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SBU has just contacted me and stated that he has received the Dark Eldar codex.

I trust that you can understand the seriousness of this matter and can take the appropriate action if you need to contact me further please do you have my email above buy to clarify it is as follows ciril.jones@yahoo.co.uk practasing solicitor of law

Just had to quote the last line of the message from his legal aid.
This isnt actually official in any way shape or form.
not only that, but i highly doubt it is written by anyone of such education.

First, the constant spelling, typo and grammar issues really do speak volumes.
With such a job you would make sure everything is correct.

Secondly, why on earth is the email address;

a: In a different name? (Ciril or Clive?)
Seems like someone has used a family members email account.

b: A yahoo email account? Something that is not safe (so shouldnt be sending any official works from it)
Also, you will find most people in any forms of legal workings would have a personal email, rather than a 5 minute to set up one free of charge.


So, not only has the said document been written up by a false person (illegal)
It was written as someone of legal standing, giving advice (highly illegal)

I wont comment on the current debate, however, it might be looking into this such person (clive or ciril?) and see what you can find.

Jackal wrote:

I trust that you can understand the seriousness of this matter and can take the appropriate action if you need to contact me further please do you have my email above buy to clarify it is as follows ciril.jones@yahoo.co.uk practasing solicitor of law

Just had to quote the last line of the message from his legal aid.
This isnt actually official in any way shape or form.
not only that, but i highly doubt it is written by anyone of such education.

First, the constant spelling, typo and grammar issues really do speak volumes.
With such a job you would make sure everything is correct.

Secondly, why on earth is the email address;

a: In a different name? (Ciril or Clive?)
Seems like someone has used a family members email account.

b: A yahoo email account? Something that is not safe (so shouldnt be sending any official works from it)
Also, you will find most people in any forms of legal workings would have a personal email, rather than a 5 minute to set up one free of charge.


So, not only has the said document been written up by a false person (illegal)
It was written as someone of legal standing, giving advice (highly illegal)

I wont comment on the current debate, however, it might be looking into this such person (clive or ciril?) and see what you can find.

I won't disagree with you Jackal. Don't take this as such. Take it more as a 'Devil's Advocate' type post.
One of my buddies is a very successful lawyer. Highly educated. One of the smartest people I've ever known.
Everything I've ever gotten from him professionally has been spectacularly written. Every privately sent email, etc., has been quite bad. His spelling is horrible.
That's because his ASSISTANTS write anything legal that he needs done but does not have a form letter for. If it were up to him to write it, there would be few spelling mistakes (spell check), but possibly plenty of grammatical and usage (their/there/they're) errors.

This letter could very well have been written by a lawyer. I would be more along the lines of believing it was a buddy of his doing it from home than a professionally retained counsel, however.

As for Ciril vs. Clive? Nicknames.
My grand daughter's name is Erin. We sometimes call her "Frank" or "Frankie." See a connection? LOL
At least the "lawyer" has a first initial in common. LOL

Eric

If you read the comments about the naming - something to do with Ciril - that is actually an established lawfirm or something to that effect and the person that wrote that letter was either doing so as a representative of that firm or using their e-mail address to make his letter seem more official.

At least that's the way I understood it.

Edit: Also, the format of the letter, down to the typos, is similar to what we've been reading in this very thread from SBU.

Have an open trade currently going with him. Sent my SoB and he sent his Grey Knights. I'm hoping they will arrive soon, but these posts damped my spirits.

I did a trade with him recently and he had some items received damaged, which he did show me picture proof. He requested £12 to be returned for items he purchase totallying £18 inc £3 delivery. The item(s) ni question he paid £5 for and he only shown me proof of one. He told me some models had become bent but these were securely wrapped in bubblewrap and impossible to bend without unwrapping them. When I challenged him with this he didn't mention the models again and I send him £8 refund instead of £12.

