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halonachos wrote:The US never burnt down the English capital. Anyways, if you think that the US doesn't consider the english as rivals, you've missed out on a lot. We're on a level similar to Scotland or Ireland minus the terror activities.
mattyrm wrote:It wont affect soccer in the states, they hosted the world cup and that didnt do anything either.
WRONG!!!
The USA World Cup was used as a springboard for the relaunching of a major soccer league. And it's still going. (Even though admittedly I can't stand to watch much of it and prefer european soccer)
Skarwael, no idea how you can guess an age from that, but you are off by about 8 years and I am no younger than 5 years of age.
And albatross, I don't care what its called in "football" in soccer its a tie. The point of the matter is that the game was tied, me watching it has no affect on the game, it doesn't matter if your team was playing "poorly" and our team was playing "really hard". The game was a tie, luck plays an important part in any game so I can make any excuse I darn well please.
It was too hot. The american goalie was distracted by some hot chick in the bleachers so that's why englnad scored. The english goalie was drunk so that's why he couldn't grab the ball in time. The american players had shoes that were just a bit too small and hurt their feet so they didn't play as well.
Pick your excuse, the fact is your team couldn't beat our team, they could only tie.
halonachos wrote:Pick your excuse, the fact is your team couldn't beat our team, they could only tie.
That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is by actually looking at it. England played poorly, you could tell because the players looked dejected as they left the pitch. The USA defended excellently and focused on trying to keep England out - the goal was a speculative effort that no-one (not even the americans) expected to go in. They celebrated like they had won the whole competition, when in fact they had put in an enormous effort, shown a lot of heart, and still only managed a draw.
But whatever, you didn't watch the match and you don't know a fething thing about football. You just want to turn it into an England vs America flamewar. You're the only one.
Whatever albatross, you're the one who turned "internet cool guy" mode on.
I was doing something more important than watching two teams kick a ball around for ninety minutes, its called work.
I did hear from a reliable source though that england was playing rugby instead of soccer and were knocking our guys over and even managed to get our goalie in the chest.
And yes, I do know a whole fething lot about "football" I used to do referreing(spelling) for a rec league. Boring as hell.
Oh, and since when is that whole rivalry thing negative? Look at it this way, Britain fathered a lot of countries through colonization way back when. So if you look at this peculiar family tree, the US colonies were the oldest child and got fed up with living under "dad's" roof. So the colonies punched "dad" in the face and left, not wanting to be like "dad" the US put in different policies, yadda,yadda. A few years later, "dad" decides to force his "kid" back into line with a direct blow to the nads. After years of infighting the US decides that it would be cool to still keep in touch with "dad" and maybe get a beer or two when they hang out. However, when "dad" and "son" decide to have a competition the "son" is going to do its best to beat "dad" to show off, and who doesn't feel good when they beat their dad in a competition?
Its in our history to want to beat england, I could care less about anyone being english, by all means be english. However, when it comes to the Olympics and the World Cup I want to see the US beat several countries: England, France, Japan, and Russia. Each has their own reasons, England because of heritage, Japan because of weeaboos, Russia because of the Cold War, and France because everyone hates the french.
Volume at the New York Stock Exchange at 11:30 a.m. ET, as the US-Algeria game was in its 72nd minute — tied at 0-0 — was at 347.6 million shares, 32 percent lower that its 10-day moving average at this hour.
Trading didn’t seriously pick up again until after Landon Donovan scored his goal in stoppage time at approximately 11:49 a.m. ET.
That was also around the same time England's game, which traders also were tuned into, had concluded.
Since the games are often played during market hours, World Cup games — like March Madness games — tend to affect volume. Around the world, the halt of markets can be more extreme.
I work in retail, standing around all day. I'll give you a hint to the kind of work I do right now, 31 cents is a HUGE raise. I don't have a computer readily available so any scores are conveyed through my soccer loving friend via text message.
halonachos wrote:Whatever albatross, you're the one who turned "internet cool guy" mode on.
I was doing something more important than watching two teams kick a ball around for ninety minutes, its called work.
I did hear from a reliable source though that england was playing rugby instead of soccer and were knocking our guys over and even managed to get our goalie in the chest.
And yes, I do know a whole fething lot about "football" I used to do referreing(spelling) for a rec league. Boring as hell.
Oh, and since when is that whole rivalry thing negative? Look at it this way, Britain fathered a lot of countries through colonization way back when. So if you look at this peculiar family tree, the US colonies were the oldest child and got fed up with living under "dad's" roof. So the colonies punched "dad" in the face and left, not wanting to be like "dad" the US put in different policies, yadda,yadda. A few years later, "dad" decides to force his "kid" back into line with a direct blow to the nads. After years of infighting the US decides that it would be cool to still keep in touch with "dad" and maybe get a beer or two when they hang out. However, when "dad" and "son" decide to have a competition the "son" is going to do its best to beat "dad" to show off, and who doesn't feel good when they beat their dad in a competition?
