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Don't expect to hear anything for awhile about the Sisters, frankly.

It looks like Kelly is the one doing them, so it'll be awhile in the making.

I'm not. The SOONEST I expect Sisters is Nov/Dec this year, which means we'd get reliable information in Oct/Nov.

Yeah but you're a sisters fanatic Melissia. Of course you expect them in Nov/Dec...


But personally I want to hear more about these With Chunters. They sound ace!

Hang on a sec... Who, exactly, is this Chunter person and why is GW supposed to make a codex based on him and who he's with?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:We also know that WH are the 2nd oldest codex around (after Necrons) but have never been great sellers so GW is in no hurry to put out a new book.

A blind man can see why they were never great sellers: they were the only army that didn't get replacement models for their basic troops in 3rd edition, leaving them with six year old metals when everyone else was getting new plastics. And it only got worse from there, being moved to Direct Only and then having the price increased to 50 pounds per squad.

Ah, poor HBMC, and his literacy problem. Hopefully someday we'll be able to pitch in enough cash to send him to finish his grade school curriculum so that he will be able to have more coherent conversations with us.

Jokes aside, I said "the soonest" meaning that would be the most optimistic projections. Do pay attention

I'd put money this one is in fact true, we'll get a PDF but no new models.

We all know that, for whatever reason, GW has problems doing a plastic SOB kit.

I'm pretty sure that it's not "for whatever reason". There's a specific reason. The robed habits worn underneath the Power Armour is, according to some folks who've heard it from Goodwin, the issue. They can do them in two ways: either flowing in multiple different ways, which ups the complexity factor(and presents a mold/casting issue) or they end up like we saw with the Dark Eldar Warriors/Wyches. They're dynamic, but the bodies only fit together in certain ways--which while simplifying the casting/molds, also decreases the amounts of posing, etc that can be done.

I've heard that before and don't buy that's the whole reason. GW had done flowing robes before Wood Elfs, High Elfs and Black Space Marines all come to mind. If they're happy with those models why would the SoBs be unacceptable? And if the robes are the issue they can be redesigned like the Cadians were.

So GW could make plastic SoBs but, for some reason, choose not to.

We also know that WH are the 2nd oldest codex around (after Necrons) but have never been great sellers so GW is in no hurry to put out a new book. It also had a ton of old mechanics GW would like to get rid of (allies).

Wait, Sisters of Battle have "never been great sellers"? Since when has that been true?

As for "they're in no hurry to put out a new book"--I think Phil Kelly disagrees with you.
We've already seen a PDF for Witchhunters. That's removed the Allies rule, and (kind of/sort of) brought the army up to a somewhat more acceptable place.

So I would bet good money GW is going to do another temporary codex (like they did in 3rd edition) and buy themselves another 2 years or so to develop SoB plastics or drop the range.

Yes. Because oh so many ranges have been dropped lately.

Oh wait. They haven't!

Sigh...

The first SoB codex came out in 1997, the second (3rd edition) in 2004. The 1997 was the last 2nd edition book and only legal for less than a year. From 1998 to 2004 the SoBs had temporary lists from the rule book and then in Chapter Approved. During this time every other army got a codex, some of them more than one (Chaos Space Marines and IG).

The 2004 book was the last 3rd edition book, included no plastic models (barring the immolator) and was only up to date for less than a year before 4th edition came out. now it's been 7 years during which time everyone except Necrons got an update, some more than one (Space Marines).

So yeah. In 14 years they got 2 codexes, no plastics and are one of the least seen armies around.

I think it's safe to say they are not a priority for GW nor are they a top seller.

Hey I like them, I'd love to do an SoB army (in plastic). I even have some metal ones kicking around. But hey, let's not ignore the fact in front of us.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

I'd put money this one is in fact true, we'll get a PDF but no new models.

We all know that, for whatever reason, GW has problems doing a plastic SOB kit.

