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Frazzled wrote: Frazzled reaction: get yourself 100 - 200 weiner dogs, 10 lbs of beef, and a vehicle. Get out at said store. Throw the beef into the store and hold the door open as the 100 - 200 weiner dogs fly in after it. Quickly back the vehicle up to the doors so people cannot escape. Watch the antics as the weiner dogs go land piranha on all meat sources inside said store. Afterwards use the remains to write "Thats what you GET!" on the door.

May I please add this to my list of quotes to put in my sig?

Definitely sounds as if you are the quiet reserved type....and its time for you to stand up for yourself and your beliefs.

mikhaila wrote:Long and short:

-Call people on rules if they break them, but make sure you know what you're talking about.
-Take your time with your army, ignore people want you to hurry up. Not their models.
-Just stay out of political discussions. If you enter into one, it's your own fault, and not part of why you go to a gaming store.)
-Ditto on religion.
-Probably should skip discussing MTG while focussing on 40k, it'll just rot your brain and suddenly you'll be talking about the polital and regious significance of a netdecking vs. EDH and you'll never roll dice again.
-Putting up with crappy TWC is just something that you have to endure in some stores.

+1, except that EDH is the purer form of magic

In seriousness take your time so that YOU are happy with YOUR models. If they want to waste money botching them together fine. Take your time, create a nice army that will bring you pleasure and joy when you field it.

tehbarry wrote:

Frazzled wrote: Frazzled reaction: get yourself 100 - 200 weiner dogs, 10 lbs of beef, and a vehicle. Get out at said store. Throw the beef into the store and hold the door open as the 100 - 200 weiner dogs fly in after it. Quickly back the vehicle up to the doors so people cannot escape. Watch the antics as the weiner dogs go land piranha on all meat sources inside said store. Afterwards use the remains to write "Thats what you GET!" on the door.

May I please add this to my list of quotes to put in my sig?

Welcome Brother Tehbarry to the New order of things to come, the order of Ze Weiner.

Obsidian Raven wrote:Theres the guy (Who was my first ever opponent when i borrowed an army) who Blatantly bends the rules or outright breaks them. He's a WAAC player.

Put a firm foot down and refuse to play with him.

And some of them put the most minimal effort in their models, like theres a SW player (hes 14) who has TWC on chaos knights horses, with the iconography on, unpainted, and using Ork biker legs as the legs to the space marine. I understand that TWC isnt the easiset model to make, i dont mind they are on horses, but whenever i look at the models, my first though was "He doesnt care about the models" and my second thought is about how i would not want to play against him with those models. theres a guy with models so thickly basecoated (with no coloured paint) that they don't have any detail

This happens. Don't let the GW hobby blog or rulebooks fool you -- most minis you encounter will look horrid, unless you're attending an event that draws painters, or your LGS has a good painter in the community. I think you might be overreacting on this one. 40k is a game and so people aren't firstly concerned with modelling and painting until they play games and realize their minis look like brightly colored turds.

The other problem i have, is im being pressured into rushing my models (which i don't want to do at all, i want to put as much care into them as possible) so i can start playing. The guy running the 40k tells me "they don't have to be painted, they don't have to be WYSIWYG, they dont even have to be fully assembled." This attitude is really bugging me. I'm taking effort to make my guys WYSIWYG. He's pressuring me to rush so that i can start playing. Every week he tells me "Bring an army, it doesnt have to be painted." etc, you get the idea.

Sounds like he's just trying to get you to play and have a good time. Feel free to explain to him that you want your army to be pristine.

Then theres the guy who is just... urgh. He's supposedly my friend, too. Today he blatantly insulted my MTG skills (I'm sure you don't want me to get into that) and then, later, me, the store clerks and him got into a debate about politics, about fascism vs democracy and various other things, and I enjoy this kind of thing. I love politics. He turns to me and said "You don't understand this so you should just shut up." His general attitude is "I'm better than you, and my opinion is the only one that matters" and it seems he tries to put my down every opportunity. This guy who i supposedly my friend (sometimes, he can be really cool. he taught me the basics of 40k, like painting and basic GS skills and such)

This attitude is prevalent amongst competitive gamers. Given that I'm 90% sure neither of you has any pro points, neither of you has the right to put down eachother's MTG skills. You should probably be clear with him -- if he wants to be friendly with you, he had best bugger off with the non-friendly nonsense that accompanies it.

IMO your situation and game store seems entirely typical. Whether or not you continue going to your FLGS is up to you, but remember that you got into gaming to have fun. If you're not having fun, find an environment where you will.

I think just sticking up for yourself might improve things. I know that can be pretty...intense, but you shouldn't ever let anyone treat you like that.