He was demanding more money back than he paid. Why would he expect over double payment back for a £5 item for? After all only shown me proof of one damaged item which I am pretty sure could have been repaired. To add salt into the wounds he also gave me a 3 day ultimatum to refund him or he would report me to paypal.

I would be wary with this trader.

Also, that letter, funny that is has the same spelling and grammar errors as SBU's does sent to me.

Nothing personal, but just beware. Someone asking for more money back for a damage item than what they paid is taking the piss if you ask me.


Mod edits: again, as with every Transaction Report, please avoid the name callings and stick to the facts. Thanks

FWIW, I recently did a large trade with SBU several weeks ago, over 200 hundred LotR figures for 23 FoW tanks.

We agreed on a day to ship them out first class recorded, i sent mine and gave him the tracking, he however did not. I gave him another day and sent him several PM's asking when/if he is going to post them. Although i got a slightly offensive response, he did apologise later, he told me he was having problems with one of his kids. Being the nice guy that i am i understood this, i gave him a few days to post them, he did and i received them in perfect condition.

His grammar etc, is poor but readable and he is a very nice guy (he offered to help me with lists and he did). So i do not think that he is trying to 'rip' anyone of, however i was wary of his late posting of the items.

The communication today (The Package Arrived):

From: sbu
To: Pipboy101
Date: 2011/03/30 14:05:53
Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:armorcast
please can i have your email address so i can send pictures as requested as i picked up parcel in my lunch break it has been well battered and there are some minor brerakages but have pick of all and they are easy fixable ( mainly wheels have come of but you will see from pics how battered the box was )

hope to hear from you soon

sbu



From: Pipboy101
To: sbu
Date: 2011/03/30 14:13:50
Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:armorcast
I wonder what the issue was that would cause such box damage? I do understand the wear and tear that international shipping can cause so I made sure to tape it with 4 times the normal amount of packing tape that I would use for domestic shipping just in case a 400 pound gorrilla handles it. By seeing the damage on it I can tell you what caused that damage as I use to work for a couple of airlines also so some international packages do get put on commerical airlines going overseas.

My email is: m!@#$%^&*()1@yahoo.com

I will close my end of the TR and post a +1 for you as soon as the pics arrive.

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I bought 2 armorcast oop chaos engines from SBU.

He offered them for a very nice and fair price and the goods were in perfect condition.

I guess the main problem is sending items from EU/UK to US and US to EU/UK, always ask for tracking and insurance, especially if the item cost is high.

SBU has provided the pictures of the two items I had sent him. However, there was no picture of the box they were shipped in. While I do understand some damage to the box or even to the items in route to the buyer because these items are put on airplanes, boats and even on horseback all depending where they are going the damage to the barrels on these two vehicles are very odd.

The wheels on these vehicles are only glued on with little or nothing else to hold them on so seeimg them off was not a surprise but the barrels. The both look like someone that has never delt with old Armorcast stuff tried to pry the barrel off the Spleenrippa and didn't realise that the body and barrel were one solid piece.

Now the barrel damage to the Gobsmasha mskes me scratch my head. The barrel is not part of the main body and should have come completely off the main hull but the end of the barrel almost looks like out was cut off the vehicle. Very odd damage to both vehicles to say the least.

Now since I am not at my home computer I have not had a chance to inspect the pictures closer yet and only saw them in thumbnail views on my phone. I will post this pictures later today as I stated before that I would. Wish I could haves seen the box they came in and I could have been able just from the pictures what happened to them.

But as I promised earlier I am closing my part of this transaction report. For all those with posts in this transaction report it is still open while your posts are unresolved with SBU.So for both sides please continue to communicate and make sure to keep all communication as transparent as possible with the rest of dakka. Again as soon as I am at a desktop system I will post the pictures for everyones inspection.

Good night and good luck.


