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As long as Milton Keynes becomes a smoking crater I'll be happy (also maybe Crater Manchester)

You have my pen

Okay guys, anyone wanting to do background, send me a PM and I'll toss you a subject. Try to make a short story's worth apiece, written from one of three perspectives:

A) A story in a newspaper, complete with heading, company (ie. Associated Press, CanWest, Etc...)
B) An on-site reporter doing a story on the given subject
C) A recorded dialogue between higher-up members of whichever faction you're writing about

Most stories at this point won't be taking place in battles. There might be a few battlefield reports based in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, but for the most part we're going to build the story in chronological order. And we'll be starting with the political, social, and economic aspects of the world as it goes down the crapper.

Lord Kaesar II wrote: just seems as though what Einstien sez: WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. IDK what WWIII will be.

Please don't butcher a quote like that, especially when that quote comes from someone who makes all of us combined look like preschoolers....

Hey metallifan, this sounds interesting and as i'm out of work right now i wouldn't mind helping out.
Also I'm a US marine combat vet, seen action in a few major engagements in Iraq. I was a combat photographer and wouldn't mind submitting some of my shots for use for this game, or i could do up some photoshopped stuff using said shots.
I also wouldn't mind taking a fair shot at writing for the game as well.

Slarg232 wrote:

Lord Kaesar II wrote: just seems as though what Einstien sez: WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. IDK what WWIII will be.

Please don't butcher a quote like that, especially when that quote comes from someone who makes all of us combined look like preschoolers....

The correct quote is :
I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth - rocks!- Alber Einstein.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Lord Kaesar II wrote: just seems as though what Einstien sez: WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. IDK what WWIII will be.

Please don't butcher a quote like that, especially when that quote comes from someone who makes all of us combined look like preschoolers....

The correct quote is :
I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth - rocks!- Alber Einstein.

No, it isn't. The correct quote is:

"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Wikipedia lies to me yet again!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_Three

Wikipedia is also user-generated, and that, unfortunately, also means morons are allowed to fill in entries without doing their research.

It's the main reason I avoid it unless I'm looking for info on something fictional. That way if it's wrong, it won't matter anyway

Hey metalfan I would be willing to work on some backstory.

metallifan wrote:Wikipedia is also user-generated, and that, unfortunately, also means morons are allowed to fill in entries without doing their research.

It's the main reason I avoid it unless I'm looking for info on something fictional. That way if it's wrong, it won't matter anyway

I think wikipedia is an excellent source of information, and also a great way for laypeople to learn to check their sources. Since most factual information in books is written by people who studied second- or third-hand accounts, wikipedia's pretty much on the same level - so long as you're the kind of person who doesn't trust something outright just because someone else wrote it down.

I would love to help or somewhat do something towards this, sounds great!.

So its a Skirmish game, Based on squad commanding like Necromunda or more like =I=

The wound system in =I= and the cover system would work nice

some game scenarios I would like to throw out there

Snow fighting
-hard to see distant
-thermal optics see perfect
-

Night fighting
-night vision/thermal has advantage
-hard to see targets with human sight


Nuclear Fallout Fighting
-radiation damage

Naval boarding

Mine fields
-trip mines etc

Urban combat
-more cover

Forest/Jungle

Plains

and it could be combined like snow urban or fallout night fighting plains etc

War gear
-Reflex sights
-Scope x4 x8 etc
-fore grip
-Thermal optics
-Night vision goggles
-Respirator (gas mask)
-Environment suit (GILLIE)
-Flash bang
-Smoke grenades
-Frag
-HE
-C-4
-Claymore
-Air support/Surgical Air strike
-Extra ammo
-Suppressor
-Camouflage
-Kevlar
-Helmet
-Grenade launcher Equip
-Bullet variations (hollow tip, poison etc)
-Laser Target
-Stun grenades
-Binoculars
-Radio operator
-Hazard suit
-Breaching explosives
-Combat knife
-Bayonet
-Machete
-Shovel
-Climbing/Hang gliding Rope/gear
-Knee guards and other armor types
-uav support (drones and radars and missiles)

Vehicles maybe have in categorys
-Heavy Armor (m1a1 and t90s)
-medium Armor (btr, apc)
-light Armour (Humvee, light jeep etc)

Not much i know on how to incorporate Helicopter support

The weapons list can go ON for ever so maybe if there is a way to Simplify the stats of Assault rifles, Heavy MG, LMG, Artillery, SMG, Shotguns, Rifles, and other gear.

hope any of this can help? it does all seem basic so sorry if i am being CAPTAIN OBVIOUS

-Mercenary's limits some of the equiptment/support abilitys but has special characteristics and rules
-Government/nation military basic units/rules/wargear
-special forces (SAS, Rangers, Seals, Spentsnaz, Commandos, Delta force etc) can get bonuses but cost more points

"Sins of our fathers" as a name how bout?

