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To be fair, you wouldn't have to modle it that way. The model to the left of that one appears to have dual chain swords, so presumably the set comes with pistol and CCW for each marine.

FM Ninja 048 wrote: *snip*

Really, why do we have to have dual wielding sapce marines.


Although without the jump-pack he would look good leaping behind a table or something similar

Jeeze I dont know.. mabye because its cool looking?


I am however tired of GW/FW ripping off my designs...

I think I like the ones from Chapterhouse better. I like the little airbrakes on theirs.

As a side note, I care not at all about the heresy\preheresy whatever, I sure wish they'd make assault marines troops in the vanilla codex. They look so much more awesome, and yet, so useless.

H.B.M.C. wrote:All I can see is a Pre-Heresy World Eater Assault Squad. There's just something about the way they look...

I still think what I have always thought of the MKIII... pre-heresy Iron Warriors. The MKII is really close in appearance, so... I'm gonna have to say the same.

My main question would be would the Iron Warriors have used jump packs/assault marines, with them being siege specialists?

Chapterhouse's ones look bad.

insaniak wrote:First and only warning for this thread: please stick to the topic, and not try to derail it with the same tired old IP discussions.

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:All I can see is a Pre-Heresy World Eater Assault Squad. There's just something about the way they look...

I still think what I have always thought of the MKIII... pre-heresy Iron Warriors. The MKII is really close in appearance, so... I'm gonna have to say the same.

My main question would be would the Iron Warriors have used jump packs/assault marines, with them being siege specialists?

I've always been of the opinion that Iron Warriors would not use Raptors at all (although i have a squad made out of SM packs and 'zerker bodies that i made for a giggle). Maybe bikes but even then not often. But this is a discussion for another thread i think......

Would be cool to see someone with GS skills take a squad of these and chaos them up into Raptors a la ADB's Night Lords.

Probably wouldn't take much either to be fair. Literally a few helmet swaps and some chaos icons/spikes etc and you're there,

I'd like more than spikes. The Raptor armor is pretty baroque and distinctive. Maybe these wouldn't make a great basis for Raptors after all . . .

I love the crusade era assault marine, can't wait to see MkIII to do up some iron warriors.

They should really have 2 sets of arms (2 handed, 1 handed) so you can have special weapons in each squad rather than all with bolt pistol/chainsword.

Manchu wrote:I'd like more than spikes. The Raptor armor is pretty baroque and distinctive. Maybe these wouldn't make a great basis for Raptors after all . . .

The reason i used Berzerkers as a base is that, after you clip off the stupid "horns" the helmets actually look quite similar to the Raptor ones. I agree that the Raptor packs are nice and should be reproduced in plastic or resin by someone (hint hint)

Some day, probably after I win the powerball, I'll be redoing my marines from scratch in all FW pre-heresy models...

Praxiss wrote:Probably wouldn't take much either to be fair. Literally a few helmet swaps and some chaos icons/spikes etc and you're there,

I am not a fan of the spiky look, especially for raptors. I think they're pretty decent as they are, maybe with some added chaos iconography. But your mileage may vary.

Praxiss wrote:

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:All I can see is a Pre-Heresy World Eater Assault Squad. There's just something about the way they look...

I still think what I have always thought of the MKIII... pre-heresy Iron Warriors. The MKII is really close in appearance, so... I'm gonna have to say the same.

My main question would be would the Iron Warriors have used jump packs/assault marines, with them being siege specialists?

I've always been of the opinion that Iron Warriors would not use Raptors at all (although i have a squad made out of SM packs and 'zerker bodies that i made for a giggle). Maybe bikes but even then not often. But this is a discussion for another thread i think......

That's generally what I've heard and read about them Post-Heresy. I was more wondering about Pre-Heresy.

Basically, I was stating that the first group pictured would make a perfect assault squad for a Pre-Heresy Iron Warrior army, and was wondering if there was any precedent for such a thing, as I haven't found anything in the fluff one way or the other.

Feel free to PM me about it, or we can start a new thread in 40K Discussions to keep this one from going off topic.

These are awesome. I wish I had seen them a few months ago... my Vanguards are wearing the CH ones already. After a new Chaos Codex I will be coming back to these models for sure to expand my Black Legion with some pre-heresy goodness (or is that evilness?).

NICE. They remind me of the old Double Jet Engine Ork Stormboy backpacks. I guess we know where the Orks got their inspiration from. LOL

Manchu wrote:I'd like more than spikes. The Raptor armor is pretty baroque and distinctive. Maybe these wouldn't make a great basis for Raptors after all . . .

Maximus or Corvus armor would be the 'best' basis for Raptors, I think.

Definitely not a fan of the jetpacks though. But that's because they look slightly silly.

H.B.M.C. wrote:If you keep bringing it up Padre someone at GW will take notice and either:

1. Instigate an across-the-board Forgeworld price increase.
or
2. Instigate a separate FW pricing structure for different regions and you'll only be able to get FW products via in-store orders.

And maybe I shouldn't have suggested that... d'oh!

See, don't think of GW's price increase and change to resin as major changes to GW - just think of it as FW taking over GW! FW prices! FW materials! It's all FW, all the time!

As far as the design of the jump packs go - I like the old skool metal turbofan jump packs more than these. I'm disappointed that they don't look more like them.

Even though I'm sore at GW right now I have to say I like them...

Now if they only got around to making models for the Primarchs. I don't see why FW don't do a Heresy Series of books and minis/accessories. All the history is there, the fan base is there & the rules will pretty much write themselves. They'd make loads of money & it will be an exciting and creative thing for GW to do but no. Access Denied

Anyway it's about time they did stuff like this. I just can't afford it - nothing ever changes : (

They probably don't because the Heresy is still being fleshed out right now through the novels.

Plus, to do the Imperial Army would require some kind of absurdly detailed troops wielding weird designs of weapons.

I personally am a big fan of the Mk III armor. So to see assault MK II is pretty cool. I love the gothic knight look of the MK II & III helmets. If I had the money I would do an entire SM army in Mk II-III armor.

I like them. I like them so much. /forrest gump

Nice minis. Not a big fan of the metal Raptor models.

Can someone explain to me the fascination of having steel pimples on the helmet?
Looks just weird to me ... or Nurglish.

Kroothawk wrote:Can someone explain to me the fascination of having steel pimples on the helmet?
Looks just weird to me ... or Nurglish.

The steel studs are a bad case of "steel studs look SM retro!!!"

Meh. More Marines. Still no Nurgle Chaos Warrior kits.

Kanluwen wrote:They probably don't because the Heresy is still being fleshed out right now through the novels.

That, and they're not actually doing a 'Pre-Heresy' line. They're just doing different armour Marks.

warspawned wrote:Now if they only got around to making models for the Primarchs. (

Hey Warp,

Have you seen these?

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=cat&cre=min-kbk-kol

Also, there are are a lot of versions of the Primarchs available on eBay in various materials (resins or metal) of various qualities.

I bought a white resin version of the pre-Heresy Emperor just recently, and it easily matches, if not surpasses, Forgeworld quality.

Padre^.

Loving these.

Only problem is FW quality control.

YMMV

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

Really, why do we have to have dual wielding sapce marines.


Although without the jump-pack he would look good leaping behind a table or something similar

Deathwatch sucker.