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As the ONLY openly Jewish person posting on the thread, I can tell you that the whole "Jews run the world" myth is bs. Even further, anyone who thinks this is so far up their own donkey-caves that they believe the sky is a nice shade of brown. People like your brother and Warpcrafter believe in these myths because they want someone to blame for things. My people have been scapegoats for thousands of years, and it's easy for this world of Anti-Semites to say "Jews caused 9/11!" or "Jews run the world!"
Also, Warpcrafter, do you have any evidence? Any at all? Because I would love to see this science.
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Chowderhead wrote:As the ONLY Jew posting on the thread, I can tell you that the whole "Jews run the world" myth is bs. Even further, anyone who thinks this is so far up their own donkey-caves that they believe the sky is a nice shade of brown. People like your brother and Warpcrafter believe in these myths because they want someone to blame for things. My people have been scapegoats for thousands of years, and it's easy for this world of Anti-Semites to say "Jews caused 9/11!" or "Jews run the world!"
Also, Warpcrafter, do you have any evidence? Any at all? Because I would love to see this science.
How do you know you are the only Jew in this thread?
Chowderhead wrote:As the ONLY Jew posting on the thread, I can tell you that the whole "Jews run the world" myth is bs. Even further, anyone who thinks this is so far up their own donkey-caves that they believe the sky is a nice shade of brown. People like your brother and Warpcrafter believe in these myths because they want someone to blame for things. My people have been scapegoats for thousands of years, and it's easy for this world of Anti-Semites to say "Jews caused 9/11!" or "Jews run the world!"
Also, Warpcrafter, do you have any evidence? Any at all? Because I would love to see this science.
How do you know you are the only Jew in this thread?
It's a guess. I'm the only openly Jewish person posting, I guess that would be better.
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romegamer wrote:Today, my brother, who I have never been close with, made the most disgusting and revolting remark I have ever heard leave his mouth. We were watching the news at my fathers house, and there was something or other about Israli Palestinian conflict on TV. All of a sudden, he says "The Jews control everything" I was dumfounded, I could not believe it. I knew this kind of thinking still existed in the world, but not here, in small town America, and not in my own family. I immedeately challenged him with evidence and historical fact, I suppose in his mind, this equates to "The Jews control everything". This offended me so much as an American, and as a human being, that I have decided I no longer consider him my brother, he is dead to me. With his ridiculous bigotry he assumes that every jewish person, everywhere, holds the same beleifs and same goals, and has some mission to control the government, which is of course a steaming pile of B.S. Judaism, like every religion, varies greatly in the beliefs of its members. This is the same kind of thinking that led to the holocaust, and every other genocide when applied to other ethnic groups. I think that whenever someone says this, everyone must challenge them, or they are just as responsible. I am equally angry at my father for not taking a stand with me. I realize this is America, and everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but this cannot stand unchallenged. I am 20, and a full time college student/athlete. He is 27, and lives in my fathers basement, and has no college degree, just to give you an idea of the situation. Am I over reacting? I am sorry if this ends up as an out of control thread, but I wanted peoples opinions.
Honestly, it was a pretty terrible thing for him to say. But really, your reaction is pretty awful also. You are acting like your brother is going to run off and start a revolution. The man is obviously just stupid. You hear stupid things every day. Do you go nuts on them? Or is it just because he is your brother?
You admit to never being close to your brother, probably because of family reasons. But lets face it, maybe his current situation is a result of your parents separating. Stop freaking out, take a deep breath. Maybe get to know your brother a little better.
Monster Rain wrote:Where do you read this information, I wonder?
I'm not joking. I would like to know where this information can be found.
Executive Intelligence Review, probably. According to Larouche and his minions, the British Empire still exists behind the scenes, pulling the strings. Plus some stuff about Jews and the Queen being an international dope-dealer. Oh, and 9/11? Yeah, we Brits did that, apparently.
Chowderhead wrote:As the ONLY openly Jewish person posting on the thread....