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Well, here one of the pictures SBU send. They are so close to each other that I only need to post one:



Communications between the two of us:

SBU's email to me -

please find the pics of the item that i colected yesterday

the box was well beaten up looked like sombody had been playing football with it

could not get a pic of the unopened box as it had already been opened by customs and i again had to open it infront of the postal guy and go through the contants

the breakages as you can see are mainly the component parts i.e the wheels have all come of but they are seperate bits and so the glue has just failed and they can be stuck bac opn the only actual breaks as such as the 2 barrals both are relativly clean braeks and so i imagine that they can be glued back on with little or no fuss

i am slightly disapointed with this but the bother this trade has caused far outwieghs this and i am prepared to overlook these problems just to put an end to this trade so we can both go our seperate ways and you can close the transaction report (that was very hasty and uncalled for but then some people are like that)

many thanks

sbu


From: Pipboy101
To: sbu
Date: 2011/03/31 07:30:57
Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:armorcast
The pictures have arrived and I post one of them to the TR. I have closed out my part of the TR. I will be posting a +1 for you in the Dakka Swap as I promised.



--end of replies--

I closed out my section of the TR as promised.

As Pipboy101 mentions, for those of you with ongoing trades with sbu please continue to post updates here. Please only post if you have relevant, factual information to add about the trades/traders in question.

Edit: Update, sbu will be at least temporarily unable to post here while we follow up on the evidence linked to in this thread, as the actions of recasting and sockpuppeting (creating a second user account, particularly to avoid disciplinary action) are the most serious offenses possible on Dakka. We have also confirmed that Forgeworld is investigating this person for recasting.

Please PM me for his outside contact information if you have an ongoing trade, as he will not be able to receive PMs here.

I was doing some commission work for SBU when he just stopped contacting me through email, dakka, everything. He providided no excuse and I have attempted to contact him several times but to no avail.

After 5th April i will resume work on the commission pieces and sell them on ebay as this was thedeadline and I want to give him as much chance as possible.

PM sent to tantan628 with SBU's email. Hope it helps him get results.

To reiterate, just in case anyone missed it, anyone currently involved in a trade with SBU will need to begin contacting him via email. I can provide it, or the others you have seen posting above. We don't allow the posting of personal information in TRs, hence it not being posted in this thread.

Well I have communicated with SBU a little recently and it is just going in circles. Now I am tired hearing that the tanks I bought are EXACTLY the same as the ones in the pictures I received. So I figured that perhaps Dakka could identify the same differences that I could. The following messages contain the comparisons





At that point I was unaware that gamesroomclearout2010 and SBU were the same person/brothers (has that yet to be determined?)







That is all for now. As stated earlier I would like to know if you guy think they are the same tanks or not.

Can somebody please PM me with SBU's email, it is nearing the end of another week and still nothing in the mail from him, even though he lives in england how is it that I have not gotten the SM codex but he PMed me that he received the DE codex within 2 weeks. I am beginning to think that nothing was sent at all.

I have to agree with you that the items you received are recast. The front grill if the tell tale sign of a recast due to the amount flash. You do have a strong case.

Pipboy101 wrote:I have to agree with you that the items you received are recast. The front grill if the tell tale sign of a recast due to the amount flash. You do have a strong case.

Trust me they are A LOT worse than that. I will likely post more pictures soon.

Pm sent to the night stalker the email address.

I sent him an email telling him of the situation will wait to see if theres a reply, I also did a google search on Tony Heath Recaster, and now I really just have no hope left of getting the dex from him, it seems as though this guy is a professional scammer and a counterfiter. In all I am out about 42$, not the end of the world but I have still been scammed.

::sigh:: I knew it was too good to be true.

I have been in contact with SBU about trading for the very same Grot Tanks sum1thtdiesalot just posted.

PMs:



Reply:




Reply:


After this he switched to e-mail-only. I suspect due to this TR.




Reply

Subject: Re: grot tank pics


Antony,
















This last one is a bit damning as far as what he's telling Pip about his dastardly little brother that he never talks to anymore.

That is all we can do is wait and see sometimes. Keep pressure on him and you might get some results.


