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Iggyrocksall wrote:

Anvildude wrote:Inquisitors, Marines and Guard are all the same race!

And anyways, why you even gotta ask? Orks iz da best!

umm marines are marines and guards are guards, and by inquesition i think he ment like the witch hunters or sisters of battle (witch hunters are gone i believe, havent been on gws page in sometime) but i have to agree, orks ARE da best (IMO)! Amazing fluff and if your a fan of going up to ur opponet with hordes of troops and laughing as he tries to stop the green tide but he knows his army is doomed then good sir.... i want YOU to join de WAAAAAGH!

Do you call the army a different race than the marines?

Weres Chaos? i think "Gods" are important.

CHAOS

No one likes chaos evidence by the choices.
(JK its because they are more difficult to play now hahaha.)

Yeah both Chaos space marines and Chaos Daemons are tough to play, but both for different reasons. CSM are just outdated and need a new codex. Daemons are pretty good, but are fundamentally random, and therefore unforgiving for a beginner.

If you want a fun and well rounded army then Tyranids are for you. They are beasts in CC, bar the Biovore, Zoanthrope and Hive Guiard. They can take lots of medium to short ranged firepower, some of it devastating, such Devourers. You can encircle and entrap, charge straight forward, creep through cover, because nearly everyone has Move through cover. You can make Nidzilla lists, of 5-10 MCs(though they can get up to 23). You can make hordes, 9 30 strtong units that are cheaper than dirt and are easily expendable. You get nid warriors as troops. They are as strong and tough and fast as marines, but with 3 times the wounds, or shrikes. They are also more skilled in CC, but slightly less at range. Shrikes are JI, but have only a 5+. You can have a Prime, who has better WS, BS, Str, T, I, A, and a 3+.



Zoanies can dish out one of the most powerful shots in the game(Srtr 10, AP1, lance). Sure it is short range, but with a 3++, they have no problems.




I would say that marines are more of a midrange shooty army. They get lots of guns, but they rarely get power weapons, except for their elite models.