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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 23:21:17
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Orbital bombardment anyone?
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 23:34:59
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
In a hole in New Zealand with internet access
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Tau rail guns actully woyuld cause the air to catch fire causing everything to BURN!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
All that breaths, dies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 23:42:28
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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There was a "Movie marine" army list in a WD WAAAAAY back where the Marines were made to their fluff specifications. Basically every bolter turned into an assault cannon, every marine was a daemon prince, and every Chainsword was akin to a lightning claw.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 00:05:34
Subject: Re:What if fluff was rules?
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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The game wouldn't exist. What fluff do you go by? In the Tau codex, the Tau are kicking rear. In the Marines codex, the marines are kicking rear. In the DE codex, DE are kicking rear. Each codex / book glorifies who it is written about. Thus you would have no actual base to go off of.
At least thats how I see it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 00:15:48
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Loud-Voiced Agitator
Corpus Christi Texas
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Ailaros wrote:purplefood wrote:Kharn would kill everything on both sides. Then he'd kill you and your opponent then everyone you know.
heh, yeah. You'd put the model down on the table and the evening news would show the gory scene of thousands of people getting slaughtered by a tiny pewter miniature on the rampage. It would only finally be brought down when someone arrived with a tiny pewter miniature of Marenus Calgar.
... more on how this effects your weekend at 7.
This had made my day.I can see it now little Kharn trying to pile peoples heads up.
Anchorman"THE HORROR THE HORROR"
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One land raider ah ah ah, two land raiders ah ah ah three land raiders ah ah ah.
"These are my jump marines with bolters, they cost more than terminators" -ph34r |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 01:02:18
Subject: Re:What if fluff was rules?
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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Rubric Marines would be immune to half the weapons in the game since their fluff dictates "their entire power armour tomb must be obliterated to stop the soul within".
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Change and change until Change is our master, for nothing neither God nor mortal can hold that which has no form. Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
No game of chess can be won without pawns, and this may prove to be a very long game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 01:38:05
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New Jersey
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Guardsmen, gants, orks, and gaunts would be .00000000001 points each
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"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 02:11:41
Subject: Re:What if fluff was rules?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Shas'O Dorian wrote:The game wouldn't exist. What fluff do you go by? In the Tau codex, the Tau are kicking rear. In the Marines codex, the marines are kicking rear. In the DE codex, DE are kicking rear. Each codex / book glorifies who it is written about. Thus you would have no actual base to go off of.
At least thats how I see it.
I got the feeling in the Tau codex that they were actually dangerous in close combat, having evolved from warriors who hunt on the range with primitive tools (at least the Fire Warriors). That flew out the window when even conscripted guard are more competent.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 04:35:22
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
In a hole in New Zealand with internet access
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The only overall difference i can see is games below say 10000pts would be to quick and pointless. Woop!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 04:44:41
Subject: Re:What if fluff was rules?
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Space Marines, ever vigilant. Tau, too busy building washing machines. Eldar, too busy doing karate. Dark Eldar, too busy looking in a mirror. Chaos Space Marines, too busy hating soup. Necrons, too busy sleeping. Imperial Guard, too busy complaining. Orks, too busy punchin'. Tyranids, too busy munchin'. Chaos demons, too busy cursing. So as you can see from the above scientific table, only the space marines truly give a sh**t.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 04:47:28
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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What if fluff was rules?
The world would be a better place.
Fluff and power should be congruous. The more fluffy your army is, the more powerful your army should become.
Sadly this has never been reflected in the rules except for a very small amount of times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 05:21:22
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
Australia
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Depends what type of fluff. Realistic fluff would probably shift the game into a more “herohammer” ish direction. Characters/Land Raider equivalents/TH/SS equivalents would become indestructible and people would generally be trying to squeeze as much of these units as possible. Players of the more exotic armies (such as traitor guard and Sisters) would probably have access to more balanced army lists. Abaddon’s fluff as rules would be hilarious (probably something along the lines of fielding an indestructible terminator wing list and being able to field a Black Crusade in Apoc games).
Now if all the zany fluff became rules, all loyalist codices would be twice as powerful as any xenos/chaos codex. Any Space Marine character/unit could be used in an Ultra Marine list (as all Space Marines secretly want to become Ultra Marines apaprently). And lastly, knowing Matt Ward, Mephiston would probably retain the IC rule and his attacks would probably be resolved at Str D.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Goood! Goooood!
Your hate has made you powerful. Now take your Privateer Press tape measure and strike me down with all your hatred and your journey to the dark side will be complete!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 05:29:18
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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If fluff were rules, you'd need a couple more tables just to field your 'Nid army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 05:35:35
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:If fluff were rules, you'd need a couple more tables just to field your 'Nid army.