Woah, you're openly jewish? What was it like coming out to your parents? Do you struggle for acceptance?
Actually, I do. Being Jewish in my town is like being gay. It's almost worse, now that homophobia is going down. Do you know how many pennies are thrown daily at my school? Do you realize how many times I have heard "Oh, Felsi, you're jewish? But you don't have a big nose!"?
It's horrible.
Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats.
Chowderhead wrote:As the ONLY openly Jewish person posting on the thread....
Woah, you're openly jewish? What was it like coming out to your parents? Do you struggle for acceptance?
Actually, I do. Being Jewish in my town is like being gay. It's almost worse, now that homophobia is going down. Do you know how many pennies are thrown daily at my school? Do you realize how many times I have heard "Oh, Felsi, you're jewish? But you don't have a big nose!"?
It's horrible.
Collect all the pennies, use them to buy a baseball bat and end the stereotype for yourself
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warpcrafter wrote:The OP's brother obviously has a slight hint of the truth, but he is settling for an oversimplification. In the 4th century AD, a whole big group of people from southern eastern Europe called the Khazars converted to Judaism en mass. They have always been distinct from the Sephardic jews, who are actually descendants of the twelve tribes of Israel. The Khazars mostly escaped the Holocaust because most of them left Europe before Hitler started rounding up Jews, and lots of them went to the US. They spent hundreds of years marrying into influential families and changing their names so that by the 15th century they were established in all of the powerful families of Europe, and they eventually did the same in America. They pretty much do control everything, through the massive number of lobbyists that they send to hammer the whores in congress and the house of representatives with tons of money, to the point that the whole American government is pretty much in their back pocket. So it's not the real Jews who control everything, it's a bunch of evil, greedy posers who control everything. Not much better, because they use the threat of the label of antisemitism to smear anyone who speaks out against them.
Even if this was true, the problem is people being greedy, it has nothing to do with their religion.
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romegamer wrote:Today, my brother, who I have never been close with, made the most disgusting and revolting remark I have ever heard leave his mouth. We were watching the news at my fathers house, and there was something or other about Israli Palestinian conflict on TV. All of a sudden, he says "The Jews control everything" I was dumfounded, I could not believe it. I knew this kind of thinking still existed in the world, but not here, in small town America, and not in my own family. I immedeately challenged him with evidence and historical fact, I suppose in his mind, this equates to "The Jews control everything". This offended me so much as an American, and as a human being, that I have decided I no longer consider him my brother, he is dead to me. With his ridiculous bigotry he assumes that every jewish person, everywhere, holds the same beleifs and same goals, and has some mission to control the government, which is of course a steaming pile of B.S. Judaism, like every religion, varies greatly in the beliefs of its members. This is the same kind of thinking that led to the holocaust, and every other genocide when applied to other ethnic groups. I think that whenever someone says this, everyone must challenge them, or they are just as responsible. I am equally angry at my father for not taking a stand with me. I realize this is America, and everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but this cannot stand unchallenged. I am 20, and a full time college student/athlete. He is 27, and lives in my fathers basement, and has no college degree, just to give you an idea of the situation. Am I over reacting? I am sorry if this ends up as an out of control thread, but I wanted peoples opinions.
Honestly, it was a pretty terrible thing for him to say. But really, your reaction is pretty awful also. You are acting like your brother is going to run off and start a revolution. The man is obviously just stupid. You hear stupid things every day. Do you go nuts on them? Or is it just because he is your brother?
You admit to never being close to your brother, probably because of family reasons. But lets face it, maybe his current situation is a result of your parents separating. Stop freaking out, take a deep breath. Maybe get to know your brother a little better.
Maybe you are right, and I should be trying to help him. He holds similar views about other groups who are different from him too. It is just such a horrible thing to hear it's shameful.
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The fact that we managed to come up with bacon is the only thing that keeps my belief in humanity from dying out.
