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Absolutionis wrote:I call it now. The new Aspect Warriors are going to be mounted on War Walkers utilizing this 30" assault range while being capable in close combat.

We've seen the Hornet and the Wasp so far...

Eldar Stinging Bees Aspect Warriors!

I don't think we'll see another Aspect, aside from y'know...the Shadow Spectres.

However, I do like the fact that we're going to be seeing the background for the Eldar Corsairs really stepping it up a notch.

Very interested in the fleshing-out of corsairs. As far as the rules go, (and they are still experimental) I wonder if they mean that 1 squadron may be taken as a troops choice, or you may take up to 6 squadrons, as troops choices. Apart from that it's just a war walker on crack. When they released the hornet, which is a vyper on crack, I was glad. Vypers need the upgrade. War walkers don't seem to need a big a boost as this is.

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:I call it now. The new Aspect Warriors are going to be mounted on War Walkers utilizing this 30" assault range while being capable in close combat.

We've seen the Hornet and the Wasp so far...

Eldar Stinging Bees Aspect Warriors!

I don't think we'll see another Aspect, aside from y'know...the Shadow Spectres.

However, I do like the fact that we're going to be seeing the background for the Eldar Corsairs really stepping it up a notch.

I was only kidding, actually. I really wouldn't ever want anything named "Stinging Bees".

However, I do recall a rumor a while back saying there would be two 'new' Aspect Warriors coming out.

Absolutionis wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:I call it now. The new Aspect Warriors are going to be mounted on War Walkers utilizing this 30" assault range while being capable in close combat.

We've seen the Hornet and the Wasp so far...

Eldar Stinging Bees Aspect Warriors!

I don't think we'll see another Aspect, aside from y'know...the Shadow Spectres.

However, I do like the fact that we're going to be seeing the background for the Eldar Corsairs really stepping it up a notch.

I was only kidding, actually. I really wouldn't ever want anything named "Stinging Bees".

However, I do recall a rumor a while back saying there would be two 'new' Aspect Warriors coming out.

There was talk of the Slicing Orbs, but eh. We'll see.

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:I call it now. The new Aspect Warriors are going to be mounted on War Walkers utilizing this 30" assault range while being capable in close combat.

We've seen the Hornet and the Wasp so far...

Eldar Stinging Bees Aspect Warriors!

I don't think we'll see another Aspect, aside from y'know...the Shadow Spectres.

However, I do like the fact that we're going to be seeing the background for the Eldar Corsairs really stepping it up a notch.

I was only kidding, actually. I really wouldn't ever want anything named "Stinging Bees".

However, I do recall a rumor a while back saying there would be two 'new' Aspect Warriors coming out.

There was talk of the Slicing Orbs, but eh. We'll see.

if you're being serious then i'm happy

I'm thinking this could be a good unique "command" war walker for Apocalypse Shadow Walker host

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:I call it now. The new Aspect Warriors are going to be mounted on War Walkers utilizing this 30" assault range while being capable in close combat.

We've seen the Hornet and the Wasp so far...

Eldar Stinging Bees Aspect Warriors!

I don't think we'll see another Aspect, aside from y'know...the Shadow Spectres.

However, I do like the fact that we're going to be seeing the background for the Eldar Corsairs really stepping it up a notch.

I was only kidding, actually. I really wouldn't ever want anything named "Stinging Bees".

However, I do recall a rumor a while back saying there would be two 'new' Aspect Warriors coming out.

There was talk of the Slicing Orbs, but eh. We'll see.

if you're being serious then i'm happy

I'm being serious. They mentioned the Slicing Orbs of Zandros as one of the potential Aspects explored during the book, but I've not seen anything to make me think they're actually coming out.

Not sure I understand why they can get a 24" jump move, but I do like the Deep Strike option. Points-wise, the weapons seem a bit high, but in line with the rest of the Eldar codex (IE: over priced weapon options).

All in all, I like it, but will wait until the final rules are released before making any purchases.

A truly excellent model.

Wow.. this is what I miss in Forge World when I have my head buried in work for a week straight.

This thing is SWEET.

