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That's it. Your going on the boat with us. Were going to do "Manly" things to you on that longboat. *wink*

Only a filthy cat lover would sink to such depravity!

Holding such attitudes, this is the closest you will come to fulfilling your destiny:



shudder

You know nothing of my Norse ways! Kakarot.

Wolves however are cool. BUT THEY ARE NOT DOGS SO THEREFOR

I dunno.

I loved that game...but I am an achievment whore who finished the CSI game for the easy points!

Sure they are. All dogs come from Canis lupus.

Shadowbrand, Shadowbrand, tsk tsk. Are you going to pillage or be pillaged?

Well Freyas knockers. I'm the viking so i'm obviously doing the pillaging and for your crimes against the feline race. I punish you by forcing you to stick Dark Eldar models in your nose.

This thread is now about RAPE AND PILLAGE!

Well, that's lighter than cat drowing...oh, sorry, dog drowning, so hard to stay on topic when there are cats to take swimming!

My cat clawed my nipples the last time I gave him a bath. I wish I was lying.

Manchu wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:At the SPCA in Kamloops they had some 200 cats.

When I first read this, I found it hard to believe that there was indeed a place called "Kamloops." I mean, come on, "Kamloops"? Sounds like a dodgy, generic-brand breakfast cereal. But it's true. Wikipedia says almost ninety thousand people live there.

Kamloops never heard of it must be some sort of "hick" town.

Shadowbrand wrote:Well Freyas knockers.

That's a pretty good swear, I'll hand it to you. But try this one:

By the Fenris-chomped fapping hand of Tyr!

Well by Slannesh's 3rd : You curse like a sailor.

Kanookfight!!!

PG is fething terrible no really it is. I won't even lie.

In Kamloops the grass is greener and the girls wear less clothing it's magical.

Ooh, Chaos-themed oaths!

"Nurgle's rotting nutsack, that should've hurt more!" -- overheard amid Plague Marines sitting on an objective in late-game

This thread is going down quicker then a choir boy in a Catholic Church.

Anything to stave off the peta-rage.

I think I'm in the mood for some spit roasted baby.

Remember that when they throw cat blood on you!


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Oops, I mean cat paint?

^
That post gave me HIV. D:

Stupid Grandma Syndrome.

I'm originally from Bosnia, and AFAIK Bugojno was bombed to rubble by Serbian artillery, just like most Bosnian cities.

Connection?

What a waste of delicious puppy meat. I would have cooked the little buggers and feasted like a king

Well dog gone.

I hope in later life she is horribly disfigured by a dog attack.

Or just dies painfully.

You are right that bosnian farmers may not have many options, but I am pretty sure they have clubs or axes, or the ability to snap a tiny neck.

Again, I'd reserve judgement until you have more experience with the matter. My dad related a story wherein he came across a cat that had been mauled by something (dog, raccoon whatever). It was laying there with its guts hanging a yard out if it, and was, quite simply, not going to make it. So, he ran and found the first thing he could put his hands to (a 2x4) came back, and smashed the cat's head. Only, that just made the cat start screaming pitifully. So he started to freak out with guilt and he's smashing, and the cat's screaming, and it goes on far too long, and it left an impression on him.

So, why do I tell this cheerful story? Because, AGAIN, think about being in the girl's shoes. If somebody says "kill this animal" and you REALLY have to do it, what are you going to do? Chop its head off, so puppy blood is all over the place, and then you pick up its little puppy head, and it's little puppy body, and put them in a bucket, and then go dig a hole, and put them all in there and then bury it?

Think about ACTUALLY doing that, as opposed to vaguely suggesting it on an internet forum. Still gonna do it?

Seriously?

No. You go chuck it in a river, and try not to think about it. And if you happen to laugh while you're doing it, you can hope that there's a definition of "coping mechanism" in your Bosnian dictionary, because probably there isn't.

