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Don't forget to check on the base size for me... I'll need that to plan out whatever action I'll be modeling. I want him to be cool.... AND legal!

Sounds sweet

Gitsplitta wrote:Don't forget to check on the base size for me... I'll need that to plan out whatever action I'll be modeling. I want him to be cool.... AND legal!

Well since I don't do tourneys and my buddies are fine with it. Then any base size is fine.

as for my WIP:

I have hollowed out the helm and will take pics soon. Im not sure what battle damage to do to it? hopefully I'll get some time this week.

Well, it'll be a few days before I can start assembling anything. I have an idea for my the MW doing a flying bushido kick, one mantis-arm extended with the kick, the other in the ready position. If I can pull it off on a small base, I will... as this is probably the legal base size for the figure. If I can't however, I'll build it on a 40mm (terminator) base. Everything is just an idea until I start assembling the figure though.

OH, and I watched "Boondock Saints" for the first time because of the photo you posted.... very cool flick. Now added to my DVD collection.

Thanks!

The 2nd one isnt as awsome, but still pretty good.

You really wouldn't want to take your helmet off in a battle situation unless A: your badass or B: because it is useless/damaged C: its uncomfortable or D: to show rank.

Finch Claw wrote:You really wouldn't want to take your helmet off in a battle situation unless A: your badass or B: because it is useless/damaged C: its uncomfortable or D: to show rank.

or unless you're in a movie. Wearing a helmet is the leading cause of death in hollywood. That and not having a name, backstory or relevance to plotlines.

ssREV wrote:

Finch Claw wrote:You really wouldn't want to take your helmet off in a battle situation unless A: your badass or B: because it is useless/damaged C: its uncomfortable or D: to show rank.

or unless you're in a movie. Wearing a helmet is the leading cause of death in hollywood. That and not having a name, backstory or relevance to plotlines.

lol!

I plan on adding damage to the helmet. I'm just not sure by what did the damage. I know i want it on the right side of his face (his right). and I know i want a pretty big chunk missing. I was also thinking of adding a few scratches on his face. The helmet did it job.

You could put a large split down the middle like someone smacked him in the face with a sword but he pulled back or they didn't hit him hard enough and his helmet split leaving him unharmed.

Bio-acid of some kind for the damage, always seems to get a trooper to drop his gear in the movies. ohohoh.....or phosphorous grenade shrapnel with directional lighting effects.

Both totally cool. Keep up the good work both of you following all the threads on this one.

Bio-acid of some kind for the damage, always seems to get a trooper to drop his gear in the movies. ohohoh.....or phosphorous grenade shrapnel with directional lighting effects.

Both totally cool. Keep up the good work both of you following all the threads on this one.

bio acid eh?

I think the schrapnel idea works a bit better. You could then carry on the damage to the armour around the area.
This is a sweet idea and i cant wait to see some of the planning from gitta

send some pics.

its a great idea!

Sorry for taking so long to post pics but I really inly have the weekends to really do anything

Here are Ideas for the hollowed out helmet. Its not painted but it is primed so you probably cant make out the detail. Tell me what you think

Not lightning claws imo. 2nd is best if you don't wan't to model extensive damage to the corsairs face, plasma would wreck it pretty bad

I think the 'Bloter' would be the best option. You could simulate him being targeted by Vengeance Rounds, which would be nice and fluffy too

Mantis Warrior update: I got the legs for the flying bushido kick done today. This was the most critical step as the whole pose hinged on getting the legs right. It was also the trickiest as the legs had to be completely cut apart, filed to shape and reassembled. Still have a bit of green stuff fill to put in, but the scary part is done.

No pics as a storm knocked out our satellite Internet & I have to use my phone to post. Maybe tomorrow.

- GS


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Additional update: Body, head and legs are built and assembled. Will start working on the arms next, though there might be a bit of a delay while I wait for the shoulder pads to come in. I can always paint the rest of the figure while I'm waiting though.

Further update: Found perfect parts to do the arms and "mantis swords" & began the process of dissection and re-positioning... will have less of that to do than I had feared. Should have the build done in a day or two.

wow I better get a move on it! all i have is a head and a helmet

Take your time Styro... I'm just working through the build as I'm inspired to do it. I'm in no hurry... I just made a decision to only do one swap at a time and have other folks who are already working on marines to swap with me... so I need to get yours done before attempting anything else. Don't want you to feel rushed... take your time, have fun with your conversion! Stretch your legs a bit with it... no problemo.

So I was able to find some time and I now have a all the marine pieces I need. I have the head painted. I tried to paint the beard a salt n' pepper look. (I'll get pics as soon as I buy batteries) I have a CSM torso, legs, and backpack. I have two out stretched arms holding bolt pistols. To get the left one I had to use one from the SW sprue. Im not happy with the angle, it might be too far apart. But if he's fighting multiple targets it kinda makes sense.

I tried to do the bolter hole in the helmet, but it didn't turn out. So I made look more like he was attacked by a chainsword. I'll have to build the base before i can paint the helmet so I have an idea how it will be placed.

