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Much as I'd love to know, I think it would be better left as a secret.

i remember seeing them as a reference in the space wolves codex, i think page 9, where it says that all 20 legions were created and given their primarch, so we can rule out that the second and 11th primarchs were killed in the scattering by the chaos gods...
But yeah i would love hints to be dropped constantly in the future, up to the point where someone eventually guesses the entire history of the missing primarchs correctly, THEN they should release the missing primarchs/legions history.

blood reaper wrote:No, like another member said it would be to Mary Sue. I'm already annoyed at the current fluff which gets worse and worse, I don't hate all fan-fiction and enjoy the good logical stuff but there are things I just hate. I'd expect playing with Custom Chapters but I'll never expect Lost Legions. They need to stay lost, like Mat Wards idea for the next Warhammer 40,000 Codex, Ultra Angel Blood Templar's.

You missed part of the title: Ward is doing the codex for the Ultra Grey Angel Blood Templar Knights. Their Chapter master is Marnedor Draigar, who single-handedly broke into Khorne's fortress and punched Khorne in his dick. It's not a rumor anymore; they scrapped the upcoming Tau codex and will be putting this codex out in its place.

The Son Of Russ wrote:i remember seeing them as a reference in the space wolves codex, i think page 9, where it says that all 20 legions were created and given their primarch, so we can rule out that the second and 11th primarchs were killed in the scattering by the chaos gods...
But yeah i would love hints to be dropped constantly in the future, up to the point where someone eventually guesses the entire history of the missing primarchs correctly, THEN they should release the missing primarchs/legions history.

No one is going to guess their history, because they don't have one. The hints are never going to get less vague than stuff like 'I wish they were still around.' followed by 'We do not speak of them.'

McNinja wrote:

blood reaper wrote:No, like another member said it would be to Mary Sue. I'm already annoyed at the current fluff which gets worse and worse, I don't hate all fan-fiction and enjoy the good logical stuff but there are things I just hate. I'd expect playing with Custom Chapters but I'll never expect Lost Legions. They need to stay lost, like Mat Wards idea for the next Warhammer 40,000 Codex, Ultra Angel Blood Templar's.

You missed part of the title: Ward is doing the codex for the Ultra Grey Angel Blood Templar Knights. Their Chapter master is Marnedor Draigar, who single-handedly broke into Khorne's fortress and punched Khorne in his dick. It's not a rumor anymore; they scrapped the upcoming Tau codex and will be putting this codex out in its place.

Ward's fluff isn't that bad...

purplefood wrote:

McNinja wrote:

blood reaper wrote:No, like another member said it would be to Mary Sue. I'm already annoyed at the current fluff which gets worse and worse, I don't hate all fan-fiction and enjoy the good logical stuff but there are things I just hate. I'd expect playing with Custom Chapters but I'll never expect Lost Legions. They need to stay lost, like Mat Wards idea for the next Warhammer 40,000 Codex, Ultra Angel Blood Templar's.

You missed part of the title: Ward is doing the codex for the Ultra Grey Angel Blood Templar Knights. Their Chapter master is Marnedor Draigar, who single-handedly broke into Khorne's fortress and punched Khorne in his dick. It's not a rumor anymore; they scrapped the upcoming Tau codex and will be putting this codex out in its place.

Ward's fluff isn't that bad...

He tends to Mary-Sue it up, especially if you read Draigos codex entry. He also loves the Ultramarines a little too much. I don't really have a huge problem with it, but it is fairly entertaining. He could do better.

On topic, the purpose of the missing Legions is to allow a player to create their own legion. It also adds mystery, and mystery is enticing. I for one created a legion, and it is awesome. But their Primarch died when he was on a planet that got Exterminatus'd by way of Cyclonic missile. Or did he?

gh05tdemon wrote:Go far enough back in fluff and you will find them... I forget the name of the book but I found them...

No you won't, and no you didn't.

Chowderhead wrote:

=I= White-Wolf wrote:No. No. No and no again the Horus heresy series makes it quite obvious what happened, one legion turned rogue and was eliminated by the space wolves, the other something happened with the primarch, for whatever reason the primarch was eliminated and the numbers of that legion where then absorbed into the ultramarines, reasons for both events are unknown...for now at least for anyone wondering, sources include prospero burns, Horus rising, a thousand sons, first heretic and pretty much every other HH book

I'm going to pull a Kanluwen and say that rumor =/= fact. The internet has a very, very hard time with this.

