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Polonius wrote:During the 2004 election, we were discussing the possiblity of electing a US President that had killed enemies in a firefight, which led to a discussion of presidents that had actually killed men.

We got around around to Jackson, and somebody joked that "Jackson shot a man just to watch him die."

To which my friend added: "at a state dinner."

That level of wit isn't permitted in Ohio.

Polonius wrote:During the 2004 election, we were discussing the possiblity of electing a US President that had killed enemies in a firefight, which led to a discussion of presidents that had actually killed men.

We got around around to Jackson, and somebody joked that "Jackson shot a man just to watch him die."

To which my friend added: "at a state dinner."

Lots of presidents or candidates have killed others, you don't need to go as far back as Jackson.

McCain, George H.W. Bush, Dole, Ted Kennedy...

Although Ike would probably take the cake for most deaths, even if he wasn't the trigger man.

My nation has not had many bad ass leaders, more's the pity. (not counting the 800 years of british rule, where we had all the badass leaders they did. I'm thinking more homegrown)

But this guy didn't do TOO bad, while he lasted. For a priest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_John_Murphy

George fething Washington.

biccat wrote:
McCain, George H.W. Bush, Dole, Ted Kennedy...

Say what?

Snarky wrote:Probably this guy...

So your a Roman?

Check the OP.


Winston Churchill > Teddy Roosevelt > anyone else from the last 200 years

Roosevelt was impressive, but if anyone stated up Churchill's character sheet changing a name or two to disguise him they would be reviled as a munchkin powergamer with no sense of proportion.
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Holy ****

What about Arthur. If you believe the stories were true. Also Lionheart and Robin Hood.

King Canute. He got so fed up with his sycophantic advisors he banned the tide from coming in and wetting him in order to prove that no man, even a king, is infallible.

yani wrote:King Canute. He got so fed up with his sycophantic advisors he banned the tide from coming in and wetting him in order to prove that no man, even a king, is infallible.

David Mitchell FTW!!!

Azza007 wrote:What about Arthur. If you believe the stories were true. Also Lionheart and Robin Hood.

...Robin Hood was a character created to sell clothes and make their manufacture's guild famous, as is Arthur fictional (or if he did exist he was just a warlord that fought the saxons). Richard was only in England for six monthes of his life, spoke French and levied heavy taxes for his self indulgent crusades (yup royalty are gits). ^^

Wyrmalla wrote:

Azza007 wrote:What about Arthur. If you believe the stories were true. Also Lionheart and Robin Hood.

...Robin Hood was a character created to sell clothes and make their manufacture's guild famous, as is Arthur fictional (or if he did exist he was just a warlord that fought the saxons). Richard was only in England for six monthes of his life, spoke French and levied heavy taxes for his self indulgent crusades (yup royalty are gits). ^^

Richard was a crap king...
Good general, but a crap king.

I'll be that guy.

Yeah, I know I'm not Greek, but the man deserves a mention.

purplefood wrote:

Wyrmalla wrote:

Azza007 wrote:What about Arthur. If you believe the stories were true. Also Lionheart and Robin Hood.

...Robin Hood was a character created to sell clothes and make their manufacture's guild famous, as is Arthur fictional (or if he did exist he was just a warlord that fought the saxons). Richard was only in England for six monthes of his life, spoke French and levied heavy taxes for his self indulgent crusades (yup royalty are gits). ^^

Richard was a crap king...
Good general, but a crap king.

Yup, spoilt git by any standard (and known as Richard the Bast*rd amongst those he invaded).

I was upset when I realised this was not a thread called Bad-Ass Cheerleaders. We should have a thread like that.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I was upset when I realised this was not a thread called Bad-Ass Cheerleaders. We should have a thread like that.

Go now!
Be thread making!

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I was upset when I realised this was not a thread called Bad-Ass Cheerleaders. We should have a thread like that.

What having old Maggie cropping up here doesn't fulfill that?

Wyrmalla wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I was upset when I realised this was not a thread called Bad-Ass Cheerleaders. We should have a thread like that.

What having old Maggie cropping up here doesn't fulfill that?

There is a special place in hell reserved for people that bring up mental images like that...

Scotland?

Pretty much yeah...

Ah to feel that warm feeling of pure hatred whenever the name of that women is uttored. It tides us through the harsh winters mind. ^^

+1 for Andrew Jackson.
+1 for Teddy

Wyrmalla wrote:Ah to feel that warm feeling of pure hatred whenever the name of that women is uttored. It tides us through the harsh winters mind. ^^

Have you seen Frankie Boyle's rant about her funeral?

snurl wrote:Dwight Eisenhower

+1, a true USA patriot.

Heh, yeah, and its now became government policy with Alex Salmond being re-elected.

I like him...
Though the whole free Scotland thing isn't so hot...
Lets not get into that here though.

Yup. There was already a thread concerning the issue and it just ended up with people bashing the Scots-without any actual scots contributing to it by my recollection. Heh, anyway, I vote Alex Salmond for his epic national television presenting skills alongside the fat ginger bird. ^^

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:
McCain, George H.W. Bush, Dole, Ted Kennedy...

Say what?

Presidential candidates who have killed people. Obviously McCain and Bush would be by aircraft rather than during a firefight, but Dole killed people in combat (before getting a grenade to the shoulder). Kennedy is more "vehicular manslaughter" than "combat veteran," but he fits in the list.

Also I know McGovern was a vet, but I don't think he personally killed anyone.

i remember the thread but not its demise...
Ahh well...
What happens will happen i suppose.
That said Wales Scotland and Ireland really should have had their freedom after WWII if they had wanted it back then.