Lovely models I think two would be an perfect addition to my growing eldar army.

BlueDagger wrote:Ah yes sir you are correct, there is no restriction on DSing and shooting for walkers, so that does give them a significant boost.

They are actually a minimum base cost of 55pts since you must take 2 guns. Typical cost will be 75pts per most likely though, and guide isn't a absolute must for these since they are BS4.

1410pts for:
4x 3 Wasps w/ Dual Scatter Lasers
3x 3 War Walkers w/ Dual Scatter lasers could be a giggle and leaves enough room for a skeleton crew on the last two scoring troops and guider HQs

168 str 6 shots with 36" range *rolls on floor laughing*

Eeeeeeeeeeeeexactly!

Too bad they don't score. But tabling most things would not be hard with that layout. Heck, pull two of the Wasp squads out and use the points for some Snakes on a Plane, and you'll toast anything out there in two turns.


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I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:Apart from that it's just a war walker on crack. When they released the hornet, which is a vyper on crack, I was glad. Vypers need the upgrade. War walkers don't seem to need a big a boost as this is.

True, probably- but FW don't really care about list balance. And what little they do care for, they seem to try to balance between heir own inferior lists (like Renegades vs. Krieg) rather than against regular 40K codices.

And it's nice to see that FW do design some things just because they are a cool idea.

Anyways, pretty easy to kitbash if you're not able to afford the FW kit. So's the Hornet actually- I'm making one out of a new-style Prism turret right now. There's enough bitz left to make an old-style Prism too, if you have an old Falcon turret laying around.

Savnock wrote:Anyways, pretty easy to kitbash if you're not able to afford the FW kit. So's the Hornet actually- I'm making one out of a new-style Prism turret right now. There's enough bitz left to make an old-style Prism too, if you have an old Falcon turret laying around.

And there's enough bits left over from that to make an old-style Wave Serpent.

ancientsociety wrote:Cool model but the "Jump Jets" rule seems fairly redundant, especially considering how much War Walkers suck in Assault...

Just because you have the ability to move towards the opponent at great speed doesn't mean you always have to move in that direction.


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Savnock wrote:

BlueDagger wrote:Ah yes sir you are correct, there is no restriction on DSing and shooting for walkers, so that does give them a significant boost.

They are actually a minimum base cost of 55pts since you must take 2 guns. Typical cost will be 75pts per most likely though, and guide isn't a absolute must for these since they are BS4.

1410pts for:
4x 3 Wasps w/ Dual Scatter Lasers
3x 3 War Walkers w/ Dual Scatter lasers could be a giggle and leaves enough room for a skeleton crew on the last two scoring troops and guider HQs

168 str 6 shots with 36" range *rolls on floor laughing*

Eeeeeeeeeeeeexactly!

Too bad they don't score. But tabling most things would not be hard with that layout. Heck, pull two of the Wasp squads out and use the points for some Snakes on a Plane, and you'll toast anything out there in two turns.

You can do this now for 1170. Sure, you only get 132 shots and half of them are only 12" range (but with a 12" move) and you have to use Warp Spiders to do it, but I've always thought that the list would be fun.

I think it is cool, the Shuriken Cannon and Scatterlaser options are not too many points. Nothing wrong with 30" charge and BS4.

I have been wanting to get some War Walkers but I can never fit them in. So there you go eh.

War Walkers belong in close combat anyway that's why they have two attacks.

Nice model really should be fast attack.

It's a war walker with a new canopy right? And they glued a fin and two little nozzles on the back? And if I'm not mistaken they took the wave serpent weapon panels and glued them to the side of the shuriken cannon. Am I missing something? That's like 10% of an upgrade sprue, and there's like 15 posts in this thread to the effect of "This new model forgeworld made rocks!" -> have you guys seen a war walker? Like there's a post on page one where someone muses that this would make a great stand in for a war walker. Yeah it would, because it's a war walker. Falcons also make really good counts-as Falcons.

