Khornatedemon wrote:
speaking of wyches, vs. cleansing flame do they get their 4++. I can see an argument either way but if not then thats another ouchie for DE.
wyches get a 4++ in close combat, cleansing flame happens in close combat. It isn't a shooting attack.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Therion wrote: Chimeras are about 3.5 times more points efficient in the shooting game than Raiders and they can take down Ravagers too. Hydras and Riflemen on the other hand are ideally suited for taking down Ravagers/Razorwings unlike the other way around. A Ravager gets 0.33 glances and 0.66 penetrates against a Dreadnought (that is immune to shakes and stuns), while the Dreadnought gets 0.6 glances and 1.8 penetrates on the Ravager and of course has it easier to get a kill from the damage chart. It's not pretty, especially as we can assume a free 4+ cover save on the Dreadnought for hugging the rear of a tank.
the dreads do very well 1on1 but with good terrain
DE can move more than one vehicle to fire against a
GK target while limiting possible return fire. Its tough to theory hammer the number of lances
DE can use to gang up on something but that is what
LOS blocking terrain is for.
with bad terrain
DE are screwed but that is nothing new.
if you make a parking lot you get multicharged. If you get 1 wych into combat with the rifleman the
GK jumping out of the transport cant shoot at anything and basically have to charge the wyches which is where you want them.