Its in our history to want to beat england, I could care less about anyone being english, by all means be english. However, when it comes to the Olympics and the World Cup I want to see the US beat several countries: England, France, Japan, and Russia. Each has their own reasons, England because of heritage, Japan because of weeaboos, Russia because of the Cold War, and France because everyone hates the french.
Ok.... so let me get this right..
You hate the British because even before your great great great Grandfather was born, and this being 2010, you may well have ancestory that wasnt even American at the time, or if you did they may well have been of British descent anyway...er.. and then "the British" burned a building down during a conflict. So now you, a teenager living in modern USA feel gratified, because the modern USA and England, played a game of soccer, and it was a tie?
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
@halanachos, there's plenty of rivalry between the US and the UK in many things, but in the context of sport, and in particular football, I don't think so. At least not on this side there isn't.
USA vs England is just another game to everyone here. Yes there is a history between us off the football pitch but that doesn't make a sporting rivalry. Englands main rivalrys are Germany and Argentina, those rivalrys are made up of not only two wars but also several major defeats and victories in major competitions. England beat Germany to win in 66, they knocked out arguably the best english team ever in 70, beat us in the semis in 1990 and 96. Again argentina much the same, + they did this to England...
...cheating bastards.
As for the USA vs England. I can't remember the last time they played before last saturday. See my point?
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Actually matty, I managed to reach 20 years. And that building that was burnt down was the White House. My family line traces back to soldiers in the revolutionary war who fought against the british, my grandmother was FOTB irish, etc. It also doesn't help that we are subconciously taught to be different from the british with the side of the road we drive on, lack of widespread teaching of the metric system, the fact we play football with our hands, etc. An american goes to England and think "this is odd" when they drive down the road.
Why does Rivalry have to be about hate? There are plenty of rivals who don't hate each other, they just like trying to beat each other. Now, had I said Arch-Nemesis then I would hate the british. But yes, when we play against england I cheer for the US and I was upset with the tie which is why I want team USA to beat england in the next game they play. If team USA does win, I am planning to call nearly all of England leaving the same message "We won", and I will be calling collect.
*FOTB= Fresh off the boat.
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Your boring me mate... My ancestors are Irish as well, but thats entirely irrelevant and im not seeing the point off this coversation. Im off to collect call the Italians and complain about the Roman empire taking slaves. Good luck with the game today though! :-)
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
For the 40 games shown on the sports network ESPN and ABC, ratings are up 40% on Germany 2006.
ESPN got 6.1 million viewers for the crucial US v Algeria clash, the most-watched football match it had ever shown. Not bad for a game that kicked off at 10am for East Coast viewers and 7am for West Coast viewers.
ESPN also claimed to have gained the largest ever audience for a sports event on the web, with 1.1 million people watching that way
..it's like you're a real country now !
And there are regional variations. Pew found interest was higher in the northeast than the south or Midwest, with those interested more likely to be graduates.
see ? It's a thinking mans' game.
And if football does achieve critical mass in the US, Landon Donovan will be taking some of the credit.
"You can't put a price on that goal," says Mr Keane. "It is a bit like Neil Armstrong on the moon."
hmm.. then again, perhaps not..
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There was some pretty shameless time-wasting by Ghana though at the end :(
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Gwar! wrote:Debate it all you want, I just report what the rules actually say. It's up to others to tie their panties in a Knot. I stopped caring long ago.
That was a great match to watch with plenty of chances each way. With a little luck (or more use of the space on the wings) I think USA could have at least carried it to penalties.
Also Donovan was in my fantasy football team. Bonus!
Gosh darn. Oh well, can't win them all. I looked at the scores for most of the countries playing and saw that France didn't make it to the second round, I was so happy.
I also found out that the US lost to Ghana in the last world cup by 2-1 as well. So matty you won't be getting a collect call anytime soon and good luck calling Italy and learning Italian to insult them.
Soup and a roll wrote:That was a great match to watch with plenty of chances each way. With a little luck (or more use of the space on the wings) I think USA could have at least carried it to penalties.
Indeed. Kudos to the manager as well for the bold early substituition as well, they were all over the place initially but that change stabilised things quickly and got them back into the game. It was a god match to watch, Ghana were hanging on for extra time there at the end, I was almost sure that the septics were going to steal it.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
The USA played well again though, and the teams coming on leaps and bounds.
England will no doubt get smashed by "ze germans" though, so the Americans can have some English speaking company on the Monday flights home.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
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