As for the rules, they moved the War Walker to the Troops slot and made it BS4, and added some crap special rule. The Walker's biggest problems were that it took up HS slots that were extremely valuable in an Eldar list, and it was typically too fragile vs how expensive it was and the damage it did. Moving it out of HS is great and Making it BS4 goes a way towards mitigating some of the latter concern but these things could really stand to either have a much cheaper base cost or pay less for most of those weapon upgrades. People like to freak out about how many S6 shots they can put out but most of these are going to be dead before they can do anything.

I don't think anyone is fooled that it is not a warwalker with some add on bits; I think it has a lot to do with the striking new front canopy that looks a lot better than the old Falcon canopy.

I'm pretty excited as I can run a themed army based around this kit, the war walkers and vypers.

Now, if they will sell the canopy separately, ill be really happy.

If you have good modelling skills you could vac form some

Interesting...
The model to me looks just like a war walker with a snazzy paint job (aside from a few extras) so that didn't really get me excited.

The BS4 is nice but i don't see the point of the 24" move or the fact they're troops, they can't score anyway becasue they're vehicles. And, as has been mentioned, their base cost is 55 and they're more likely to be costing around 70 with decent firepower.

It's certainly not the best FW eldar release, I think i'll be sticking with regular war walkers for now.

I think making them a fast attack choice vs troop choice is more sensible, but this allows me to still used lots of vypers.

Ill go with both war walkers and this version.

Dear forgeworld, stop this now before I sell my car for your resin crack based goodness. I'm a shallow person, so I don't care if they just put new fins and jets on a walker, I still love it.

Eldar Own wrote:...I don't see the point of... the fact they're troops, they can't score anyway becasue they're vehicles.

I thought it would be obvious: making them troops means you can have a lot. Throw in a Wasp-driving HQ, and your entire army could be mounted in these walkers.

I can see some uses for the 30" assault...
Charging AV13/14 vehicles (that have rear AV 10) that your S6 spam can't get side shots on.
Chariging into any unit that has no fists and in mainly S4 or less.
Simply moving away from danger.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

If you're looking to introduce realism to a game where people cross the galaxy in 5 mile long ships bristling with weapons capable of levelling entire star systems only to teleport to the surface and clobber each other round the head with swords then you're on a hiding to nothing my friend...

"Fly my starship closer so i can hit them with my sword"

Good times...

I think I would buy them just to play as war walkers.

So GW is now making a Wasp, with the ability to have an SRM (Eldar Missile Launcher), Medium Laser (Scatterlaser) and Jump Jets? I wonder when they'll get around to the Hunchback.

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:I call it now. The new Aspect Warriors are going to be mounted on War Walkers utilizing this 30" assault range while being capable in close combat.

We've seen the Hornet and the Wasp so far...

Eldar Stinging Bees Aspect Warriors!

I don't think we'll see another Aspect, aside from y'know...the Shadow Spectres.

However, I do like the fact that we're going to be seeing the background for the Eldar Corsairs really stepping it up a notch.

I was only kidding, actually. I really wouldn't ever want anything named "Stinging Bees".

However, I do recall a rumor a while back saying there would be two 'new' Aspect Warriors coming out.

There was talk of the Slicing Orbs, but eh. We'll see.

what are the slicing orbs? they sound interesting

kitsunez wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:I call it now. The new Aspect Warriors are going to be mounted on War Walkers utilizing this 30" assault range while being capable in close combat.

We've seen the Hornet and the Wasp so far...

Eldar Stinging Bees Aspect Warriors!

I don't think we'll see another Aspect, aside from y'know...the Shadow Spectres.

However, I do like the fact that we're going to be seeing the background for the Eldar Corsairs really stepping it up a notch.

I was only kidding, actually. I really wouldn't ever want anything named "Stinging Bees".

However, I do recall a rumor a while back saying there would be two 'new' Aspect Warriors coming out.

There was talk of the Slicing Orbs, but eh. We'll see.

what are the slicing orbs? they sound interesting

the slicing orbs were mentioned in the second edition codex eldar, basicly they use orbs of monfiliment wire with monfilement wires coming from their hands

I dig this new release, it is similar to the war walker but more defined. I like the sleekness of the wasp and the sense of alien about it. Awesome! Can't wait to see what these guys do for the dark eldar...