Another Gue'Vesa ruleset

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**DAaddict**

While I agree the core problem of the Tau are the #$%^^ nature of Fire Warriors and Gue'vesa are just another mask to their problem. Fix the Firewarrior...

Now to get off my soapbox. My problem with basing human defectors off of veterans is a problem. As stated if
the average human is basically a 3 across the board I have a problem with defectors - which should be a solid minority - getting any outstanding stats like a 4 or a Ld 9.

**Ovion**

I really only have 1 problem with this, and it's a pretty major one I'm surprised no-ones picked up on yet:

You have them listed as a Fast Attack option which they are really, really not in any way shape or form at all whatsoever.

If they HAD to be mounted in the transport, then they would be FA, if they were jump troops or bike / mounted troops again they would be, but these are Troops or maybe Elites / Heavy support, they certainly don't fill a FA slot.

Oh - and BS4 could in theory be explained away by the advanced tau tech giving them that 1 point BS boost.

Also - you have to bear in mind your average guardsmans statline, and cost. I'd personally switch it to something like:

Spoiler:

**acekevin8412**

I like your idea Ovion. So this is settled then? I'm going to check out the old Fixing the Fire Warrior thread because DAaddict and the others were right. The current problem of the Tau, ignoring costs, is the usefulness, or lack thereof, of the Fire Warrior. Since that thread was made back in 2010 and is not locked, would anyone that have been following this thread like it if I restarted that old one after I have a read through?

**moom241**

And @moom241:
You are entitled to your own opinion, am what I am going to say is not supposed to be confrontational at all. You are right that the Tau probably do value the life of a Tau more than that of a subject race, however, I don't think this means they are going to needlessly execute them, the way commissars do.

You have me there. I hope I haven't been too offensive.

**Ovion**

On a thought I'd also be tempted to limit the Gue'Vesa squads to 1 per Firewarrior squad.

**acekevin8412**

Just wondering, would has anyone ever tested making pulse rifles Heavy2 and Pulse Carbine Assault2? I have heard that idea floating around the internet and never play tested it. Would that small change help improve the Fire Warrior?

**Che-Vito**

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