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Monster Rain wrote:What is an LGBT travel destination, I wonder?

Places where gay marriage is legal, places with large LGBT communities, the aforementioned major LGBT events. This is the type of thing Orbitz et al do all the time for major sporting events, conventions, and the like. Its usually what that little "promotional code" field is for when you order online.

As silly as I think the discount is, Orbitz is a privately owned company, they can offer whatever kinds of discount or deals they want.

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:

Ma55ter_fett wrote:Freaking love taco's

Softshell all the way man, those others cut my mouth.

? Maybe you are looking for the favourite foods thread there dude, derailed my chain of thought there in spectacular style!

Hey now, anything the OP brings up in his post is fair game for me to bring up in mine.

What sort of deals are they offering?
Would it be bi one get one free?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:What sort of deals are they offering?
Would it be bi one get one free?

coolyo294 wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:What sort of deals are they offering?
Would it be bi one get one free?

Chibi's puns are awesome!

Zefig wrote:We're not talking racism though, we're talking discrimination.

Ah yes, you're right. Careless reading on my part.


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biccat wrote:The effect of the ban is to purposefully disadvantage people of a certain race/religion/sexual orientation in order to create an advantage for others. I think this is wrong.

This is very true if we assume that without any kind of government intervention, there'd be no advantages to any race. We know just by looking at average income levels that isn't true.

And so we come to idea of discrimination to offset other discrimination that's already in place.


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Jordan wrote:As silly as I think the discount is, Orbitz is a privately owned company, they can offer whatever kinds of discount or deals they want.

That isn't true. When you open up to trade with the general public, you open yourself up to trade with the whole of the public, and you can't pick and choose based on race, gender or sexual preference unless that is directly relevant to the service you're providing.

I still find it funny that people who say "all discrimination is bad" do not come out in opposition to discrimination in favor of straight people.

It's almost as if they didn't believe what they had to say.

Edit: For spelling because I broke my left hand.

biccat wrote:
The effect of the ban is to purposefully disadvantage people of a certain race/religion/sexual orientation in order to create an advantage for others. I think this is wrong.

That was also likely the purpose of the ban.

But if the purpose of a ban might be to help a disadvantaged class, and that ban eventually ended up being infective (because no ban can ever have its effects assessed immediately) would said ban be good or bad? And when might said assessment be legitimate?

Its almost like things might be complicated.

The greatness of America is that Orbitz (chewing gum?) can do what they want with their priceing. I find it kind of erking so many places have done away with military discounts but thats another story. Look at african american only colleges though, if there were a caucasian only college there would be an outrage. What if orbitz have a heterosexual only discount?
It all sounds nice on looking on the other side of the fence but generally it looks like trash on yours.

Monster Rain wrote:Everyone should just book a trip through orbitz, say they're gay, and get the discount! What are they going to do, make you suck a to see whether or not you're lying? Everyone wins!

It's not gay if it's for discounted airline tickets.

I still find it funny that people who say "all discrimination is bad" do not come out in opposition to discrimination in favor of straight people.

Nice one Dogma!

I can see there could be occassions for "positive" discrimination, but generally have to agree with Newabortion.
Any form of discrimination doesn't feel right. This just seems like some form of jolly outing and I don't really understand why it is necessary
Why should someone have to declare their sexual orientation to get a discount?

dogma wrote:I still find it funny that people who say "all discrimination is bad" do not come out in opposition to discrimination in favor of straight people.

It's almost as if they didn't believe what they had to say.

What sort of "discrimination in favor of straight people" are you talking about? I would assume those that you're referring to who think "all discrimination is bad" would agree that "all discrimination is bad, even when it benefits straights."

I would also suggest that "all discrimination is bad" does not necessarily lead to the conclusion "and the government should do something about it."

dogma wrote:But if the purpose of a ban might be to help a disadvantaged class, and that ban eventually ended up being infective (because no ban can ever have its effects assessed immediately) would said ban be good or bad? And when might said assessment be legitimate?

My goodness, what an excellent question. It's almost like we should evaluate the merits of government sanctioned discrimination affirmative action programs.

Of course my answer would be that such a ban is always bad, regardless of it's effects.

sebster wrote:

That isn't true. When you open up to trade with the general public, you open yourself up to trade with the whole of the public, and you can't pick and choose based on race, gender or sexual preference unless that is directly relevant to the service you're providing.

I thought a company reserve the right to deal with whomever they choose? You often see the caveat on placards and signs in various shops over here - 'Management reserve the right to refuse sale'.

Its probably not good business sense to exclude large portions of your core market purely on something trivial like sexual preference but I'm not so sure its illegal.

filbert wrote:
I thought a company reserve the right to deal with whomever they choose? You often see the caveat on placards and signs in various shops over here - 'Management reserve the right to refuse sale'.

***Unless it contravenes federal, state, or local law. Congress has enacted a plethora of legislation under post Civil War Amendments and the Commerce Clause that restrict such right.