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Scratch the basecoat on the bottom of the tank and look at the color of the resin.forge world only uses one color of resin. Just composite it to the website along with where recessed details are this will tel you if it is a recast. I am pretty good at spotting fake Fw, armorcas, epicast and FoW. The devil is in the details.

sum1thtdiesalot, any chance you can cut a portion of a model off and expose the resin underneath? Or scrape off some paint to show that it's not FW gray resin?


edit: great minds think alike, Pip.


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Upon further review of my PMs I had previously received an offer to trade for some Armorcast resin models from SBU also.

Date: 2011/03/17 08:41:16
Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:resin items

the only ork stuff i have are the gomsmashers and spleinrippas

Ok, thank you slave for posting those emails. He sent those using a blackberry when he said he was having an issue with his internet and really did not have another way to get ahold of me or others.

As I said before, the devil is in the details and he made a huge mistake sending those emails without proofreading them. If you are going tell a person whom job was to investigate and find the truth amongst the lies don't leave evidence around or broacast to others involved in a transaction report. Seeing this SBU it is tempting to pull my +1 for you. However, I promised to leave one for you so it stays. So everyone, if he does claim to be having tribble with his home computer internet he has a blackberry so he is not out of touch.


just take a small bit of the paint underneith to expose the resin. Also is any of the paint look like it is wet ourweeping and sticky. That is the sign of a poor resin mixture.

I found this odd little tidbit while scrolling through the messages SBU has posted

"just what i heard from my source at FW (brother works in head office) as for them being limited at the open day last year i was only allowd to by 2 and that was at a push at games day you can buy as many as you like but from past experience at the open day they do limmit the amount bought

also i have been told its a grey knight but my sourse has been wrong in the past (BUT NOT THAT OFTERN) cheers sbu

p.s i will be buying as many as i am aloud if they are grey knights to use as my ghost warriors and pos paladin variants"


- I find it significant that he mentions this "brother" who is suppossed to be the one who committed all of these crimes yet here he says he works for FW? Something isnt right, I have a feeling there is no brother at all.

Just keep on him about your stuff. If we can at least g get all of these deal resolved then the mods and the community can decide what to do about him. I think with all the angles everyone is coming from his stories are cracking. Also with paypal not listening his funding is dried up.

Been 3 1/2 weeks with no sign of my Grey Knights yet.

Keeping my fingers crossed. I hope I can give him a +1 rather than cry myself to sleep over a giant loss.

@Slave
(Was going to abbreviate your ID to STD... but decided otherwise, after typing it LOL).
I think you're hosed.
PayPal is most likely going to side with him, unfortunately.
If you buy a pound of gold and he sends a pound of cow manure, he sent SOMETHING. They have a history of siding AGAINST the complaintant in those cases. You'd have been better off to have never received anything.

Your best bet is to contact Forgeworld... especially if there are multiple people here who received recasts from him.
In the past (with GW models), GW has been known to trade you for the real thing, when possible, and keep the recasts to use when they go after the recaster.

Best of luck, guys!


Eric

MM (your abbreviation is much less amusing...lol)

To be clear, I haven't sent anything to SBU. Luckily I saw this TR and dodged a bullet.

Pip, you're my favorite person! Thanks.

I've met SBU face to face for a trade, I've seen and been offered counterfeit miniatures. Thus guy lives around 15-20 mins from me, thought he was a good guy, traded my SoB army for his orks. Needless to say I traded around 200+ quids worth of sisters for a load of resprayed AoBR models... My own fault for not checking the box while talking in mcdonalds car park in caerwys.

I was offered grot tanks, grot mega tanks and random bases.

If you receive said products from SBU check the bottom of the tracks as he can't cast these and they have become a blob of resin.

I didnt want to believe this thread as he seemed a nice guy, and he had brought his little boy along so I just assumed he was a good family man. Tony if you read this mate, just pack it all in, own up and sort it out now before it goes to far, got your little lad to think of!

Liam