Are HAAC gamers ruining 40k/Fantasy

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**Honersstodnt**

**MagickalMemories**

Gitsplitta wrote:Common sense... show a little respect, get a little respect in return. And the world keeps spinning.....

You, sir, should hold your tongue.
That kind of positive, friendly point of view has NO place in the online gaming community.

Do NOT make me demotivationally posterize something at you!

: )

Eric

**Gitsplitta**

Ah, my good man.... I would deserve no less for taking a rather snarky OP and giving it a thoughtful answer.

guilty as charged

**Karon**

**theHandofGork**

Karon wins.

**Kanluwen**

Colonel Guile is not amused by your antics.

**Xca|iber**

Gitsplitta wrote:It's all about respecting your opponent, and not ramming your ideas of "the hobby" down their throat. I try to have a nicely painted army, I enjoy the game more playing other nicely painted armies... but if that's not what you value in the hobby, who am I to rain on your parade? I agreed to "take the field" with you after all. If I'm so shallow and thin-skinned as to be offended by someone who views and values the hobby differently than I do, I should take my minis and creep back down into my mommy's basement where I can play my own little games against my other army painted to my exacting specifications... just the way I like it. If I agree to play a game (or enter a tournament), then I need to grow a pair and hope that perhaps the example I set by my play, demeanor and well painted army may inspire others to do the same. That way I get to play more opponents that view things the way I do.

Common sense... show a little respect, get a little respect in return. And the world keeps spinning.....

I had this long post written out... but this basically sums it up for me. Thanks Gitsplitta.

WAAC gamers need to realize that there's more to WH/40k than winning - if that's all you care about, play chess. With dice.
HAAC gamers need to realize that there's a game under all that hobby - don't look down on people who actually enjoy playing, and on occasion, winning.

**Kirasu**

I have 6k of guard, 10k of eldar and almost 20k of blood angels fully painted and detailed.. Ive also won the prelim/semis of 'ard boyz in my area for 3 years straight + almost all the other tournaments

Oh I also write narrative apocalypse games with storylines.. What am I??!? Im so confused!! Please I need a label so I can be elitist and snub others who are BENEATH ME

am I a WAAC, a HAAC, a FAAC? WTFAAC??

**Unholy_Martyr**

Kirasu...I think you have evolved into some greater than at all costs...you have officially become bored with life...

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

40kAAC?

**Maxstreel**

dietrich wrote:Nixon would eat Riker for a between meal snack.

There's plenty of room in the hobby for lots of interests. People need to grasp that. And people need to realize that you're both in the hobby to have fun, and seek out people of similar mind-set (hobbyist, power gamer, or like 80% of gamers - somewhere in the middle).

Would that be Riker with the beard or without?

**The Night Stalker**

I don't have any real problems with people like that, however if somebody like this player at my FLGS is being outright insulting or rude because your models don't look like Jesus Christ himself graced them with his mighty artistic hand, avoid them. Arguing with an idiot just wastes time and energy, and after all its just a game.

**Le Grognard**

CptZach wrote:For those of us that either have no talent when it comes to artsy stuff or would just rather focus on the game at hand, we are always made out to be the jerk by the HAAC gamer.

I can help you out there.

*shameless plug*

**robertsjf**

Kanluwen wrote:At last count, the document on Word was 22 pages.

Single space 11 point calibri, arial or times new roman? Anything more and you're padding, and padding is the only type of fluff I hate!

**Kilkrazy**

I'm a Fun At All Costs gamer.

Everyone else can FAAC off.

**Kanluwen**

robertsjf wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:At last count, the document on Word was 22 pages.

Single space 11 point calibri, arial or times new roman? Anything more and you're padding, and padding is the only type of fluff I hate!

Times New Roman 4 Life.

As to the painting aspect of the hobby...

I find it irritating when people complain "Well, I'm not good at it! So I don't do it".

You're not going to get good at it by ignoring it. Do you think most people with their first painted armies make 'Eavy Metal level stuff? Of course not. It takes practice and devoting effort to it.

God forbid someone do that though.

**RaegMachine**

cool story bro

**Kanluwen**

You're two pages late to post that useless drivel.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

**Kanluwen**

Falcon Khan does not approve.

