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worst model GW has ever produced it worst model

Why are people so hung up on the wings?

This isn't a fighter jet or a high altitude bomber.

This is a gunship.

It'll operate in the same role as an Apache does today.

InB4 "Apaches have too small wings for lift!"

The tail and body look nothing like any part a a Thawk...
I know because I finished building one a couple months back.

It does look like it has several parts cribed from other GW and FW models

Wings =Valk
Under wing missiles = new Ironclad dread shoulder missiles
Engines= familiar but can't place
Turret= resemblance to FW Marauder Bomber one but not the same....

For me it just looks a bit too small for every thing it has the rules to carry...

It's ugly as sin, but I really dig it. Love the turret. I think it'll look better with a Dreadnought in place.

I'm gonna call it the Chunderhawk!

Nope, I already set out Chibi-hawk

It reminds me of the old landraider, in the worst ways. I realize a Dreadnought needs to be able to stand under its rear and all but its way too tall with that hunchback intake and turret. They really should have kept that a razorback styled turret.

Not at all what I expected. Still dig it though.

Wonder how that turret would look on a Razorback.

Actually if you think Ork it makes perfect sense; looks front heavy, it'll never fly and its painted red. Its an Ork plane on secondment to the Blood Angels! On second thoughts it reminds me of a puffer fish.

Therion wrote:

BrassScorpion wrote:

Aerodynamics are heresy.

Hilarious. I enjoyed that.

In a game with a galaxy spanning empire, magic weapons, daemons and altered humans that can spit acid, it amazes me what some fellow enthusiasts consider too implausible to be fun.

Magical weapons, daemons, or galaxy spanning empires haven't been encountered in real life. Space shuttles and aeroplanes however have. If GW designs a daemon that looks like Popey the Sailor Man I don't have any evidence to call it unrealistic or even lame, just a strange concept that my imagination finds hard to believe even on an imaginary world. If GW makes a plane that supposedly can "jink effortlessly through the interceptor fire and maneouvre at full speed through the cluttered spires of a hive city" but makes it look like a hundred ton brick with two steel plates glued on the sides of it, I can provide real world evidence about the stupidity of the concept. It amazes me that you can't see the difference. Your fellow enthusiasts can.

Agreed.

There's a difference between "realism" and "believability".

Daemons, psychics, space alien elves, and a god-emperor aren't very realistic. However, so long as things are self-consistent, they're believable.

Eldar stuff does what it does because they're high-tect-elf-magics-tech. That's okay, we believe that.
Ork stuff does what it does because the Waaagh powers them. That's okay, we believe that.
Daemons are crazy and do weird stuff because they're from a parallel dimension. That's okay, we believe that.
Space Marines spit acid, weild magic, eat metal, and compose 95% of all conflicts in the galaxy because they're bioengineered that way. That's okay, we believe that.

However, the Imperial Tech is based on normal dry technology. There's no explanation as to why the thing that looks like a brick should fly. We're not given any explanation. It's not realistic, but then again nothing in the 40k fluff is. Every time something isn't realistic there is an explanation as to why it is so. So long as there's some sill explanation, it's believable.

When Blade the Vampire gets shot at and cut and he survives, it's believable because he's not human; normal laws don't apply to him. When Indiana Jones has a force field of "you Nazis can't ever hit me with your bullets", that's not believable nor realistic because he's supposedly a simple human.


In the end, I'll just attack and blow off the weapons of an airborne Stormraven with a few really angry Termagants and not consider realism nor believability for a moment.

Chibi-hawk could stick. Tau players will have a ball with that.

Kanluwen wrote:Why are people so hung up on the wings?

This isn't a fighter jet or a high altitude bomber.

This is a gunship.

It'll operate in the same role as an Apache does today.

InB4 "Apaches have too small wings for lift!"

In a gunship the wings, engines and lift surfaces are all around the centre of gravity. Here the weight and drag is focused at the front, while all the bits that control the movement of the thing are right at the back. It would be like jousting from a unicycle.

Asherian Command wrote:we all said it was going too look like a box. But the models here at dakka dakka look so much better.

EDIT: DO not comment here we already made a thread for it here
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/327475.page
Please contact a mod to close this thread thank you.

I'm keeping this one open and closing the discussion one since news and rumors is the better forum for it.

It reminds me of a sky-crane helicopter, which also tend to look unbalanced when unladen.

Need more pics for a real opinion though.

Does look like it will be super easy to make a Thunderhawk out of them though.

Jack

I dig it. I would like to see the back area for dreadnought hooking up purposes.

vitki wrote:I dub it the chibi-hawk

+lots more.

And...

Meh.

I guess this means the kit will be released with GK this winter.

I had been waiting for this. I hadn't included one in my BA lists because I didn't want to deal with converting one. I said I'd wait for the official model. I am no longer waiting. I will never run a storm raven.

I do not like it that much as a flyer,I like some of the kitbashes better.
But there are two great ideas I could use the parts for.
Like said Old School Razorback Turret ,Twin Las, plamsa.
And the main body looks like it would be a good base for a Mk1 Land Raider,maybe with baneblade tracks or even aftermarket WWII tank treads

I will still buy them. Like 2 of them...

MajorTom11 wrote:Aerodynamics are heresy.

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Seriously ugly!

I'm not really a fan of this and have seen much nicer scratch built ones.

This looks like a valk tried to swallow a thunder hawk.

Is this supposed to be some sort of joke? Scratch-Build, here I come... :/

Looks like utter and absolute garbage. Funny how the studio that put out kits like the Island of Blood set and the new Dark Eldar also puts out crap like the Razorgor and this abomination.

gothgar wrote:worst model GW has ever produced it worst model

You've obviously never seen the original Land Raider!

Kanluwen wrote:It'll operate in the same role as an Apache does today.

But Apaches look incredibly cool. This doesn't.

BloodQuest wrote:

gothgar wrote:worst model GW has ever produced it worst model

You've obviously never seen the original Land Raider!

Kanluwen wrote:It'll operate in the same role as an Apache does today.

But Apaches look incredibly cool. This doesn't.

So true
If they used real world references this would of never happened! Hopefully it will cost the same amount as a dreadnought

Kanluwen wrote:It'll operate in the same role as an Apache does today.

Apache isn't a transport. I do believe you mean the Hind.

I too am of the mind that this thing looks too front-heavy. The wings need to be more foreward, relative to the main fuselage, IMO.

Honestly, I've seen several Valk kit bashes that look better than this thing, although this one does have a more SM fell (the angular paneling around the passenger compartment looks a bit like the rhino/LR, for example). Maybe the ultimate kit bash will be to combine one of these kits with a Valk.

BrookM wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:It'll operate in the same role as an Apache does today.

Apache isn't a transport. I do believe you mean the Hind.

Apaches are classified as "gunships".

So no, I didn't mean the Hind.

This is pretty disappointing. It looks like someone just bashed wings onto a Land Raider until they kinda fit.

Well I think that this model will really show what type of gamer you are. Either you play an army for cool models, or because they are ridiculously op in game terms (and look like hell).

I sense that these will be really popular with people who only play blood angels for the cheese.

PS. The old Nagash model looks way better than this IMO.

The proportions are what are bugging me. Its like they had a bunch of different ideas but just didn't get any of them right.

This shows how they could have played with the proportions better.