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purplefood wrote:@Commander Endova The Arbites are more of a military polce in that they are like a military formation being a police force so they fight las well as if no better than guardsmen

Well, i'm not sure about that. The Arbites are pretty nails taking down serious criminals, dangerous underhive gangs etc. I cannot remember the book but they are quite a bit better than IG and are mentioned in BL Books occasionally. They are small in number but well armed and very disciplined, if they produced a Codex i would definitely collect them, Carapace Armour Bolters/Shotguns/Heavy stubbers/Flamers/Grenade launchers/Riot shields and power mauls + Rhino's etc with allies (Assassins + PSykers etc) they could be really competitive! I still have a 5 man team somewhere the old 94-95 era Shotgun armed mini's i might dig them out !

My three have been mentioned already. I chose them based on their prevalence in the fluff and GW's level of neglect:

1. Adeptus Mechanicus - Would be so cool to have. All the fluff is there, just make the army already!
2. DeathWatch - Also cool, and they're they only major arm of the Inquisition that has been neglected.
3. Adeptus Arbites - I'm not so sad they're ignored by GW, I want to play soldier, not cops and robbers. (I know they're more than that.)

However, if you intended to ask about the armies that are the most forgotten fluff wise, those would be:

1. Oh, uh, I've forgotten.

So you're saying Red Redemptionists and born-again Hive Gangers aren't civilians?


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By the way, Arbites are represented in tabletop by Inquisitorial Stormtroopers with shotguns.

vignor wrote:

shakomatic wrote:departmento munitorium militia's are locals conscripted for the guard from local populations to do gakky jobs that a trained soldier who could be killing baddies doent want to do(ie haul away bodies from the battlefeid and strip them of useful supplies as in the novel rebel winter) also if a pdf is in shambles when the ig gets their they may be turned into gak shovelers(militia)

Commander Endova wrote:I think the Adeptus Custodes are largely ignored. They have almost nothing in the way of models (a few for Necromunda, I beleive?) and a single book. I'm not saying this a is a bad thing, mind you.

the reason you never see costodus is because they are few and far between. They are all on earth and almost never leave being the bodyguards of the emporer, they almost never leave his side which is allways on earth. the only time one would leave would be at say the spearhead of a crusade leading it if somehow the god emporer himself appeared to them with some gawd awwful holy quest to do something crazy and convoluted....other then that they never leave earth.

Thats not rebel winter thats fifteen hours your thinking of

oh yeah that was fifteen hour ^_^ my bad I read em back to back so i sometimes mix em up

mwnciboo wrote:1. Squats
2. Demiurg
3. Deathwatch (they need an Ordos Xenos Codex!)
4. Custodes (Amazing they are Uber Bad Ass Space Marines on Steroids!)

costodus are as much space marines as the inquisition is (not grey knights) costodus are just normal guys in power armour I mean hell they are all earthborn

Fiend wrote:

1. Adeptus Mechanicus - Would be so cool to have. All the fluff is there, just make the army already!

the only thing that the mechanium has is storm troopers from their sister worlds (like vostroya) uses to guard their ships and forgeworlds

as we all know spec ops does not make an army

sides th whole reason admech were invented swas to explin how a bunch of hicks cuold fly accross the universe with advanced technology they barely understand....admech is good as a supplementary force

Most forgotten army of the Imperium? Wait ... erm ... give me a minute ... erm ... sorry, can't remember the name

mwnciboo wrote:3. Deathwatch (they need an Ordos Xenos Codex!)

Agreed!

Melissia wrote:So you're saying Red Redemptionists and born-again Hive Gangers aren't civilians?

No, not in the sense that the Frateris Militia were. Gangers have combat experience that green recruits would normally lack.

shakomatic wrote:the only thing that the mechanium has is storm troopers from their sister worlds (like vostroya) uses to guard their ships and forgeworlds

Not true. The Adeptus Mechanicus has a variety of troops of their own: Guardsman/Storm Trooper analogues, Electro-priests, servitors of various types, and more than their fair share of war machines and artillery.

Indeed, the Skitarii are quite different from Guard.

The space marines
The imperial Guard
The mechanicum...

Oh, you said the least? That's hard to say. Maybe the custodians? Those elite bodyguards of the emperor when he was alive..

I don't think you read that right, samus... "most forgotten" indicates whichever army is least remembered. "Least forgotten" would therefor be Space Marines.

I realize that now

AlexHolker wrote:

shakomatic wrote:the only thing that the mechanium has is storm troopers from their sister worlds (like vostroya) uses to guard their ships and forgeworlds

Not true. The Adeptus Mechanicus has a variety of troops of their own: Guardsman/Storm Trooper analogues, Electro-priests, servitors of various types, and more than their fair share of war machines and artillery.