I'm pretty sure that it's not "for whatever reason". There's a specific reason. The robed habits worn underneath the Power Armour is, according to some folks who've heard it from Goodwin, the issue. They can do them in two ways: either flowing in multiple different ways, which ups the complexity factor(and presents a mold/casting issue) or they end up like we saw with the Dark Eldar Warriors/Wyches. They're dynamic, but the bodies only fit together in certain ways--which while simplifying the casting/molds, also decreases the amounts of posing, etc that can be done.

I've heard that before and don't buy that's the whole reason. GW had done flowing robes before Wood Elfs, High Elfs and Black Space Marines all come to mind. If they're happy with those models why would the SoBs be unacceptable? And if the robes are the issue they can be redesigned like the Cadians were.

So GW could make plastic SoBs but, for some reason, choose not to.

Melissia wrote:Jokes aside

Oh! That was a joke was it? Sorry, I got confused what with the insults and all...

I never claimed my sense of humor was very good But it was posted in good fun.

So back on topic...

They're not gonna push Sisters into a white dwarf article. That's not as profitable to them as selling a book instead.

I see zhen12 is managing to stay on topic. Why not the rest of you?

I swear one of these days I'm going to suggest banning Red China from Dakka.

But there's always a chance I'll go back there so maybe not.

On SoBs, Kanluwen I'll bet a PDF/WD sisters codex before the end of the year and no plastics or real codex till 2013.

I hope not, I hope we get awesome models and a great codex but after Codex AWESOME EXTREME KNIGHTS I have no hope.

If the do a WD my hope is for a nice booklet bundled like they used to do back in the day. Even then I hope its just to tide people over till a full blown launch of new kits get everyone hyped for sisters then drop a bunch of new kits.

AlexHolker wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:We also know that WH are the 2nd oldest codex around (after Necrons) but have never been great sellers so GW is in no hurry to put out a new book.

A blind man can see why they were never great sellers: they were the only army that didn't get replacement models for their basic troops in 3rd edition, leaving them with six year old metals when everyone else was getting new plastics. And it only got worse from there, being moved to Direct Only and then having the price increased to 50 pounds per squad.

You know who did EXACTLY the same thing Go ahead, guess.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I swear one of these days I'm going to suggest banning Red China from Dakka.

But there's always a chance I'll go back there so maybe not.

On SoBs, Kanluwen I'll bet a PDF/WD sisters codex before the end of the year and no plastics or real codex till 2013.

I hope not, I hope we get awesome models and a great codex but after Codex AWESOME EXTREME KNIGHTS I have no hope.

Did I say that there would be plastics or a real codex this year?

Pretty sure I didn't. Pretty sure all I said was that they're being worked on, with all reports being Phil Kelly doing the book and Goodwin has pretty much spilled the beans that he's doing the model line-up.

The PDF/WD Sisters codex might happen, but I don't think so. Why?

We didn't see one for the DH->Grey Knights transition.
We did see one for Blood Angels though Make of that what you will.

I can't wait for GW to release, or not release, the new Sisters of Battle dex and army update based on this rumor. Unless it doesn't happen, which could happen based on this rumor.

I'm really looking forward to a special characters the OP says will go with this book. My favorite is going to be special character, he's sounds the coolest!

Lastly I just want to say thanks for the heads up, since now I know to put some money aside between now and 2013!

Just my two cents;

If the rumors about the 6th ed starter set are to be believed, then Witch Hunters vs. Chaos Marines (or Chaos in general) may be the next AoBR.

I really hope this is true. I enjoy the fluff of the Inquisition over any other aspect of the 40k world. I'm trading off my Space Marines for Grey Knights. If GW were to bring SoB up to date, I'd leap all over that.

I sincerely doubt an army like sisters of battle will be in the next starter box.

The next few releases will give us an idea for sure.

What's left? Sisters of battle and necrons are left on the 3rd ed platter. They are the only ones still with 3rd ed codecies.

Dark Angels and Black templars got faq updates...not a quickie pdf or anything. THey could have done this last year or two ago, but it was recently decided now to do that.

