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Indeed, it is not at all confirmed that Eldrad is dead. He is however trapped in a blackstone fortress/Talisman of Vaul. Personally I hope they have him escape from/beat up Slaneesh. I dont care how mary sue it might be, the fact that they killed him of during the EoT campaign despite the fact that Eldar did very well is just horrible.
Besides, if Dragio can omgwtfbbq Nurgles garden ect then sure as hell Eldrad should be able to clense a Talisman of Vaul

Hey what about colonel schaeffer and the last chancers? what i read from their books they all were killed by the orks and Kage jumped with von strab into lava. Are they saying they're still alive?

Captain Invictus, Captain of the Ultramarines 1st Company, dies in the 1st Tyrranic War.

TechMarine1 wrote:Captain Invictus, Captain of the Ultramarines 1st Company, dies in the 1st Tyrranic War.

Was he the guy who saved Calgar from the Swarmlord? or I'm I think ing of something else.

AS for Eldrad this is probably some dick move he's playing on everyone. Brings me back to a game where my ally had him and he used mind war to kill a bloodthister and KoS also survived till end game thanks to my nob squad serving as bodyguards.

GentlemanGuy wrote:Hey what about colonel schaeffer and the last chancers? what i read from their books they all were killed by the orks and Kage jumped with von strab into lava. Are they saying they're still alive?

The Last Chancers are an ever-rotating line up of specialist crims. They drop like flies continually, 'Grease Monkey', 'Shiv', 'Rocket Girl', 'Ox', 'Hero', etc. are not literal characters but archetypes that are filled whenever one bites it. Colonel Schaeffer is, however, seemingly immortal.

The entire squat race was eaten by tyranids, or something.

FlammingGaunt wrote:

TechMarine1 wrote:Captain Invictus, Captain of the Ultramarines 1st Company, dies in the 1st Tyrranic War.

Was he the guy who saved Calgar from the Swarmlord? or I'm I think ing of something else.

That was some bloke called Aloysius, commander of Calgar's honour guard; unless I've missed something, he's never been statted.

GentlemanGuy wrote:Hey what about colonel schaeffer and the last chancers? what i read from their books they all were killed by the orks and Kage jumped with von strab into lava. Are they saying they're still alive?

Schaeffer is still alive, and seems set to live basically forever. Kage is dead, unless his dream came true and he turned into a saint. He would be the best saint ever.

Most of the Tanith 1st characters are dead as well.

Have all the Avatars of Khain been killed in suitable embarassing ways yet?

Durza wrote:Have all the Avatars of Khain been killed in suitable embarassing ways yet?

Err.. since they're summoned yearly, it's very unlikely?

Commander Shadowsun's Sister was killed in the Medusa Campaign.

So was Elarique Swiftblade.

tedurur wrote:Indeed, it is not at all confirmed that Eldrad is dead. He is however trapped in a blackstone fortress/Talisman of Vaul. Personally I hope they have him escape from/beat up Slaneesh. I dont care how mary sue it might be, the fact that they killed him of during the EoT campaign despite the fact that Eldar did very well is just horrible.
Besides, if Dragio can omgwtfbbq Nurgles garden ect then sure as hell Eldrad should be able to clense a Talisman of Vaul

Thats the point.

He got overconfidant and just walked into that Blackstone Fortress without knocking. He entered and found Daemonettes and Noise Marines. by then it was too late...

Grey Templar wrote:

tedurur wrote:Indeed, it is not at all confirmed that Eldrad is dead. He is however trapped in a blackstone fortress/Talisman of Vaul. Personally I hope they have him escape from/beat up Slaneesh. I dont care how mary sue it might be, the fact that they killed him of during the EoT campaign despite the fact that Eldar did very well is just horrible.
Besides, if Dragio can omgwtfbbq Nurgles garden ect then sure as hell Eldrad should be able to clense a Talisman of Vaul

Thats the point.

He got overconfidant and just walked into that Blackstone Fortress without knocking. He entered and found Daemonettes and Noise Marines. by then it was too late...

Im sorry, but what exactly is the point? That the/one of the mightiest seers ever, that foresaw the Horus heresy, beat abbadon, saw the tryanids comming long before they arrived ect ect got eaten by a Blackstone fortress because Eldar were doing great?

tedurur wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

tedurur wrote:Indeed, it is not at all confirmed that Eldrad is dead. He is however trapped in a blackstone fortress/Talisman of Vaul. Personally I hope they have him escape from/beat up Slaneesh. I dont care how mary sue it might be, the fact that they killed him of during the EoT campaign despite the fact that Eldar did very well is just horrible.
Besides, if Dragio can omgwtfbbq Nurgles garden ect then sure as hell Eldrad should be able to clense a Talisman of Vaul

Thats the point.

He got overconfidant and just walked into that Blackstone Fortress without knocking. He entered and found Daemonettes and Noise Marines. by then it was too late...

Im sorry, but what exactly is the point? That the/one of the mightiest seers ever, that foresaw the Horus heresy, beat abbadon, saw the tryanids comming long before they arrived ect ect got eaten by a Blackstone fortress because Eldar were doing great?

He got overconfidant, because the Eldar were doing so good, and was killed/captured because of it.