Ain't this the truth.

Coolyo294 wrote:No. The Two Lost Legions are one of 40k's greatest mysteries, and should stay that way.

IIRC the lost legions are reference to the lost legions of Rome who went to face the Scots and never returned.

As for fluff, Russ and his wolves destroyed one and the other has been hinted as being destroyed by the Emperor due to corruption.

Coolyo294 wrote:No. The Two Lost Legions are one of 40k's greatest mysteries, and should stay that way.

I agree with this.

Lobukia wrote:

English Assassin wrote:No. The mystery is greatly more interesting than the revelation ever could be.

+1, This. GW has made it crystal clear that they are 2 legions that had their structure destroyed and have otherwise been left alone so that we can each have our own legion if we want to

No, they haven't.

What they HAVE made clear multiple times in White Dwarf is that the 2 missing Legions are missing to create mystery in the setting.

They did NOT create missing Legions so people could fill in the gap and anyone who's ever told you they said that is making gak up.

McNinja wrote:You missed part of the title: Ward is doing the codex for the Ultra Grey Angel Blood Templar Knights. Their Chapter master is Marnedor Draigar, who single-handedly broke into Khorne's fortress and punched Khorne in his dick. It's not a rumor anymore; they scrapped the upcoming Tau codex and will be putting this codex out in its place.

No0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o... We were so close...

McNinja wrote:

purplefood wrote:

McNinja wrote:

blood reaper wrote:No, like another member said it would be to Mary Sue. I'm already annoyed at the current fluff which gets worse and worse, I don't hate all fan-fiction and enjoy the good logical stuff but there are things I just hate. I'd expect playing with Custom Chapters but I'll never expect Lost Legions. They need to stay lost, like Mat Wards idea for the next Warhammer 40,000 Codex, Ultra Angel Blood Templar's.

You missed part of the title: Ward is doing the codex for the Ultra Grey Angel Blood Templar Knights. Their Chapter master is Marnedor Draigar, who single-handedly broke into Khorne's fortress and punched Khorne in his dick. It's not a rumor anymore; they scrapped the upcoming Tau codex and will be putting this codex out in its place.

Ward's fluff isn't that bad...

He tends to Mary-Sue it up, especially if you read Draigos codex entry. He also loves the Ultramarines a little too much. I don't really have a huge problem with it, but it is fairly entertaining. He could do better.

this means that the Marnedor Draigar ALSO killed all the powerful Daemons in the warp, while sick with space AIDS, blind in both eyes and with his now SUPER PSYKER POWAHZ from the EMPRAH himself after he told him he's the best Marine ever

Right?

hand banana wrote:

McNinja wrote:

purplefood wrote:

McNinja wrote:

blood reaper wrote:No, like another member said it would be to Mary Sue. I'm already annoyed at the current fluff which gets worse and worse, I don't hate all fan-fiction and enjoy the good logical stuff but there are things I just hate. I'd expect playing with Custom Chapters but I'll never expect Lost Legions. They need to stay lost, like Mat Wards idea for the next Warhammer 40,000 Codex, Ultra Angel Blood Templar's.

You missed part of the title: Ward is doing the codex for the Ultra Grey Angel Blood Templar Knights. Their Chapter master is Marnedor Draigar, who single-handedly broke into Khorne's fortress and punched Khorne in his dick. It's not a rumor anymore; they scrapped the upcoming Tau codex and will be putting this codex out in its place.

Ward's fluff isn't that bad...

He tends to Mary-Sue it up, especially if you read Draigos codex entry. He also loves the Ultramarines a little too much. I don't really have a huge problem with it, but it is fairly entertaining. He could do better.

this means that the Marnedor Draigar ALSO killed all the powerful Daemons in the warp, while sick with space AIDS, blind in both eyes and with his now SUPER PSYKER POWAHZ from the EMPRAH himself after he told him he's the best Marine ever

Right?

You got it!

I like the current portrayal as being taboo to mention.
It's cool how whenever someone in the HH books mentions
them they are instantly told to be silent.

It's like the first rule of fight club "you do not talk about fight club"
Everyone in the story just refusing to talk about it and leaving it as a mystery is more interesting.
But using it as a mystery for the creation of armies made from missing legions is strange because they have been gone for over 10,000 years.
It's just my opinion but the story of just simply being under no circumstances being allowed for an in-universe character to talk about them is more interesting.