Every so often I have to deal with mice in my house. In most cases, the traps that work the best are the glue traps. They can defeat most of the mechanical ones easily. It's the glue traps that get them. So you've got a mouse, alive, on a glue trap, that's going to die. I've done various things to kill them, but in the end, the one that seems the least horrible to me, is to just stick them in a bucket of water. Obviously they don't like it, but they didn't like any of the other things I tried to kill them either.

It depends on how you grow up, I guess. Where I grew up in the country, it was not uncommon to drown unwanted puppies and kittens. The animals could not be properly cared for in a farm enviornment where they could end up going feral run into the woods, and bring deseases back to the other animals or people. Owners are busy enough 12-18+ hours a day running the farm.
Dogs running wild could be especially bad as anyone who's seen deer or livestock run down and ripped apart by even "tame dogs " can tell you.



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Phryxis wrote:

You are right that bosnian farmers may not have many options, but I am pretty sure they have clubs or axes, or the ability to snap a tiny neck.

Again, I'd reserve judgement until you have more experience with the matter. My dad related a story wherein he came across a cat that had been mauled by something (dog, raccoon whatever). It was laying there with its guts hanging a yard out if it, and was, quite simply, not going to make it. So, he ran and found the first thing he could put his hands to (a 2x4) came back, and smashed the cat's head. Only, that just made the cat start screaming pitifully. So he started to freak out with guilt and he's smashing, and the cat's screaming, and it goes on far too long, and it left an impression on him.

So, why do I tell this cheerful story? Because, AGAIN, think about being in the girl's shoes. If somebody says "kill this animal" and you REALLY have to do it, what are you going to do? Chop its head off, so puppy blood is all over the place, and then you pick up its little puppy head, and it's little puppy body, and put them in a bucket, and then go dig a hole, and put them all in there and then bury it?

I could tell a similar story, but you caught the feeling perfectly.


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dogma wrote:

Ifalna wrote:Tossing them in a river to die in agony and terror is at the other end of the spectrum, which is the issue.

How old was the girl in question? It takes quite a bit of jading to willingly chop the head off of something; whereas a quick toss into the river nicely isolates one from the gory reality of the matter.

Good point there. I'd take it a step further and ask how many people outraged by the video are meat eaters. Of those meat eaters how many give a thought to what the animal they are eating went through on it's way to their plate? Not just the slaughter house part, but the whole feeder lot existence, castration, dehorning, etc. I used to do this when I lived on a farm and it can get pretty brutal to those who don't grow up around it.

Phryxis wrote:

You are right that bosnian farmers may not have many options, but I am pretty sure they have clubs or axes, or the ability to snap a tiny neck.

Again, I'd reserve judgement until you have more experience with the matter. My dad related a story wherein he came across a cat that had been mauled by something (dog, raccoon whatever). It was laying there with its guts hanging a yard out if it, and was, quite simply, not going to make it. So, he ran and found the first thing he could put his hands to (a 2x4) came back, and smashed the cat's head. Only, that just made the cat start screaming pitifully. So he started to freak out with guilt and he's smashing, and the cat's screaming, and it goes on far too long, and it left an impression on him.

So, why do I tell this cheerful story? Because, AGAIN, think about being in the girl's shoes. If somebody says "kill this animal" and you REALLY have to do it, what are you going to do? Chop its head off, so puppy blood is all over the place, and then you pick up its little puppy head, and it's little puppy body, and put them in a bucket, and then go dig a hole, and put them all in there and then bury it?

Think about ACTUALLY doing that, as opposed to vaguely suggesting it on an internet forum. Still gonna do it?

Seriously?

No. You go chuck it in a river, and try not to think about it. And if you happen to laugh while you're doing it, you can hope that there's a definition of "coping mechanism" in your Bosnian dictionary, because probably there isn't.

Every so often I have to deal with mice in my house. In most cases, the traps that work the best are the glue traps. They can defeat most of the mechanical ones easily. It's the glue traps that get them. So you've got a mouse, alive, on a glue trap, that's going to die. I've done various things to kill them, but in the end, the one that seems the least horrible to me, is to just stick them in a bucket of water. Obviously they don't like it, but they didn't like any of the other things I tried to kill them either.