Grey Templar wrote:

tedurur wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

tedurur wrote:Indeed, it is not at all confirmed that Eldrad is dead. He is however trapped in a blackstone fortress/Talisman of Vaul. Personally I hope they have him escape from/beat up Slaneesh. I dont care how mary sue it might be, the fact that they killed him of during the EoT campaign despite the fact that Eldar did very well is just horrible.
Besides, if Dragio can omgwtfbbq Nurgles garden ect then sure as hell Eldrad should be able to clense a Talisman of Vaul

Thats the point.

He got overconfidant and just walked into that Blackstone Fortress without knocking. He entered and found Daemonettes and Noise Marines. by then it was too late...

Im sorry, but what exactly is the point? That the/one of the mightiest seers ever, that foresaw the Horus heresy, beat abbadon, saw the tryanids comming long before they arrived ect ect got eaten by a Blackstone fortress because Eldar were doing great?

He got overconfidant, because the Eldar were doing so good, and was killed/captured because of it.

I still say he has some trick up his sleeve it would be like a lord of change stepping foot on terra without a trick or two. Also no one mentioned Makai da luckiest grot der eva waz!

Eldrad's one of the farseers convinced that every eldar dying is contributing to the birth of their death god who'll come and pwn all of chaos... So, him walking to his own demise doesn't seem that surprising. In the EoT book it talks about him dividing his soul into spirit stones which are going lifeless one by one.

Skal098 wrote:Say they take out all these heroes in 6e, will they make up new ones? Or will say the imperial guard have a new hero Commissar Caiphas Cain?

what mr good fortune 41k lol

CrimsonHammer wrote:Eldrad's one of the farseers convinced that every eldar dying is contributing to the birth of their death god who'll come and pwn all of chaos... So, him walking to his own demise doesn't seem that surprising. In the EoT book it talks about him dividing his soul into spirit stones which are going lifeless one by one.

True, but the souls consumed by Slaneesh does not feed Yannead

Skal098 wrote:Say they take out all these heroes in 6e, will they make up new ones? Or will say the imperial guard have a new hero Commissar Caiphas Cain?

Whenever they redo a codex, they tend to rotate out some of the existing special characters and add in a few new ones.

Being dead or not has little to do with it. Your games of 40K aren't supposed to only be taking place in the 'current' time, but at any point since the Heresy. So the fact that a character is 'dead' in the 'current' time has no bearing on their usefullness in the game.

Dont know if he died, but Orks had a special character with BS4 in 3ed. only ork who could shoot straight!

Nazdreg i think?

Having an ork that could hit the broad side of the barn he was standing inside would be unorky, apparently..

Skal098 wrote:Say they take out all these heroes in 6e, will they make up new ones? Or will say the imperial guard have a new hero Commissar Caiphas Cain?

If they advance the storyline as some rumors claim, then I would assume they will invent new Characters. I can't imagine them advancing the storyline at all, Eldrad is too important of a character (he appears in the HH novels and knew the Emperor supposedly well enough to know the Emperors NAME) so I think things will remain stagnated with those characters dead/alive in game turns. But new characters are always being added in.

Unless it was a substantial advance, they wouldn't need all that many new characters anyway. And there still wouldn't be anything stopping people fighting wars in times when those characters were still alive (warp storm time travel)

There have been quite a few more deaths of statted characters in Forge World's Imperial Armour books; Verrant Ortys (Master of the Red Scorpions), Stibor Lanzareck (Master of the Fire Hawks) and Inquisitor Solomon Lok all quite explicitly died in their respective books. Moreover, given that the Siege of Vraks and the Badab War took place 150 and 100 years before the 'present day' of 999.M41, many of their other protagonists could also be presumed by 'now' to have perished.

Huron is alive though if he's anything like the other Chaos champions.

Huron indeed would be the obvious exception, though the statistics given for him in Imperial Armour IX represent the 904.M41 Tyrant of Badab, rather than the 999.M41 Lord of the Maelstrom statted in the Chaos Marines' Codex..

Zalmout wrote:

Skal098 wrote:Say they take out all these heroes in 6e, will they make up new ones? Or will say the imperial guard have a new hero Commissar Caiphas Cain?

God forbid they get Cain, he's cool and I genuinely enjoy him and everything but not even close to the man that Ibram Gaunt is. The IoM needs real heroes.

Do we still have Gaunt? I don't remember seeing him in the latest codex.. just Yarrik (who I never really liked).

spiralingcadaver wrote:Lord Solar Macharius (IG) died, but I don't know if he's in a current codex, I don't think his model is produced any more.

His sorta the IG version of alexander the great, allmost same path apart from the gayness or is it .......

Sangunious died. So did Ferrus Manus. I don't think that's entirely what you mean though.

I presume the OP is really looking for statted, usable characters, so no, I don't think that's what he wants.

Though if we're just throwing in characters mentioned in the background, I'm fairly sure William Shakespeare and Emperor Domitian can safely be assumed to be dead too.

tilarium wrote:

Zalmout wrote:

Skal098 wrote:Say they take out all these heroes in 6e, will they make up new ones? Or will say the imperial guard have a new hero Commissar Caiphas Cain?

God forbid they get Cain, he's cool and I genuinely enjoy him and everything but not even close to the man that Ibram Gaunt is. The IoM needs real heroes.

Do we still have Gaunt? I don't remember seeing him in the latest codex.. just Yarrik (who I never really liked).

Nope, he isn't in the current Codex. He was in the last one though.