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porkuslime wrote:Nope.. Genestealers Rend, thus on a 6 get to add a further 1d3.. so, net 14-16..

(and I run a 120 genestealer list at high point levels.. )

Uh.

You don't get Rending added to your grenades.

Ah! Ya got me..

I completely mis-took that.. You are correct..

And... Land Raiders are still hard nuts to crack.. crud.

Yay more wacky stuff to fit into games and create ideas from

Buy more stuff!!!

Muh ha ha ha!!!!!

I love that the points cost in the example and the actual formation are different.

That was kinda cool. Nothing amazing (and definitely not enough to make a whole new Planetstrike-sized book from) but still pretty cool.

porkuslime wrote:Nope.. Genestealers Rend, thus on a 6 get to add a further 1d3.. so, net 14-16..

(and I run a 120 genestealer list at high point levels.. )

Um grenades don't use your rending trait lol

BlueDagger wrote:

porkuslime wrote:Nope.. Genestealers Rend, thus on a 6 get to add a further 1d3.. so, net 14-16..

(and I run a 120 genestealer list at high point levels.. )

Um grenades don't use your rending trait lol

yup.. had that pointed out to me at the top of the page.. le sigh

Brother SRM wrote:That was kinda cool. Nothing amazing (and definitely not enough to make a whole new Planetstrike-sized book from) but still pretty cool.

Definitely interesting. I like anything that offers a new way to play the game or that lends itself to campaign/scenario play, and this fits that bill nicely.

Also: Super heavies in non-Apoc games?!?

"Now witness da power of dis fully armed and operational Stompa..."

Regardless this is a good first attempt to return WD to a more game content oriented format and I applaud the move on the part of the new editor, and i hope it continues.

What I hope doesn't happen is the all the interwebz blow hards and whiners don't bitch and moan about this simply to be heard like they usually do, because I'm sure the new editor/GW are looking at threads like this one, and if the feedback is less than ideal or if all they are getting is grief then it could nix future projects like this...

Sweet, I'm going to give this a read

Just read the rules and download. Looks great. Chance for some really fun/potentially silly battles. I like the thought of outflanking orks in trukks, Land Raiders with invulnerable saves, gangs of massive nids and deffkoptas racing across the table to shower the enemy in a fusillade of rokkits. Looks designed to make the game fun.

Agree impressed with the decision to make the rules essentially free, or the cost of a WD.

Pete Downson of GW - protip on painting your tanks: Drill your frikkin' barrels! Particularly if you're representing GW's painters and modelers!

Can someone post them up here? I'm at work and they won't let us on GWs site.


Thanks,

First time trying, here we go...

My favorite is the one that allows you to have 3 landraiders full of termies, mech assult I think with outflank. Ouch :(

Actually str 8 autocannon scout sentinals would also be awesome.

UltraPrime wrote:First time trying, here we go...

That worked perfectly - thank you!

So, I'm confused about two things:

1- A spearhead can have up to three tank units. for Guard, does this mean 3 tanks or 9? Same question for walkers. Sentinels come in squads of 3, are those 3 sentinel spearheads or 9?

2 - The ability to shoot an extra weapon. Can this be ordinance? So a spearhead of manticores can move cruising speed and then shoot a manticore rocket?

EDIT:

A third question:

3 - If the answer to question 1 is 9 tanks, do they act as three squads of 3 each, or are each independent?

Yes, thanks a lot-I can't normally get on the GW site at work, so you just made my day UltraPrime-TWICE NOW!!

Scottywan82 wrote:So, I'm confused about two things:

1- A spearhead can have up to three tank units. for Guard, does this mean 3 tanks or 9? Same question for walkers. Sentinels come in squads of 3, are those 3 sentinel spearheads or 9?

2 - The ability to shoot an extra weapon. Can this be ordinance? So a spearhead of manticores can move cruising speed and then shoot a manticore rocket?

EDIT:

A third question:

3 - If the answer to question 1 is 9 tanks, do they act as three squads of 3 each, or are each independent?