Right, but only if we have access to a IG Artillery Regiment. Should soften you up to single table size quickly enough.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 05:38:52
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Tzeentchling9 wrote:If fluff were rules, you'd need a couple more tables just to field your 'Nid army. Right, but only if we have access to a IG Artillery Regiment. Should soften you up to single table size quickly enough. 
Until you ran out of ammo and/or dropped dead from the spores in the air. Then the re-grown 'Nid army would nearly overwhelm you and the Spess Marines would show up at the last minute to save you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 05:44:07
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ixias wrote:The deffguns that lootas have says that they "spell a violent death to anyone in its crosshairs".
Strictly fluff RAW here, but this would have no effect unless your enemies were having problems spelling the word "death."
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Build a fire for a man and he will be warm for a day; set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Sly Marbo was originally armed with a power weapon, but he dropped it while assaulting a space marine command squad just so his enemies could feel pain.
Sly Marbo doesn't go to ground, the ground comes to him. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 05:48:35
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Raging Ravener
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Orks would be even more crazy and fun to play
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BeRzErKeR wrote:MagicJuggler wrote:It's not a matter of grippage. It's a matter of weight ratios. A 500-lb thrust Rokkit, cannot carry a 2-ton Warboss. And don't ask about African Rokkits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 06:26:18
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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I could see the C'tan munching on a few planets at time...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 06:30:20
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Maugan Ra would eat chaos for breakfast. And Yriel would do the same to tyranids.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 10:00:42
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Mattieau wrote:Maugan Ra would eat chaos for breakfast. And Yriel would do the same to tyranids.
All Eldar would need are the Pheonix(Sp?) lords.
Pbviously Mr. Ra would take all the Tyranids.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 10:06:42
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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The game would be nigh on unplayable as there is so much fluff out there, lots with contradicting pieces.
I would really like it if GW kept to a continuous arc of fluff and the game based on that.
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No pity, no remorse, no shoes |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 10:11:12
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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The model who last killed lucius is removed and replaced by lucius (on one wound). And the next person to use a board after an ork player was on it would have a load of orks scatered around from the spores left over.
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Did you know? Every sunday from 12 to 5 pm you can get a carvery for £6.95 at the pudding and pye.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 10:15:19
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
In a hole in New Zealand with internet access
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thats the same as in 3rd isent it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 16:13:55
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Dakka Veteran
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whocares wrote:Ixias wrote:The deffguns that lootas have says that they "spell a violent death to anyone in its crosshairs".
Strictly fluff RAW here, but this would have no effect unless your enemies were having problems spelling the word "death."
We're going to have a RAW vs RAI argument here arnt we......
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 20:37:58
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fluff RAI?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 20:43:30
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Ailaros wrote:Fluff RAI?
Well "Spell a violent death" means that the person will die violently.
But if the words are taken as their literal meaning then it means anyone caught in the crosshairs of the gun will have to spell "A violent death" or spell "Death" very violently.
However this is clearly not was intended so they just die instead.
In summary go figure...
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 20:50:44
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Dakka Veteran
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purplefood wrote:Ailaros wrote:Fluff RAI?
Well "Spell a violent death" means that the person will die violently.
But if the words are taken as their literal meaning then it means anyone caught in the crosshairs of the gun will have to spell "A violent death" or spell "Death" very violently.
However this is clearly not was intended so they just die instead.
In summary go figure...
Nah its obviously spelling "a violent", and the request is directed at Death
and since its only people "in its crosshairs" the whole point is moot, noone is "inside" crosshairs theire infront of or behind them!
Silly GW and thair unclear fluff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 20:55:28
Subject: Re:What if fluff was rules?
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Fixture of Dakka
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SM will destoy anything. raven guard would be practically invisible. (for those of you who have read chapter's due- that.) (for those of you who have listened to raven's flight- every raven guard is now nearly as good as corax)  bye iron warriors.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 21:01:34
Subject: What if fluff was rules?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Gibbsey wrote:purplefood wrote:Ailaros wrote:Fluff RAI?
Well "Spell a violent death" means that the person will die violently.
But if the words are taken as their literal meaning then it means anyone caught in the crosshairs of the gun will have to spell "A violent death" or spell "Death" very violently.
However this is clearly not was intended so they just die instead.
In summary go figure...
Nah its obviously spelling "a violent", and the request is directed at Death
and since its only people "in its crosshairs" the whole point is moot, noone is "inside" crosshairs theire infront of or behind them!
Silly GW and thair unclear fluff 
I think you have me there. Automatically Appended Next Post: shrike wrote:SM will destoy anything. raven guard would be practically invisible. (for those of you who have read chapter's due- that.) (for those of you who have listened to raven's flight- every raven guard is now nearly as good as corax)  bye iron warriors. 
I love the RG in that.
Also everyone will be an Alpha Legionnaire in disguise.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 21:06:44
Subject: Re:What if fluff was rules?
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Dakka Veteran
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I think i just created fluff lawyering
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