@Physcosamatic - I note the inclusion of tactical air support in your list. Heh... I remember a friend telling me about an old cold war type skirmish game. You could apparently call in an A-10 strike, at which point you were supposed to take a brush and sweep a clear line across the battlefield

Flinty wrote:@Physcosamatic - I note the inclusion of tactical air support in your list. Heh... I remember a friend telling me about an old cold war type skirmish game. You could apparently call in an A-10 strike, at which point you were supposed to take a brush and sweep a clear line across the battlefield

As not all air strikes are perfect and the scale of the miniatures all air support would be danger close, so a random scatter can do some fun!

As a possible game mechanic that would streamline air support, perhaps it would be best to have it limited by tactical doctrine? Instead of having proper stats for various airborne vehicles, simply have them 'off board' permanently, but require the squads in-game to fulfil certain criteria to use their effects.

For example, to get a chopper to pick you up, you must find or clear an area of the battlefield so no enemy units have LoS to it, then get all your models there, and summon the chopper by a reserve roll to get away. To use an airstrike, you must get a communication system with operator into LoS of the target, with none of your units danger-close, then pass a skill check for the operator. Perhaps anti-aircraft systems would simply require a skill check and clear LoS to all horizons to interdict an incoming air mission, forcing it to abort, etc.

I could help write rules for this, I've done that sorta stuff before with my friends, but first I'd need to know how the game system is going to work.

PM me if you're interested.

oh man this sounds awesome! I'm willing help you guys write fluff.

I'm not even sure what's done on the fluff really - all the people that volunteered to write fluff have yet to send me anything back on the topics I gave them

I've got a short writeup from GES, but other than that I don't know where our writers are so far

Still, send me a PM and I'll give you some subject material, and hopefully you'll send me some finished product back

metallifan wrote:I'm not even sure what's done on the fluff really - all the people that volunteered to write fluff have yet to send me anything back on the topics I gave them

I've got a short writeup from GES, but other than that I don't know where our writers are so far

Still, send me a PM and I'll give you some subject material, and hopefully you'll send me some finished product back

Sure thing.

EDIT: Question: will there be a "commonwealth" faction eg Canada, UK, New Zealand, India and Australia?

That's represented by NATO as far as Canada and Western Europe go. "Oceanic Nations" comprise NZ, AUS, and TAZ
,
The factions only regulate available equipment. You can still play any nation you wish.

I always thought this was a cool military game-name I made up a while ago.

''Killitary''.

EDIT:

I originally spelt it ''kilitary''

Oh god I may have to make that an official nickname

Wow. You almost owed me a new keyboard. Once coffee gets in there, it doesn't come out y'know

Heh heh, my friends all say I'm good at making names, so no problem. I always wanted to do something with the name, but I am glad it is going to be used in something other than myself

Gentlemen, you have my services. Backstory, scenarios, playtesting, pretty much anything along those lines is within my abilities.

I can do proof-reading and maby some story writing if you want

this sounds so cool though, when I read your first post This poped into my head. but on a smaller scale

I would gladly thrown in for backstory and play testing...Just let me know what you need done.

Yeah just send me a message.

Some good news guys - Got my order from Squadron in yesterday. Assembled two riflemen already. I'll take some pictures when I get home. They're REALLY nice sculpts. The Tac Vests on these guys come bare, and there're seperate pouch sprues so you can customize them any way you want. Weapon sprues come with some really cool mods too - Tac-Grips, ACOG Scopes, IR Markers, and M203 GL's to name some off the top of me' noggin.

Consider yourself lucky Metalli--turns out the G36Cs? Their stock actually comes separate from the main body of the gun