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Shut up (i'm not good at spelling)

Blood Raven 5th Company wrote:after painting a vast majority of my space marines to blood raven colours i realized i want to make my own chapter (im sick of re-painting the same men) so i came to the idear that it is the fifth company (who it clearly states disappears into the warp) however i had an idear that they just went rouge and that they took over a imperial settlement and were never heard of again


my question is can i do that? (i know that fluff can annoy a whole load of peps)

If your original problem was having a painting scheme you may have found boring and\or repetitive, try doing a crusade force, like what I'm. doing, except less chaos-y. That way, you have multiple themes within a force, but only one army. (I'll be posting pics soon)

Blood Raven 5th Company wrote:Sorry i came off in the wrong way...
1) there are still 3 books so don't say there isn't
2)3) sorry i didn't realize
4) democracy can never be true, if you say every one has to vote, its not what every body wants. if you say nobody has to vote you don't get every ones view.

with the psyker idea maby i could have the head librarians and then a small group of librarians to assist with all the things they do. (however burning stuff is fun, no don't burn allys)

Noone needs to say sorry about anything here. Were from different countries with slightly diverse culture, behaviour and form of education. We are just trying to communicate. I started crappy 1) - 4) agenda and I will finally let it go.

I never said books do not exist...if you want, then quote sentence where do you think I did it. Democracy is not about "voting", it is about freedom to choose and act. If you choose to not vote, it matters not if it was from ignorance or your own personal decision. And basic form of democracy - which you do not call true (think of your own name for regime, 1st democracy worked like this), was introducing form of rights and responsobilities for moderate amount of people, which was replaced by tyranny in times of war. You also need to be a citizen to vote, and citizenship worked differently in these days, you could even loose it fairly easily. Democracy is the dictatorship of majority, nowadays we DONT have democracy...because in some countries it rather looks like dictatorship of minority. For majority to prosper and minority to adapt - is the true democracy , not conversely. Btw most countries contribute on democracy with investment in form of actual payment to political parties for every abandoded vote, divided amongst the others. But this is becoming more and more off-topic, we both understand democracy "differently", so lets part ways at this point.

But to contribute your vision to your chapter, may I suggest this change : Librarians tend to work like keepers of the chapters secrets, for actual blood ravens renegades, their most powerfull weapon is the truth. They might try to remake their chapter with vision of no dirty secrets, free of corruption and pure in the eyes of the Emperor (and the inquisition).

@ undivided. Good idea however i don't know if you would be able to enter that in a tournament. the problem was that i have painted my army many times and have nearly all of them 1 colour scheme, however i am very intrigued by your idea and would like to see photos
@jolrael. i actually like the numbered agenda and just used it on my reply to show you which one i was talking to. i see democracy as every one has a say in how and what happens in there area... you may not share this approach to it... fair enough
back on subject, i like your idear about truth and i am going to use it (if you dont mind?)

Bring it on battle brother. Ill call dibs on author craft later .

They're all Thousand Sons at the end of the day anyway

Pilau Rice wrote:They're all Thousand Sons at the end of the day anyway

That can't be proven yet

undivided wrote:

Pilau Rice wrote:They're all Thousand Sons at the end of the day anyway

That can't be proven yet

How true... yet

necrongod wrote:IMO, all this DOW fluff is nothing but

It's in the codex now so CRAI SOME MOAR! :>

This was a .pdf file downloadable from GWs old site which you might find useful.

Why not give them black and red armour or red and dark gray , using symbols that show there betrayel and if your doing that lost group of blood ravens make some mutated by mabay using the chaos mutation pack or why not make them look like they scavenge Chaos space marine and other rengades armour.

Yet again no mutations just a renegade.

I changed my mind I like one of the chaos gods now

Which one?

Tzeentch


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Oops changed my mind again. but also have an idea for more background... the reason they have split off from the blood ravens (other than the truth) is that they think the alien races arnt that bad (well most of em) and then i can make my tau's rouge as well and they can be allys. So what do you think?

Blood Raven 5th Company wrote:tau's rouge

I thought Tau were blue

Lol they are greyish- green

Seems fine , one of there commanders has a link with Eldar. I can see Tau and Ravens fighting togthere.

Well this whole site is pretty much here for fan fiction like this so why not it sounds good to me but is this rogue company good or bad?

Neither they just want to stay alive and protect their enclave. tau rebels will live in the same system... do you think i could have my captin bonded to a commander or a tau in marine armour?

Both relised they have to ally to survive.

I dont see them trusting enough to give them battlesuits ( you only get them after a great honour) however smaller things like teaming together i can see.

I was thinking in about 10yrs after they first ally and the space marines using 5 or so tau and training them from child hood and same with the tau but with humans.

necrongod wrote:IMO, all this DOW fluff is nothing but

Agree

Necanor wrote:

necrongod wrote:IMO, all this DOW fluff is nothing but

Agree

you are wrong (well dark crusade and soul storm where a little bit dodgy) however Dow and winter assault had great story to them and so did Dow2. and the books only continued on the story.
(one of the reasons im making my renegade marines is because blood ravens are just THQ's chapter)

Plus it was moderated heavily by GW on the story. So if it was just bs they wouldn't of had GW jump down their back so much.

Exactly

I don't consider the books canon to the DoW story. Or canon at all.

But then I prefer not to associate the awesome DoW fluff with C.S.Goto.

The books are a continuation of the story (well i didn't read the first thinking it was just the video game in a book) but the second two are good. and if i am going to make my marines renegade ravens i have to use all of the fluff of the ravens.

Ma55ter_fett wrote:According to the video games(dow 2 chaos rising), the chapter master has gone nuts (over to chaos) causing a civil war in the chapter.

I could see a rogue blood raven company fitting quite well into the current fluff.

You may want to read up on the video games to get the details.

i know the story of dow 1, winter assult doesnt have much to do with the ravens, DC and SS dont count and DOW2 is updating (Damn Steam)