I agree with everything you say. I too have had occasion to put animals out of their misery. You do it the way that seems best.

The creepy thing is, why would the girl get a friend to film her throwing the puppies in a river, and post it on YouTube?

Manchu wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:At the SPCA in Kamloops they had some 200 cats.

When I first read this, I found it hard to believe that there was indeed a place called "Kamloops." I mean, come on, "Kamloops"? Sounds like a dodgy, generic-brand breakfast cereal. But it's true. Wikipedia says almost ninety thousand people live there.

It's from the native name for the place - "T'Kemlups", which translates into "Hot freaking desert with craptastic windstorms. Seriously, this really sucks the big one, why did we settle here?"

There's a local joke here that when the pride week thing comes about, instead of saying "Kamloops" people refer to it as a certain brand of cereal with a Toucan mascot

Sure, it's slightly cruel, but it's also quite genius

And it is not -nearly- the worst name in Canada. Not nearly as bad as "Dildo" in Newfoundland. Seriously. Look it up. I kid you not, good sir. Such a hamlet doth exist!

Phryxis wrote:

You are right that bosnian farmers may not have many options, but I am pretty sure they have clubs or axes, or the ability to snap a tiny neck.

Again, I'd reserve judgement until you have more experience with the matter.

I actually have plenty of experience in the matter, which is why I was saying " not having the resources" to kill pups humanely was a rather odd excuse to give poor farmers for drowning them as a generic act, not this particular young girl.

I actually brought up your point in my first post by saying

or pity for a kid put in a situation they didint know how to resolve by an adult who should know better.

Kilkrazy wrote:
The creepy thing is, why would the girl get a friend to film her throwing the puppies in a river, and post it on YouTube?

That was my thought as well.

I think its perfectly reasonable to suppose that the people involved with the video are not well adjusted in the sense that we privileged folk think if the concept. Eastern Europe is not a nice place, and there is not doubt in my mind that people from that part of the world will tend towards explicit gallows humor in the same way that soldiers and exterminators do. As Phryxis alluded to, coping mechanisms are part and parcel to difficult situations.

pity for a kid put in a situation they didint know how to resolve by an adult who should know better.

I'm not really sure how to understand what you're saying.

Drowning seems to actually be a very popular choice for disposing of unwanted/sick/dying animals, particularly in farm communities. If the adult had given explicit direction to the girl, I would think that "drown them" would be exactly what was suggested.

You seem to think that beheading them or snapping their necks is more humane... I think it's probably true, I'd rather be swiftly decapitated than drowned... But my earlier point is that both of these things are pretty "up close and personal" ways to do things...

To chop something's head off involves blood, and then picking the thing's parts up and disposing of them. It also probably involves the occasional botched execution where you chop off half the puppy's face, and then it's screaming and flopping around, and you're making the decision to NEVER do it this way again.

Even snapping its neck involves holding the little guy in your hand, feeling yourself kill it, and then it goes still. AGAIN, not something that people will opt for, most of the time.

So, I'm really not clear what your argument is. I guess you're saying that if it were you, you'd think of the animal, and take an axe to it? I guess I can see the logic, but here in the real world, people just chuck them in the water and try not to think about it.

That's really all I'm saying. If you're a person on a farm, and you've got a bunch of animals that need to be euthanized, a vast majority of the time, people seem to choose drowning. Given that reality, this video isn't especially shocking.

people from that part of the world will tend towards explicit gallows humor in the same way that soldiers and exterminators do

Pretty much anybody will do this. I mean, as I mentioned earlier, I've had to drown a few mice in my day, and I've found myself doing little "oh, noooooooo" voices, even as I felt sorta nauseous about having to drown the guy. It's just something to distract you from feeling things you don't want to feel. And, honestly, it's a friggin mouse. You shouldn't really feel that bad for it anyway. The fact that I have to come up with coping mechanisms in order to get through drowning a mouse is more of a commentary on oversensitivity than to a lack of it.