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Reecius wrote:
@Veritechc
Got your and your son's preregistration. We are in the process of posting on BoLS, Warseer, B&C and a few local forums, too. We will also be on at least one PodCast. If you can spread the word at your local game club, that would be awesome, thanks!

Thanks. Already posted the event at our Northern California board Brotherhood of Mutants.

We have a scheduale up on the website if anyone needs that.

Pre reg email sent. Is the 45$ an at the door price?

Pre-registered. You guys rock. Gonna make every attempt to be there

Reecius, I just put a post up on the Freeboota forums as well for the 40k Radio guys.

I wish I could be there, however I literally just committed yesterday to go on vacation that weekend up in Big Bear with my entire family.

@Veritechc
Awesome! Thanks a ton!

@Huckleberry
That is a cash price for people who can viably get us money, mostly locals. I imagine the vast majority of people will pay via PayPal for ease and security reasons. The Prereg price has to be paid early or it will roll over into normal registration pricing which is $5 more.

@Warboss Russ
I hope you can make it, brotha!

@Wolflord Patrick
Bummer that you can't make it, that stinks. Oh well, camping in Big Bear with the family sounds pretty awesome. And thanks a million for helping to spread the word, we really appreciate it.

Now Carlos has to come to represent the Woltime! Aooooooooo!!

How long should a pre-reg take to get a confirmation email, sent it last night.

should get the email by tomorrow fuegan17 if not try resending it.

@Fuegan17

bayareaopen40k@gmail.com

That is the correct address, try resending it if you have not gotten a response. Most of them have been going out very quickly.


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Update to the Fantasy side of the event, please check for details!

I'm signed up too Reece. See you there.

Reecius wrote:Sportsmanship will be a simple thumbs up, thumbs down affair. A thumb's down will come with a written explanation and will be shown to your opponent who will have the opportunity to explain their position.

Shown to the offending player by the TO or marking player?

Reecius wrote:The first is a warning but if a player gets more then one, administrative action will be taken up to and including reversing a win, and expulsion from the event. The parameters for a thumbs down will be strictly enforced and clearly defined. In other words, we are all big boys and girls and the staff expects you to act as such. Don't be a douche.

Okay, I see this as being a good way to minimize douche-baggery. However, your process sounds a bit confrontational.

While I'm *used* to confrontation (Middle-School Teacher for 11 years ... in South-Central LA) and have no problem pointing out, "Oh, yeah, I'm giving you a Poor mark because I thought you're Moves were extra long and I can't believe you let me forget that the Immoblizied result should have been a Wreck, given my melta's AP1 ..." Etc.

I'm thinking that other players might not have *quite* the chutzpah to want to hash such a thing out. I think most would rather mark 'em down and wait for the next round without having to tell someone that they fudged a rule or possibly cheated.

I understand the intention of this Sportsmanship Marking System and applaud it.

But, I'd like to hear if this Sportsmanship mechanic is something you've done before, Reecius? Can you relate an anecdote or two on how this would pan out? Especially when that Game/Round is over?

I have done this type of sports before and I found it to be the best of a bad situation.

Ideally, sports would not be needed. We are all adults and should act as such.

Unfortunately, some people are gakky and will act like douches when given the chance. Those few d-bags amongst us tend to spoil it for everyone.

On the same note, certain people who are passive aggressive, or a sore loser, etc. will use a sports system to unfairly ding their opponent to hurt their chances of winning an event where sports affects the actual score.

So, we do need some type of sportsmanship to keep said douches in line but to limit the other types of douches from hurting people unfairly.

In order to find a middle ground that accomplishes both goals, we have implemented a system that is a bit of a bastard of multiple systems.

The open thumbs up thumbs down system has a really harsh consequence if actually used. This means that the sore loser will most likely be shamed into not using it as they know that the impact can be huge and that they will not have the luxury of anonymity to hide behind. It is not a simple little one or two point ding they can rationalize to themselves.

By making it open and having to justify the reason for administering it, the jerk can not simply mark a thumbs down and leave it be as the judge will show the other player what it says (to answer one of your questions) and that player will be allowed to defend themselves.

The rationale is that this will eliminate all but legitimate grievances from affecting someone's performance in the tournament. Only those people who REALLY feel that they were wronged will stand up in the face of all this push back to say something about it. By giving one freebie it also allows for those rare games when otherwise cool people play someone that just rubs them the wrong way.

