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Orbital bombardment anyone?

Tau rail guns actully woyuld cause the air to catch fire causing everything to BURN!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
All that breaths, dies.

There was a "Movie marine" army list in a WD WAAAAAY back where the Marines were made to their fluff specifications. Basically every bolter turned into an assault cannon, every marine was a daemon prince, and every Chainsword was akin to a lightning claw.

The game wouldn't exist. What fluff do you go by? In the Tau codex, the Tau are kicking rear. In the Marines codex, the marines are kicking rear. In the DE codex, DE are kicking rear. Each codex / book glorifies who it is written about. Thus you would have no actual base to go off of.

At least thats how I see it.

Ailaros wrote:

purplefood wrote:Kharn would kill everything on both sides. Then he'd kill you and your opponent then everyone you know.

heh, yeah. You'd put the model down on the table and the evening news would show the gory scene of thousands of people getting slaughtered by a tiny pewter miniature on the rampage. It would only finally be brought down when someone arrived with a tiny pewter miniature of Marenus Calgar.

... more on how this effects your weekend at 7.

This had made my day.I can see it now little Kharn trying to pile peoples heads up.
Anchorman"THE HORROR THE HORROR"

Rubric Marines would be immune to half the weapons in the game since their fluff dictates "their entire power armour tomb must be obliterated to stop the soul within".

Guardsmen, gants, orks, and gaunts would be .00000000001 points each

Shas'O Dorian wrote:The game wouldn't exist. What fluff do you go by? In the Tau codex, the Tau are kicking rear. In the Marines codex, the marines are kicking rear. In the DE codex, DE are kicking rear. Each codex / book glorifies who it is written about. Thus you would have no actual base to go off of.

At least thats how I see it.

I got the feeling in the Tau codex that they were actually dangerous in close combat, having evolved from warriors who hunt on the range with primitive tools (at least the Fire Warriors). That flew out the window when even conscripted guard are more competent.

The only overall difference i can see is games below say 10000pts would be to quick and pointless. Woop!

Space Marines, ever vigilant.
Tau, too busy building washing machines.
Eldar, too busy doing karate.
Dark Eldar, too busy looking in a mirror.
Chaos Space Marines, too busy hating soup.
Necrons, too busy sleeping.
Imperial Guard, too busy complaining.
Orks, too busy punchin'.
Tyranids, too busy munchin'.
Chaos demons, too busy cursing.

So as you can see from the above scientific table, only the space marines truly give a sh**t.

What if fluff was rules?

The world would be a better place.

Fluff and power should be congruous. The more fluffy your army is, the more powerful your army should become.

Sadly this has never been reflected in the rules except for a very small amount of times.

Depends what type of fluff. Realistic fluff would probably shift the game into a more “herohammer” ish direction. Characters/Land Raider equivalents/TH/SS equivalents would become indestructible and people would generally be trying to squeeze as much of these units as possible. Players of the more exotic armies (such as traitor guard and Sisters) would probably have access to more balanced army lists. Abaddon’s fluff as rules would be hilarious (probably something along the lines of fielding an indestructible terminator wing list and being able to field a Black Crusade in Apoc games).

Now if all the zany fluff became rules, all loyalist codices would be twice as powerful as any xenos/chaos codex. Any Space Marine character/unit could be used in an Ultra Marine list (as all Space Marines secretly want to become Ultra Marines apaprently). And lastly, knowing Matt Ward, Mephiston would probably retain the IC rule and his attacks would probably be resolved at Str D.

If fluff were rules, you'd need a couple more tables just to field your 'Nid army.

Tzeentchling9 wrote:If fluff were rules, you'd need a couple more tables just to field your 'Nid army.

Right, but only if we have access to a IG Artillery Regiment. Should soften you up to single table size quickly enough.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Tzeentchling9 wrote:If fluff were rules, you'd need a couple more tables just to field your 'Nid army.

Right, but only if we have access to a IG Artillery Regiment. Should soften you up to single table size quickly enough.

Until you ran out of ammo and/or dropped dead from the spores in the air. Then the re-grown 'Nid army would nearly overwhelm you and the Spess Marines would show up at the last minute to save you.

Ixias wrote:The deffguns that lootas have says that they "spell a violent death to anyone in its crosshairs".

Strictly fluff RAW here, but this would have no effect unless your enemies were having problems spelling the word "death."

Orks would be even more crazy and fun to play

I could see the C'tan munching on a few planets at time...

Maugan Ra would eat chaos for breakfast. And Yriel would do the same to tyranids.

Mattieau wrote:Maugan Ra would eat chaos for breakfast. And Yriel would do the same to tyranids.

All Eldar would need are the Pheonix(Sp?) lords.
Pbviously Mr. Ra would take all the Tyranids.

The game would be nigh on unplayable as there is so much fluff out there, lots with contradicting pieces.

I would really like it if GW kept to a continuous arc of fluff and the game based on that.

The model who last killed lucius is removed and replaced by lucius (on one wound).

And the next person to use a board after an ork player was on it would have a load of orks scatered around from the spores left over.

thats the same as in 3rd isent it?

whocares wrote:

Ixias wrote:The deffguns that lootas have says that they "spell a violent death to anyone in its crosshairs".

Strictly fluff RAW here, but this would have no effect unless your enemies were having problems spelling the word "death."

We're going to have a RAW vs RAI argument here arnt we......

Fluff RAI?

Ailaros wrote:Fluff RAI?

Well "Spell a violent death" means that the person will die violently.
But if the words are taken as their literal meaning then it means anyone caught in the crosshairs of the gun will have to spell "A violent death" or spell "Death" very violently.
However this is clearly not was intended so they just die instead.
In summary go figure...

purplefood wrote:

Ailaros wrote:Fluff RAI?

Well "Spell a violent death" means that the person will die violently.
But if the words are taken as their literal meaning then it means anyone caught in the crosshairs of the gun will have to spell "A violent death" or spell "Death" very violently.
However this is clearly not was intended so they just die instead.
In summary go figure...

Nah its obviously spelling "a violent", and the request is directed at Death

and since its only people "in its crosshairs" the whole point is moot, noone is "inside" crosshairs theire infront of or behind them!

Silly GW and thair unclear fluff

SM will destoy anything. raven guard would be practically invisible. (for those of you who have read chapter's due- that.) (for those of you who have listened to raven's flight- every raven guard is now nearly as good as corax) bye iron warriors.

Gibbsey wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Ailaros wrote:Fluff RAI?

Well "Spell a violent death" means that the person will die violently.
But if the words are taken as their literal meaning then it means anyone caught in the crosshairs of the gun will have to spell "A violent death" or spell "Death" very violently.
However this is clearly not was intended so they just die instead.
In summary go figure...

Nah its obviously spelling "a violent", and the request is directed at Death

and since its only people "in its crosshairs" the whole point is moot, noone is "inside" crosshairs theire infront of or behind them!

Silly GW and thair unclear fluff

I think you have me there.


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shrike wrote:SM will destoy anything. raven guard would be practically invisible. (for those of you who have read chapter's due- that.) (for those of you who have listened to raven's flight- every raven guard is now nearly as good as corax) bye iron warriors.

I love the RG in that.
Also everyone will be an Alpha Legionnaire in disguise.

I think i just created fluff lawyering