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imperialknight2112 wrote:I'm going to keep yarrick for the simply reason that i put him with a troop choice on my objective and then when the squad is wiped out by his power squad and he dies he contests the objective when he gets up almost making sure I never loss my base objective, because its doubtful im getting it back.

It isn't doubtful at all if you build a good list, which includes dropping him.

He's incredibly overpriced.

Yeah Yarrick is taken because he is cool and you just really want to take him. Another option to take out a raider are stormtroopers. 5 Deepstriking stormtroopers with 2 meltaguns are about 105 points. With the abilty to re-roll the scatter then are a great melticide squad. They are a tad better then Vet Squads at this due to having a built in delievery system. Long Range Target Saturation should take care of his long fangs, either some HWS's or A russ of some sort. Take Creed and outflank a Bane Wolf, I only did it once, not super effective, but my oppenent was sweating bullets.

Just so you know, there is now a thread on the army list forum to further critique the list.

ImperialKnight... you came to Dakka for help, and so far it doesn't sound like your taking anyone's advice. If you want to beat your friend then stop making excuses and start taking notes.

*Yarrick is way too over priced for a 1500 point game.
-I could have one Yarrick or one more Melta Vet squad with Chimera, and sergent with Plasma Pistol, and still have points left over... um bye-bye Comrade

*Command Squad w/ 4 Melta and Chimera 145 points and that's it, NO EXTRAS EXCEPT FOR:
-Maybe take an Astropath to help the reserves come in.
-add a Plasma Pistol to the Commander

*Leman Russ Tanks are good at taking out infantry only!!!!
-Drop the Vanquisher, and put in 3 Hyrda Flak Tanks (Saves you 10 points).
-Hyrdas are your anti-Rhino, anti-Drop Pod, anti-dred option for slowing down his army (and they work pretty well against LF's btw).

*You need Vendetta's. If you read any of the forums they are one of the best of IG's anti-tank/Terminator options
-Outflank to get side/rear armor shots
-load them up with troops to take objectives at the last second
-At that points cost you can field 2-3 easily

*Executioner
-If you're going to use one, give it Plasma Sponsons and give it one job..... Kill FOOT SLOGGERS!!!!
- 4/5 Plasma Cannon blasts per turn hurts anything that walks

And about your troop choices.... dude...

IG troop choice 101
Veterens with 3 Melta's and Chimera.... 155 points (yes 155, NO EXTRAS!!!, only thing you should consider taking with this basic build would be a sergent w/ plasma). Buy about 3-5 of them and turn your build from pooper, to super.

Eventually you can start playing around with Platoon kitting to create the right synergy, but as for now... you should stay away from it.

I think i will get rid of Yarrick he is mostly fun and yes a waste of points. Also i have given the executioner plasma sponsons.


The infantry i think i will scrap special weapons and just take heavy weapons, because by the time I use them there to close for them to matter.

Also I've already thought of what to replace the vanquisher with: two Leman Russes to to add more ordance and to take out rhinos



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and also for infantry i'm going to put vets with melta in a chimera or Valkyrie

Have you ever considered takine as many guardmen as possible and just rush them across the board?