The oldest 4th ed book is Tau. The 2nd oldest is Eldar.

scuddman wrote:I sincerely doubt an army like sisters of battle will be in the next starter box.

The next few releases will give us an idea for sure.

What's left? Sisters of battle and necrons are left on the 3rd ed platter. They are the only ones still with 3rd ed codecies.

Dark Angels and Black templars got faq updates...not a quickie pdf or anything. THey could have done this last year or two ago, but it was recently decided now to do that.

The oldest 4th ed book is Tau. The 2nd oldest is Eldar.

Hm. So, if GW is working in a logical and predictable manner (Aha! Ha ha! Heh hee ah hoooo. Funny, eh?) then Necrons are after GK, which is generally accepted, I believe. If the BTs and DAs were 'patched' using their FAQs, then we may actually see SoB be the next Imperial army. Then Tau, Imperial, Eldar, Imperial.

Happygrunt wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:A blind man can see why they were never great sellers: they were the only army that didn't get replacement models for their basic troops in 3rd edition, leaving them with six year old metals when everyone else was getting new plastics. And it only got worse from there, being moved to Direct Only and then having the price increased to 50 pounds per squad.

You know who did EXACTLY the same thing Go ahead, guess.

Spoiler:

Grey Knights

Wrong. Both the PAGK and TAGK were new when the Daemonhunters came out.

*insert snarky comment*

Hello,
Well as always just keep in mind it is a rumor, as for the comment above about them not being good sellers or "popular": think of this, when SoB armies go on trade sites or Fbay, they go at a premium. Your comment will be "well they are metal", that really means nothing, it is based on the fact that no one sells them, or trades them, so they do have thier popularity, espeecially with the "fluff" crowd. The metals have been still selling or they would ditch them, they were pretty decent models for thier time frame. So passing the salt and wishing the SoB players luck because they have had to look at to many BA armies.

Regards,
Carl

Ghiest1 wrote:Hello,
Well as always just keep in mind it is a rumor,

^

Hm. So, if GW is working in a logical and predictable manner (Aha! Ha ha! Heh hee ah hoooo. Funny, eh?) then Necrons are after GK, which is generally accepted, I believe. If the BTs and DAs were 'patched' using their FAQs, then we may actually see SoB be the next Imperial army. Then Tau, Imperial, Eldar, Imperial.

It's almost logical and predictable. A possible monkey wrench is an inability to get SoB done correctly or on time, in which case the timetable will change. Another thing is that this sort of thinking gives you a general idea of what is coming next, not necessarily what is next. That means anything you listed is somewhat interchangeable to one degree or another.
What it does tell you is what won't be next.

I'd note too, that Chaos Space Marines didn't get a faq, but DA and BT did. If they aren't going to put vanilla space marines in the starter box (which is a great move, imo), GW is still likely to put some sort of marines in the box. THe question is who will oppose them? Tau? Eldar? Witchhunters? Shaq?

I'm hoping on Shaq

100 Marines

vs

Shaq

BrassScorpion wrote:

it will be between now and spring 2013.

As someone once said on Mystery Science Theater 3000, "Could you please be a little more vague?" LOL.

IIRC, that was from Cave Dwellers. We have MST3K night every Thursday

Out of this entire thread can someone confirm one little thing from me? SoB as henchmen for inquisitors in the GK codex :O?

No Sisters of Battle as henchmen I'm afraid. It is however possible to have a unit of base Guardsman stats and give them power armor and bolters. It would make them more costly than SoB with a lower BS, but that's about the best you could do.

xlightscreen wrote:Out of this entire thread can someone confirm one little thing from me? SoB as henchmen for inquisitors in the GK codex :O?

You can get BS3 Guardsmen in Power Armour with Boltguns for an excessive price. Whether that's close enough is up to you.

xlightscreen wrote:Out of this entire thread can someone confirm one little thing from me? SoB as henchmen for inquisitors in the GK codex :O?

SoB are not in the GK codex. I suppose you could proxy them in for something if you want.