That and cake, and ice cream; whoever thought of putting the ingredients together to make those was a genius, as was the person who mixed them both and then added bacon.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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Avatar 720 wrote:The fact that we managed to come up with bacon is the only thing that keeps my belief in humanity from dying out.
That and cake, and ice cream; whoever thought of putting the ingredients together to make those was a genius, as was the person who mixed them both and then added bacon.
Cake Batter (Ice Cream with bits of cooked cake in it)/Bacon Ice cream? They have that?
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Monster Rain wrote:I wish the Jews did run the world.
I'd be able to get a decent bagel on the west coast.
I laughed at this, I must admit.
The reason people believe Jews control the world, is because they tend to be well-educated, among the middle class to upper class and wield a relatively large percentage of the numbers of influential and powerful people in the world throughout history that is disproportionate to their actual numbers.
Historically speaking, in the middle ages, this was because most professions were barred to them. A Jew could not be employed by a Catholic, could not be apprenticed into one of the trades, could not own land, and so on. There were whole swathes of Anti-Semitic laws across Europe. One of the few areas in which Jews were not openly barred however, was that of money lending. That's where the stereotype of Jews being obsessed with money originates from.
Of course, as time passed, laws changed, and Anti-Semitism became less rife, those years of handling money and banking and the like meant that Jewish groups tended to have access to larger funds than their goyim brethren. In somewhere like America, with lobbying groups and the such, where money makes everything go round, this results in a larger than usual influence, that is again, disproportionate to their actual numbers.
There is always a grain of truth to stereotypes, and with a decent education and half a brain, one can usually see what it is, and where it comes from.
Chowderhead wrote:As the ONLY openly Jewish person posting on the thread....
Woah, you're openly jewish? What was it like coming out to your parents? Do you struggle for acceptance?
Actually, I do. Being Jewish in my town is like being gay. It's almost worse, now that homophobia is going down. Do you know how many pennies are thrown daily at my school? Do you realize how many times I have heard "Oh, Felsi, you're jewish? But you don't have a big nose!"?
It's horrible.
I wont lie, that made me laugh pretty good. Stereotypes I find funny, because people TRULY believe in them. I do however, feel for ya chowder, a buddy of mine is Jewish, and works as a cook/cashier at the Target down the street and he not only gets the typical money jokes when handling peoples cash, but gets the food jokes as well. And worst yet, his nose is a little large. Just be thankful you dont have all 3 of those traits
Monster Rain wrote:I wish the Jews did run the world.
I'd be able to get a decent bagel on the west coast.
I laughed at this, I must admit.
The reason people believe Jews control the world, is because they tend to be well-educated, among the middle class to upper class and wield a relatively large percentage of the numbers of influential and powerful people in the world throughout history that is disproportionate to their actual numbers.
Historically speaking, in the middle ages, this was because most professions were barred to them. A Jew could not be employed by a Catholic, could not be apprenticed into one of the trades, could not own land, and so on. There were whole swathes of Anti-Semitic laws across Europe. One of the few areas in which Jews were not openly barred however, was that of money lending. That's where the stereotype of Jews being obsessed with money originates from.
Of course, as time passed, laws changed, and Anti-Semitism became less rife, those years of handling money and banking and the like meant that Jewish groups tended to have access to larger funds than their goyim brethren. In somewhere like America, with lobbying groups and the such, where money makes everything go round, this results in a larger than usual influence, that is again, disproportionate to their actual numbers.
There is always a grain of truth to stereotypes, and with a decent education and half a brain, one can usually see what it is, and where it comes from.
+1
That's a pretty fair statement. No one can argue that when it comes to lobbying AIPAC is the tops. The only time that the congress and senate seem to be able to agree is when it comes to Israel.
"Jews run the world" that statement is ignorant and stupid, a more accurate statement would be "many powerful people happen to be Jewish".
I’d say a bit more emphatically that, Yes, Jews have a 3,000-year history of story telling, a skillset that comes in quite handy in Hollywood. The clearest example of this, obviously, is the Bible, followed, though not too closely, by “The Big Lebowski.”
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