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I'm pretty sure the Inquistion has authority over everything that isn't the Emperor, so if you had a puritanical witch-hunter, then yeah, they would probably be purged.

hexra wrote:Minotaurs or some other chapter could forseeably take the Dark Angels by surprise.

So lets take the rest of the Unforgiven out of the equation, lets take every chapter that would take the side of a First Founding chapter instead of the Minators, lets take away all the support a First Founding chapter has earned over the 10,000 of existance.

IF the Minators could suprise assault a portion of the Dark Angels (chapters rarely deploy on mass) the Minators will then have one of the IoM most powerful and well defended warp capable vessels, The Rock, knocking on their fortress monestry. Just the Dark Angels on their own would whip the Minators into submission.

hellspawn22 wrote:I'm pretty sure the Inquistion has authority over everything that isn't the Emperor, so if you had a puritanical witch-hunter, then yeah, they would probably be purged.

The Inquisition isn't stupid (or a united orgaisation) the IoM is all about the power plays with the IoM being made up of amassive number of competing organisations, that are all made of competing officials, do you know how idiotic an official would have to be to even bring up the idea of purging a First Founding chapter =''hi guys, I have a great way of starting another civil war that will rip the IoM apart''.

hellspawn22 wrote:I'm pretty sure the Inquistion has authority over everything that isn't the Emperor, so if you had a puritanical witch-hunter, then yeah, they would probably be purged.

The Inquisition might theoretically have jurisdiction over almost anyone (the Astartes are on the border if I recall correctly (being semi-autonomous), I doubt the Adeptus Mechancius would brook unwarranted interference, and the High Lords would almost certainly be safe), but they have to have proof to back up their accusations. Even with proof of the Fallen, it's unlikely he'd be able to rally enough support to be able to take out a normal Chapter, let alone a First Founding Chapter.

Well, last time there was a civil war, back with Vandire, it brought about some pretty needed changes. So maybe not a puritanical Inquisitor, but a radical one.

Well, for quite a few of them, I'm sure guilt over their complicity in the treachery keeps them from doing so. Plus, information flows slowly in the Imperium, so even if they made such a broadcast and people actually believed it, the DA would probably Exterminatus the planet real quick.

And so they would further implicate themselves in heresy and betrayal, leading even less people to want them around.

BluntmanDC wrote:The Inquisition isn't stupid (or a united orgaisation) the IoM is all about the power plays with the IoM being made up of amassive number of competing organisations, that are all made of competing officials, do you know how idiotic an official would have to be to even bring up the idea of purging a First Founding chapter =''hi guys, I have a great way of starting another civil war that will rip the IoM apart''.

Well, at least one subfaction of the Inquisition believes the Imperium is strengthened through conflict, so would love to pull off something exactly like that.

Because the Fallen are the goodies and the Dark Angels are the baddies in this situation, obviously

As has been mentioned before, I am sure that occationally happens, but either the DA catch them and silence them before the information comes out, or nobody believes them.

Besides, honestly, I doubt most inquisitors would do much about it in the first place. The DA currently work for the emperor most of the time. If an inquisitor knows their secret, he would propably keep it as blackmail material for the future. The imperium at large simply would ignore the words of heretics.

I mean, come on, I am sure most crafty chaos legions have attempted misinformation and smear campaigns against loyalists one time or another, I doubt the inquisition are so trusting as to instantly act upon such rumors.

I don't know, I've heard of Inquisitors doing a lot of bad things based on hearsay alone.

Both the Blood Angels and the Space Wolves have openly fought against inquisitorial forces before... wiped them out, and are still doing just fine. So even IF some Inquisitor somewhere was convinced the DA were bad and took action against them... that really doesn't mean it would have any long term effect on the DA.

what about using this as a way to recruit. tell the Minators or another chapter about the fallen then after they smash themselves against the Dark Angels the Fallen save the surviors and recruit them into their ranks.

Lobukia wrote:Both the Blood Angels and the Space Wolves have openly fought against inquisitorial forces before... wiped them out, and are still doing just fine.

Citation please.

Redshade wrote:tell the Minators or another chapter about the fallen then after they smash themselves against the Dark Angels the Fallen save the surviors and recruit them into their ranks.

How likely do you think it is that the Minotaurs (aren't they supposed to be rather close to the Inquisition anyway? Who likely wouldn't want the Dark Angels to be destroyed.) or another loyal Chapter would attack the First Legion on the word of a traitor? There would have to be a lot of proof presented for anyone to stand against the Dark Angels.

Minotaurs = BFFs to the High Lords of Terra.

Omegus wrote:

Lobukia wrote:Both the Blood Angels and the Space Wolves have openly fought against inquisitorial forces before... wiped them out, and are still doing just fine.

Citation please.

Although i don't know a citation for that, in the old space wolves codex it tell of very open hostility and out right naval combat between the Wolves and the Admin.

The Administratum is not the Inquisition.

Also, just because one Inquisitor goes off half-cocked and gets himself into a shooting match with some Space Marines does not mean the Inquisition, as a whole, has declared war on that Chapter.

It's not in the current DA Codex, but in the 3rd ed book, it mentions that Inqs that visit the Rock are either actively blocked from accessing certain parts whilst being constantly under guard or have a habit of "disappearing". Of course, that book still mentions their disdain for abhumans and aliens, something that also doesn't really appear in the newer version.