Ultimately, we want a system that is as noninvasive as possible but still applies just punishment to A-holes only when necessitated. We don't want to give players the tools to impact one another's scores casually. It should only come into play when something really, really goes wrong.

A bit long winded, but I hope it answers your question.

Spots are filling up pretty quick so please make sure to email us asap so we can hold you a spot.

Yeah, we are already 30% full on the 40K side so jump on it if you want to join in.

3 days out and we are approaching half capacity for 40K, definitely want to jump on this soon if you guys are interested in going!

So I talked to Reecius and we are adding 2 Warmachine tournaments to this also! One each day. I will be the one officiating them and will get the full details to you guys shortly too! Hope I did not scoop you

No, not at all! We are stoked to be having Warmachine as well!

Lol i don't know what to play now for the event... WHFB, 40K, or Warmachine/Hordes...

Haha, yeah, I know the feeling! But that is a good thing, better than no tournaments at all!

Next year we will expand out to a three day event, but for this year you will unfortunately have to choose.

But hey, it that is people's biggest complaint, it is one I can live with

Menelker wrote:So I talked to Reecius and we are adding 2 Warmachine tournaments to this also! One each day. I will be the one officiating them and will get the full details to you guys shortly too! Hope I did not scoop you

Sounds good, if one of you guys could let me know when you post up the info for warmachine that would be great. I need to update the post on warseer.

Damn....I really wanted to go to this.....gotta go to summer school to save $1200 on my degree in Physical Therapy so wont have an army ready in time. If you do anymore saturday tournaments or open play give me a heads up.

2 Warmachine Tournaments? So is this some kind of Apoc Gladiator style Tournament? That sounds pretty cool. How many points and can I use my Stompa in it?

Dugg <- lives and breaths 40k

I'd love to go, but I'm already going to Pasadena in the beginning of June. Not sure I'd be able to afford TWO trips to CA in 2 months.

Also, Reecius, are you still square basing it, or did Adepticon truly put you off it?

@italiaplaya: I am going to get the Info to Reece today and will get it forwarded on too.

@Dugg: There will be one complete warmachine tourney each day. Since we can finish a 5 round tourney in one day in warmachine I figured I would just have one each day. I may mix up the format between the days. Maybe 35 points one day, 50 the other. Going to finalize it today.

@Defeatmyarmy
only $45 for a ticket if you give me cash, Dan. Not bad at all, and I am sure you can get your hands on an army if you want to play.

We're having a tournament at Black Diamond Games this Saturday if you are interested.

@PLatuan4th
Yeah, I am just not that into Fantasy personally anymore. I have not played since Adepticon.

Bummer you can't make it out! I am going to guilt trip Ozzymandias into coming!

@Menelker
One thing to consider, we are going to be going dice down on the last event at 4pm on Sunday, so maybe the larger points tournament should be on Saturday when there is more time?

@Dugg
Haha, I see what you did there!

I'll try to make a more open visit sometime(Botcon's got a very full schedule, not including after hours parties by the various forums). The events you guys have are probably the best way, especially as I want to get more involved in the national scene.

@Reece: good to know. thanks!

I'm pre-registered, but when will we be rquired to submit our army lists? At the time of actual registration?

@Platuan4th
Yeah, getting into the national scene really took it to the next level for me. I enjoy the hobby a lot mor enow because of it.

@Corteaz667
Awesome avatar!
And your list won't be due for a while, no worries. We will collect them about a week to two weeks out to check points.

Reecius wrote:@Defeatmyarmy
only $45 for a ticket if you give me cash, Dan. Not bad at all, and I am sure you can get your hands on an army if you want to play.

We're having a tournament at Black Diamond Games this Saturday if you are interested.

@PLatuan4th
Yeah, I am just not that into Fantasy personally anymore. I have not played since Adepticon.

Bummer you can't make it out! I am going to guilt trip Ozzymandias into coming!

@Menelker
One thing to consider, we are going to be going dice down on the last event at 4pm on Sunday, so maybe the larger points tournament should be on Saturday when there is more time?

@Dugg
Haha, I see what you did there!

Ya.....I didnt read the painting requirements til now so Ill see you there with a 3 color army now im excited