject: 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Member of the Malleus
Pasadena, California
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I'd say try out the 2 redeemers. Redeemers are going to force you to play aggressive with them to make use of their weapons and assault ramps. You might want to try using just a regular LR to make use of its lascannons for some anti armor or at least the range.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 18:42:58
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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Yeah that sounds like a good variety of raiders give the God hammer a Multi Melta. I think the list should be set now i still have like 70 points to work with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 18:46:28
Subject: 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Member of the Malleus
Pasadena, California
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Yeah see how that works out for you. 70 points is some upgrades or filling up troops
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 18:58:41
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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Can I still have 10 man units and attach a character to it? Also I was thinking of taking a Sang Priest out and putting a Librarian in the Seth unit.
What do you guys think?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/15 19:15:22
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 19:41:07
Subject: 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Member of the Malleus
Pasadena, California
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I'm pretty sure you can just have to make sure there's enough room in the transport for all the models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 19:55:34
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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Oh alright cool.
So my updated list is
Flesh Tearers
HQ
Gabriel Seth
Librarian
Elite
Sanguinary Priest x2
Troops
Assualt Squad x 9
Land Raider Redeemer 205
Assualt Squad x 9
Land Raider Redeemer 205
Assualt Squad x 8
Land Raider 215
Total
1461
What should I do with the 40 extra points?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 20:06:55
Subject: 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Member of the Malleus
Pasadena, California
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More assault or upgrades for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 20:12:08
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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Yeah I was thinking of giving the Sergeants Power Weapons. Or beefing the units up to 9 each.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 20:14:28
Subject: 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Member of the Malleus
Pasadena, California
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I'd say power weapons because the whole unless you have an invuln save you don't get to save the wound
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 20:22:53
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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Or should I give my Raiders Extra armor or Multi Meltas over Power weapons? This is basically the last detail for the army. Then it should be final.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 04:10:51
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Nasty Nob
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Are the squads all nekkid? It looks as though they are, otherwise I don't think you can get all of that in for the points. I reckon you should at least have a few power weapons (I would suggest power fists, but it's been pointed out to me fairly convincingly that power weapons are preferable in BA squads with a Priest in tow). That would use up your remaining points.
I always take a multi-melta on my Crusader, and it never hits anything. Your mileage may vary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 04:59:27
Subject: Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
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Courageous Skink Brave
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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Yeah power weapons seems like the best option. Alright thanks guys I think this is a much better list with everyone's input.
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