As for the base Gits wants a 40mm base. There is not much I can add to a 40mm base so I'll have to keep it simple (so no body parts ) I'll probably have a sand bag wall filled with bullet holes and bullet casings and magazines everywhere. I haven't decided if he will be behind it or In front. I think in front would be more like the movie but in stead of cars behind him taking all the bullets it will be the sand bags (why is it that after 40,000 years they're still using sand bags? )

Gits: I'm going to need to know how you do your bases so I can match to the planet your on

I was thinking of a brief story to go with it:

Huron received an intelligence report that a imperialist Mantis Warrior Chapter was paroling near the Maelstrom. He sent a small raiding party to gather information and their technology. He thought it to be wise to send his trusted chosen, fore he is unsure of how deep the remaining Mantis Warrior geneseed in his Corsairs goes.
Unfortunately for his raiding party, they were ambushed and all but wiped out. Brother Il Duce remains and fighting tooth and nail with everything in his arsenal. Not so much to stay alive, but to kill as many of them as possible! Every corpse means another bolter or magazine.
During the last assault Brother Il Duce nearly lost his head by a chainsword. An expertly aimed bolt to the face from his bolt pistol, stopped the advance of the chainsword through his helmet. Feeling the hot blood trickle over his ear and down his cheek through his beard, he decides to remove his helmet. A helmet that prolong his life for the moment.
Knowing his doom is near, he equips any bolter or pistol he can find. He will not have time to reload therefore each weapon added will be seconds to his life. He then leaps over the sand bag bunker that protected him and begins his last stand! ...

Sounds great Styro, love the fluff! Sorry about the small base size, but if you're going to put all this work into it, I want something perfectly legal so I can use it in any tournament without having to get approval from my opponent. 40mm is the standard... HOWEVER.... if you really feel the need to go out to a larger base to meet your artistic vision... go for it! If it's cool enough, I don't think most players would have a problem with it, especially if I place it in a fairly "neutral" position on the board. Just don't go beyond dreadnought base size.

Two options with the base:

1. Take a look at my MW's. they're all done the same way (mixed brown GF-9 gravel flocking, washed with sepia or delvan mud, then tufts of static grass or tiny bits of fall color lichen here or there).

2. Build and paint everything, but don't flock the base, when it get's here, I'll carefully flock the bare parts of the base to match the army.


Come hell or high water I'll have a photo showing my progress by tomorrow.

To be honest, I don't want to part with it.

To solve this problem and the base problem I've decided to make another marker or terrain for myself. It will be the opposite of this one. It will be of the Mantis Warrior with a hole in his head. tee hee hee.

The objective will be to find and rescue Huron trusted Chosen. With Huron's Wolves on the scent it will be only a matter of time to find and capture the objective. Unfortunately they will only find his Chosen dead and Brother Il Duce missing

Oh, I like that.... two part of the whole! Very neat.


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OK, finally got things to the point where I can show my progress.

Meet Benedictus. A member of the vanguard and liaison officer to the Astral Claws during the Badab War. Was corrupted by chaos during that time and fled with the Astral Claws (now Red Corsairs). The final model will have a Chapterhouse pre-herasy jump pack and a chaos shoulder pad on the cybernetic arm (left), and one of my original free-hand mantis warrior pads on the right arm. Depicted in a flying Bushido kick (the right leg is actually bent at a sharp angle to simulate the leap, you just can't see it from this angle).

I wanted him to be a little chaossy but not over the top. He's not a traditional chaos marine, as with the Red Corsairs... having "turned" relatively recently (100 yrs or less). Since the original Mantis Warrior badge had large mandibles, I've included them in the build. I figure things like chainswords would wear out, so I used chaos swords instead of imperial models. He has one cybernetic arm and on that shoulder will be a chaos pad, as if he'd lost an arm in a battle and had to repace it (and the equipment) with what was at hand.

It's a really rough build at this point, but will get more refined in short order.







I'm sorry Styro but I had to put him on a 40mm base (termie sized), tried and just could not make the "leap" plausible on a smaller base.

GS

Wow! that looks pretty awesome! Can't wait to see it finished. Don't worry about the base. I'll make it work. The fluff is pretty cool too! As for one of the shoulder pads could you leave it blank so that i can paint it in my colours, to show his allegiance.

I ended up reading Badab War campaign book and in it states that when the Astral Claw retreated, "Small bands of Executioners, Mantis Warriors, and Lamenters fled with him into exile and together wield a mastery of the Maelstrom’s secret ways that are still unmatched by the Imperium". I'm not sure how accurate it is but they do use alot sources.

It also shows alot of paint schemes for all the chapters involved. I started thinking that if I ever start an army for Apocalypse it will probably be "THE GUARDIANS OF THE MAELSTROM" with the 4 chapters and a squad of guard "Badab PDF". Although I would need alot of $$ and it would probably take me the rest of my life to finish, but it sounds pretty cool.

Progress: I have the model primed and base coated. Going to have to go to LGS to get supplies to start the terrain (and buy batteries for the camera). hopefully I can get started on it this weekend.

Glad you like him... he looks even better with the jump pack on. He's still is a "rough draft"... needs a lot of cleaning up, detailing and such... but I think he'll look very cool when done. Well, at least he's what I was aiming for, so I'm staying true to my vision for what that's worth.

I'd like to do up the base a bit... not the flocking, you'll take care of that so he matches your army... but I think it would be a more convincing action shot if I had him leaping over something... what would be approprtiate? rubble, shrubbery... rock wall... what do you think? I'd say pile of bodies but I don't want to do that much extra painting...

Bring me...... A SHRUBBERY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah, "Rodger the Shrubber" finally pipes up...

Also, you must chop down the tallest tree in the forest WITH A HARING!!!!!!

Well mine are all desert based. So if its a shrub make it a dead one. Is skeletal body an option? Maybe an animal one? Razor wire? Ruins? A banner? Tumbleweed? ...A land raider!? tee hee hee