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They don't.I am just trying to explain myself.

I don't hate the space bar,I just don't believe it is correct to use it after every mark you make on paper,so to speak.

GW have extreme inconsistencies,saying this weapon can kill,but this other one can't,yet saying that they all work the same in fluff,just takes the cake.

I was convinced that they are related in some way.I still am,but I won't continue this discussion.Can I have this thread locked up or something?

Proper punctuation is preferred on this site. While yours isn't horrible compared to others, it would be nice if you used spaces(because you are supposed to put a space between words and most punctuation marks)


Custodes don't have any rules so you can't draw any similarities from the rules.


NFWs have daemonbane not because they are force weapons, but because the weapon is purpose built to poison warp things. regular old Force Weapons are designed to channel a psyker's warp power into the weapon to make it more deadly to things made of flesh and bone.

Daemons aren't vulnerable in the same way that a normal creature is. Normal bodies will die to loss of blood or Hydrostatic shock, Daemons won't. Daemons die when their connection to the material plane is severed. a Nemisis Force Weapon has had additional properties put into it to cause daemons to become destabilized. the Force Weapon ID effect and Daemonbane are totally different.

Yet you use it between words? It's grammatically correct to use it after commas, it simply makes things easier to read. You're not doing a very good job to be fair. Instead of jumping from one point to the other, actually explain why you think they're connected.
It has fluff inconsistencies, but everything falls into place once you accept that the Fluff=/=Game Rules.

I accept that. There are fluff inconsistencies. I have no more to say. I will find a connection, eventually, possibly in 14th ed,but I WILL find it.

No you wont.

There is no connection. Accept it and move on to better things.

I can't. I am a stubborn guy. I don't quit, even if I know I can't prove it.

All Hail Deadshot's Great Crusade!!!


while you are at it, pick up the Elixer of Life. and I seem to have lost my piece of Unobtainium, its very expensive and rare so could you please look for it?

Deadshot wrote:

I was convinced that they are related in some way.

By whom?

Deadshot wrote:
.Can I have this thread locked up or something?

Ask one of the Mods.

Grey Templar wrote:All Hail Deadshot's Great Crusade!!!


while you are at it, pick up the Elixer of Life. and I seem to have lost my piece of Unobtainium, its very expensive and rare so could you please look for it?

I will give it a go.

We know the origins of both ARE different

We know they aren't the same (in time, location, or substance).

You might as well insist that Edlar are actually reborn Space Marines... while it is possible that a later edition might support this, it is so improbable that it would be a worthless position to take.

Just curious, who on earth thought that GK and Custodes were the same and what was the basis for their position (the GK and Custodes have been around since the RT days and have NEVER EVER been the same).

I did,and the OP is there,have a look.

Deadshot wrote:I didn't, and the OP is there, as I didn't actually read your post, which is weird, since that is what I'm accusing you of, have a look.

Fixed for English language and truth... moving on

Deadshot wrote:I did,and the OP is there,have a look.

I think Lobukia was asking if someone had... started, your theory or you managed to come up with it all by your lonesome...

Sorry,no I came up with idea while reading First Heretic.

Well there you go then.

Deadshot wrote:

Azza007 wrote:I think the OP needs to drop this theory of his as there is no evidence supporting it and plenty against as has been shown.

Deadshot wrote:I will drop this for now

I tried!


It supporsts itself in my mind.Good enough for me.

I think that what Dakka wishes to array against this is best represen!ed like so:

BACK DOWN, YOUR OPINION IS WRONG AND UNSUBSTANTIATED. YOU HAVE UNLEASHED MY NERD RAGE. YOUR PERSONAL THOUGHTS ARE INTERFERING WITH MY QUALITY OF LIFE. I CANNOT LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE SOMEONE PERCEIVES MY TOY SOLDIERS DIFFERENTLY FROM MYSELF. YOU CAN'T EVEN PUNCTUATE PROPERLY. BACK DOWN. SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE. OR ELSE YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY INTERNETS!

Srsly, I think this theory is moronic but the fanatacism being displayed by my fellow basement-dwellers is rather shocking. Talk about tetchy eh? And why do all internet 'discussions' boil down to conversations about grammar...

Fanaticism?
You clearly haven't seen half the 'discussions' that happen on Dakka.
This is relatively low key compared to them.

Sure, does that make it any less pitiful from an outside perspective

Not that I'm going to assume some position of superiority, I love making fluff-nabs hang on my triple dots as much as the next guy. Just decided to take a step back on this one.

I mean the premise of this post is ridiculous and I do think OP needs to back down and accept that it's totally unsubstantiated... but to get wound up about it? WHAT HAVE WE BECOME?!

I just want people to leave it.Let me deal with this,as no one agrees with me.It is highly improbable that they are related,but the similarities are enough to give me a small hope of finding a connection.

Don't respond,just leave and look at other stuff.

You were the one who posted the topic on a public forum. Anyone and Everyone has the right to post in this topic(following the Dakka user policy)

You can't say "If you don't agree with me, don't respond", especially when you asked everyone's opinion on the subject.

Custodes are not Grey Knights
Custodes are not Astrates.
Custodes train in a personnel fashion not as a squad.
Custodes are not pyskers.
Custodes are older.
Custodes wear golden armor.
Custodes have different ranks.
Custodes have the Aquallia for their symbol.
The Custodes are the bodyguards of the emperor and the palace.
The Custodes have red capes.
The Custodes have spears with guns on the top.
The Custodes fought in the great crusade.
The custodes fought at almost every major event in the Horus Hersey.
They do not listen to Malcador.
They don't give a crap about pyskers. Except the one they protect.
They are artificially born.
How could you think they are the same?

I have yet to see any similarities apart from metallic coloured armour.

Azza007 wrote:I have yet to see any similarities apart from metallic coloured armour.

One is Gray, one is Crimson and Gold.
Haha really hard to see any difference apart from their 'halberds'

Maybe the Grey Knights are actually loyalist Word Bearers. The Imperial Cult started with them, the Grey Knights uphold it and even have a similar icon plus Lorgar was slightly psychic.
It fits and what was their legion colour?....dun dun dun...grey!

cadbren wrote:Maybe the Grey Knights are actually loyalist Word Bearers. The Imperial Cult started with them, the Grey Knights uphold it and even have a similar icon plus Lorgar was slightly psychic.
It fits and what was their legion colour?....dun dun dun...grey!

Your insane.

Deadshot wrote:I don't hate the space bar,I just don't believe it is correct to use it after every mark you make on paper,so to speak.

I think this rather sums up the problems with your theory. A cursory check of any English style manual would correct you on this, just as reading Codex: Grey Knights and the Horus Heresy novels would make it clear that your claims and the grounds on which you base them are nonsensical.

Asherian Command wrote:

cadbren wrote:Maybe the Grey Knights are actually loyalist Word Bearers. The Imperial Cult started with them, the Grey Knights uphold it and even have a similar icon plus Lorgar was slightly psychic.
It fits and what was their legion colour?....dun dun dun...grey!

Your insane.

Blame Lorgar, I do.

I thought it was more gun metal than grey.

With a hint of mauve perhaps?