In addition, there are the Knights, the Praetorians, the Skitarii, (which you and Melissa noted) and the various types of tech-priests which would make for a full and diverse force. Most Magi have their own own personal army, larger than most SM chapters!

shakomatic wrote:


costodus are as much space marines as the inquisition is (not grey knights) costodus are just normal guys in power armour I mean hell they are all earthborn

Err, no of course not. A custodes would destroy any normal space marine one-on-one, hell maybe even an entire combat squad on a good day. They are not 'normal guys,' they're ultra-superhuman soldiers patterned directly from the Emperor's own DNA, as opposed to regular marines who received their enhancements second-hand from the Primarchs.

Which is why I find it silly they haven't left the Golden Throneroom in 10,000 years, but that's another discussion.

shakomatic wrote:What do you think are the 3 most forgotten sects of the imperium that nevver get attention

1: deathwatch
2: deparmento munitorium militias
3: Iron hands

Really?

I would probably go with the
Adeptus Astra Telepathica
Adeptus Astronomica
Administratum.

Well, not really, I'm sure you could find much more "forgotten sects" that are much more obscure, like sects devoted to particular Imperial Saints from the original source material from White Dwarf on the Sisters of Battle (Saint Lacena, Saint Kozak, Saint Orlanda, etc.)

I mean, by "most forgotten sects of the Imperium" you don't seem to mean actual Imperial sects which are largely forgotten, but "Imperial models that GW made but no longer supplies rules to use in the game, that most people have forgotten about". Then, I guess I would say:

Imperial Guard Beastmen
Imperial Robots
Rogue Traders

All of those have had specifically labelled miniatures from GW at one point, but the first two are almost never mentioned any longer. The third is mentioned in quite a bit of the background, but all three are almost never mentioned by players as "something to field in a game". Thus, I think they qualify well as forgotten.

I'm not sure I would even want to field an Imperial Beastman or Imperial Robot unit in a game, but it would be cool to have some Rogue Trader models released for the Collector's Range. They would make nice Objective models, and I can think of cool ways you could actually use them in an Inquisitorial Codex to let you use special rules (like Master of Ordnance, etc. for Imperial Guard).

Samus_aran115 wrote:The space marines
The imperial Guard
The mechanicum...

Oh, you said the least? That's hard to say. Maybe the custodians? Those elite bodyguards of the emperor when he was alive..

what do you mean "was" alive?

Imperial robots and tinboyz,are forgotten relics of rouge trader
and so are force field generating grot bots would be amazing to return....there so many cool things from rouge trader era that are just ridiculous great.

Comintern wrote:50 - 75% of all Ultramarine Successor Chapters.

and Preatorians!!!!!

Praetorian Imperial Guard indeed!

For the Emprahhh!

Got a slowly building collection of them myself heh.

A Skitarii army list would be pretty damn cool

1. Adeptus Mechanicus
2. Penal Leagions
3. sisters of battle

In my area at least, Dark Eldar. Do they still exist? I've NEVER seen anyone play them

Brotherjulian wrote: In my area at least, Dark Eldar. Do they still exist? I've NEVER seen anyone play them

Ah yes, the Dark Eldar. Often thought to just be filthy xenos, but actually under the control of the Ord=[CENSORED BY THE INQUISITION]=

Hold on......

@Da Butcher

Adeptus Astra Telepathica
Adeptus Astronomica
Administratum.

Seriously Administratum?????!!!!! What will they do bean count them to death? Show them Imperial Powerpoint presentations till their eyes bleed? Stab them to death with their pen quills? Talk them to death? ("I bet your going to dig out some reference to the RT years when they had some uber gestapo administration unit just to rub my face in the gakk aren't you ))

Of those, only the Adeptus Astra Telepathica actually has a proper army (or had, anyway, noone knows if the Sisters of Silence survived past the Horus Heresy).

IMO the mechanicum don't get alot of spotlight in terms of the table top, but I guess they do get more attention in novels and stuff.

What no mention of the old beast man regiments/

Mattieau wrote:

Shas'O Dorian wrote:Vitrian Dragoons

My favorite IG regiment.

Aren't they the guys that were real gaks to the Tanith first in one of the books in the saint saga?

In the Saint that was the Royal Volpone "Bluebloods"

In The Founding it was the Jantine Patricians.

Vitrian Dragoons were the ones who backed up the Ghosts and wiped out elements of the Patricians when they sought to wipe out the Ghosts.

Harakoni Warharks. The only picture of them in the 4th Guard Codex showed them as super-elite Stormie-esque Drop Troops.

The most forgotten army of the imperium is... umm...

Oh, what were those guys called?

I would side with Adeptus Mechanicus. The Background for them has already given rough outlines of possible troops choices for such a force. Like Skitarii, Heavy servitors, Some other variant of arco flagellants. And tech guard in general. I know vostroyans have their connections but they are Imperial guardsmen before all else. Not purely mechanicum.

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