Yes, you can have 3x3 units! And each squadron of 3 may operate independently.

1) if it says tank unit then it can be up to 3 units of 3.

2) According to the pdf (not the full WD rules) raw wise I guess you could fire the HB and then the rocket.

3) 3 squads of 3

Well this looks like it will make some games a bit more exciting, but not to the same degree as city fight, apocalypse or planet strike.

If they didn't release these rules for free then there would be outrage in the community. But still looks like it will be fun for a bit of a change in campaign themed games.

I like that it can assign a points value for certain rules so for a campain you can make it a little more "balanced"

Okay, so My Armored Spearhead is:

Choice 1 - 3 LRBTs acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K (ie, all have to shoot at the same target, must travel together, rules for immobilized and crew shaken)

Choice 2 - ANOTHER 3 LRBTs acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K

Choice 3 - 3 Basilisks acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K

That's one Spearhead.

Scottywan82 wrote:So, I'm confused about two things:

1- A spearhead can have up to three tank units. for Guard, does this mean 3 tanks or 9? Same question for walkers. Sentinels come in squads of 3, are those 3 sentinel spearheads or 9?

2 - The ability to shoot an extra weapon. Can this be ordinance? So a spearhead of manticores can move cruising speed and then shoot a manticore rocket?

EDIT:

A third question:

3 - If the answer to question 1 is 9 tanks, do they act as three squads of 3 each, or are each independent?

1 - Yes up to 3 squadrons of 3
2 - You still have to follow normal shooting rules as per that paragraph. So yes, you could move cruising then shoot a direct shot with the manticore, but not barrage.
3 - You must have a model of each squadron within 4" of each other at the beginning of the shooting phase or they lose the Spearhead bonuses.


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Scottywan82 wrote:Okay, so My Armored Spearhead is:

Choice 1 - 3 LRBTs acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K (ie, all have to shoot at the same target, must travel together, rules for immobilized and crew shaken)

Choice 2 - ANOTHER 3 LRBTs acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K

Choice 3 - 3 Basilisks acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K

That's one Spearhead.

Correct, and a bejesus load of points ;D
Now if the 180 boyz with thermite charges gets ahold of you all bets are off ;D

Scottywan82 wrote:Okay, so My Armored Spearhead is:

Choice 1 - 3 LRBTs acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K (ie, all have to shoot at the same target, must travel together, rules for immobilized and crew shaken)

Choice 2 - ANOTHER 3 LRBTs acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K

Choice 3 - 3 Basilisks acting a squad within the normal rules of 40K

That's one Spearhead.

As I read the rules, I think that each unit of 3 must be chosen from same entry. So 3 x 3 LRs is legal, 3 x 3 Basilisks is legal, but mixing both is not. I think.

It just says armored units so any three kinds of (codex legal) tank squads should be able to make a spearhead. Remember though each squad has to be within 4 inches of the other or it does not get the special rules.

Has anyone else noticed anything a bit odd about the page numbering at all ?

When I view the link my reader (is that ?) informs me that I am starting on page 18...

..I'm pretty certain the WD article aint 17 pages long... hmm.. I heard something last week that this was originally considered for worked on as a "proper" book style release and didn't think anyhting of it.

Still, hooray for free stuff either way I guess.

Lorne wrote:It just says armored units so any three kinds of (codex legal) tank squads should be able to make a spearhead. Remember though each squad has to be within 4 inches of the other or it does not get the special rules.

Under "Choosing Units"

Unless stated otherwise, all of the units in a spearhead
must be chosen from the same entry in the army list,
though they may take different options and upgrades.
Remember that even though normally an entry allows
you to buy a single vehicle, in some army lists an entry
will allow you to buy an entire squadron of vehicles!

Bah, assuming we've read that is like assuming we've read the directions to the dvd player.

OOPS! deff wrong on that one then. I was thinking it would not be very useful to have different types of tanks with the same special rules.