**Hellfury**

Red_Lives wrote:Honestly the OP has a legit point. the HAAC community has dominated a local store near me. As a result hardly anyone goes to the gamestore to play games, but they are always painting. Think about that for a moment, people at the gamestore don't go to play games anymore, just paint and talk. Now there is nothing wrong with hanging out at the local shop, many people do it. But I do find it odd that people go to gamestores without the intention of... PLAYING GAMES!

Perhaps because its....*gasp* A HOBBY SHOP!?!

Games are hobbies. They fall under the heading of hobbies like painting, collecting, etc. In a hobby shop, you do a myriad of things related to hobbies. Hence why it is a hobby shop.

Must be rough watching them sit there and painting. Taunting you with their paintbrushes as they stroke them across primered dollies. Chit chatting away and enjoying themselves.

Obviously, you should kick their asses and then burn down the shop for allowing such annoying activity to take place.

**malfred**

Red_Lives wrote:Honestly the OP has a legit point. the HAAC community has dominated a local store near me. As a result hardly anyone goes to the gamestore to play games, but they are always painting. Think about that for a moment, people at the gamestore don't go to play games anymore, just paint and talk. Now there is nothing wrong with hanging out at the local shop, many people do it. But I do find it odd that people go to gamestores without the intention of... PLAYING GAMES!

There are also alot of gamers like myself who feel they enjoy all aspects of the hobby. We have well painted models that are used in strong competitive lists, we have background story for our armies but we also enjoy the game aspect. The HAAC community tends to be "elitist" looking down on young/new players is quite common amongst them.

I think I'm going to start doing this. I need to get more painting done and I'm at the game shop
at least once a week. It should help me get a ton of stuff underway.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

I started painting in between games at the FLGS or rarely I'll only bring hobby projects with me. I get a lot more done up there than when I paint/sculpt/clean at home by myself.

**Alpharius**

Kilkrazy wrote:I'm a Fun At All Costs gamer.

Everyone else can FAAC off.

And the winner is...!

Seriously, are HAAC/FAAC/etc.AAC gamers even a problem?

This whole thread smells of something alright...

**Hellfury**

Alpharius wrote:

Cleansed with fire. Its the only way to be sure....

**Hawkins**

mikhaila wrote:
avantgarde wrote:I know what you mean op. I was playing in an Apoc game and this guy debuted his scratch built Warlord titan. It wasn't one of the crappy scratch builds you see all the time made out of tubes and card board, this thing was legit. Looked like a walking cathedral, had stain glass windows and the whole thing was wired to light up. He said he spent 3 months working on the thing plus it was built so it could be broken down to fit in a carry case. So he deploys it in the corner behind a wall of IG armor so it can pummel the table with impunity. Naturally I deep struck a Mawloc onto it the first chance I got and instantly killed it because it had no where to move. So this guy has the audacity to be pissed off and calls me a rules lawyering douche nozzle who is ruining the game and I was like ltp noob.

Funny story, and I absolutely agree with him.)

Dont blame the player, blame the Game

OP: Hey man its Your hobby, make of it what you will, your going to face all types, Have fun, try and make it fun for your opponent and those around you.

**CT GAMER**

robertsjf wrote:

You 3 color coat win-bunnies make me sick. I don't want to face off against your latest codex, flavor of the week, barely assembled and primed army that you've fed through the cheese grater! If you can't bring some crazy mad painting skillz and your A-game background, stay in your Mom's damn basement!

This would be funnier if it also didn't actually make perfect sense...

**Hellfury**

CT GAMER wrote:
robertsjf wrote:

You 3 color coat win-bunnies make me sick. I don't want to face off against your latest codex, flavor of the week, barely assembled and primed army that you've fed through the cheese grater! If you can't bring some crazy mad painting skillz and your A-game background, stay in your Mom's damn basement!

This would be funnier if it also didn't actually make perfect sense...

**theHandofGork**

**Blarglord**

We have people at out gaming store, some are about modelling and painting (I actually am praised at the store for having one of the only fully painted armies.) But all and all we just like to play. Fluff is fluff. Rules are rules. Field what you want as long as it is legal to the rules. People forget the number one rule in the rule book: Have Fun.
No point spending what time one gets to play making the other person feel like crap. Nothing gets accomplished and makes people keep from playing.