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helgrenze wrote:He is an over-packaged, entitled, obnoxious twerp.
Marg Helgenberger said he was rude on the set of CSI and wasn't well liked.
He has a half dozen people paid to be around him telling him how great he is.
His look, sound, and style are all decided for him by committee.
In short, Bieber is nothing more than a 'product'. And once he becomes outdated, another 'product' will be manufactured by the same (or similar) people.
Why does your post sound so bitter? He piss in your froot loops or something?
Apathy, really. I don't envy his life, I hold greed and pride as big sins. His music doesn't appeal to me, so I don't go watch and rant on Youtube. Every time you do that, he gets a dollar-fifty.
helgrenze wrote:He is an over-packaged, entitled, obnoxious twerp.
Marg Helgenberger said he was rude on the set of CSI and wasn't well liked.
He has a half dozen people paid to be around him telling him how great he is.
His look, sound, and style are all decided for him by committee.
In short, Bieber is nothing more than a 'product'. And once he becomes outdated, another 'product' will be manufactured by the same (or similar) people.
Why does your post sound so bitter? He piss in your froot loops or something?
I think it's because Helgrenze only listens to TRUE METAL
...and so pop is his natural enemy. Even though metal is a type of pop music.
I think what drives most people mad about Beiber is the fanbase of his. Ok to me he looks and sings like a girl and I couldn't stand his music. But the girls chasing after him, ugh.
Makes you wonder if female fanbases are the cause of all men's greif
Juvieus Kaine wrote:I think what drives most people mad about Beiber is the fanbase of his.
I've never seen this mythical fanbase of his. Even on youtube they're pretty subdued and-- unlike the whiny frakheads who hate the guy-- focus most of their comments on actual Bieber videos.
The Justin Bieber hatedom is full of far more worthless, obnoxious trash than the fandom is...
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AustonT wrote:
I think you are allowed to saw shes hot and you'd bang her once she was of age. Least that's what I said about the olsen twins. Who are also filthy rich and probably more talented (business women) than the mop.
Meh, the Olsen Twins are so rakishly thin that they have a serious lack of curves. There bodies have more in common with a prepubescent boy than an actual girl's imo.
Isnt there something inherently wrong in looking for curves on Olsen twins during the time they were active in the media.
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I don't know anything about his character or fanbase, but as far as his music goes...I don't really care. It's not like his music exisiting, be it bad or good, somehow makes the music I like sound any worse.
What I do hate is the incessant Bieber hate that seems to crop up everywhere. I find it incredibly silly that grown men need to to tell other grown men that music tailored and marketed to tween to teen girls is not for them. Oh what a suprise... The same thing can be said about Twilight hatred.
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AustonT wrote:
I think you are allowed to saw shes hot and you'd bang her once she was of age. Least that's what I said about the olsen twins. Who are also filthy rich and probably more talented (business women) than the mop.
Meh, the Olsen Twins are so rakishly thin that they have a serious lack of curves. There bodies have more in common with a prepubescent boy than an actual girl's imo.
Isnt there something inherently wrong in looking for curves on Olsen twins during the time they were active in the media.
I just find women look more attractive when they have some curvature.
Just listened the Justin Bieber Baby-Metal version and it blew my mind, in a bad way. Like already said, his singing is not that bad and his a freaking millionare! Im not a fan of he music but I gotta give him credit for his success. Besides, people will forget him once he finally hits puberty
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LoneLictor wrote:The only thing I have against Justin Bieber is his comment that women who were raped shouldn't be allowed to have abortions. That is fething messed up.
That is horribly disgusting view to have even if the women wasn't raped, she should still be allowed to have an abortion if that's what she wants.
Agreed; women should be allowed to have abortion no matter what, especially when they're raped. After all, tis her body.
helgrenze wrote:He is an over-packaged, entitled, obnoxious twerp.
Marg Helgenberger said he was rude on the set of CSI and wasn't well liked.
He has a half dozen people paid to be around him telling him how great he is.
His look, sound, and style are all decided for him by committee.
In short, Bieber is nothing more than a 'product'. And once he becomes outdated, another 'product' will be manufactured by the same (or similar) people.
Why does your post sound so bitter? He piss in your froot loops or something?
I think it's because Helgrenze only listens to TRUE METAL
...and so pop is his natural enemy. Even though metal is a type of pop music.
Meh.. I listen to ALL kinds of music. Though for the record.... I have been closely linked to Punk more than Metal.. and the natural enemy of Punk is Disco.
It's not bitter to comment on how one perceives the pop product called "Bieber".
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Monster Rain wrote:It's also not much of a leap to perceive such over the top hatred of an act that isn't aimed at your demographic as being bitter.
Just saying.
I reserve my hatred for acts that truely deserve it..... Like the Bluegrass version of AC/DC.....
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It will only be a matter of time before he ends up a drug addled wreck, cursing his management for lining their pockets whilst fleecing him at the same time. He will be a nobody within 5 years, just another faceless pop star whose light has faded. Yeah, they come and go, and always the hate will follow. It's this hate that will eventually drive him over the edge.
Either that or he will 'Come Out' and his life will be complete....
I always find it amusing the pop, or really mainstream music in general, is somehow produced; while independent music is not. Do independent musicians simply pluck away at random, and occasionally get lucky to produce something worth listening to? And, if so, wouldn't that be less skillful?
More reasonably, why is the number of people that are involved in producing an image relevant to whether or not its good, or authentic?
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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:He wouldn't be a millionaire without the help of a lot of suits whose primary objective is to line their own pockets
The kid has a modicum of ability and doubtless works hard, but it is all a hollow poppet.
The kid was making his own recordings and videos of his own songs for a good while PRIOR to any industry help and built up his own youtube following/fanbase. I have a feeling if he never made it big he would be stilldoing it on youtube himsef and haveing a blast.
He has talent, drive, and loves music. Now that he has blown up why shouldn't he enjoy it and go along foe the ride? Good for him.
How is this any different then say our own Albatross?
I mean, this is kind of why I wish the kid all the best. I'm not a fan, but I know first-hand how difficult it is to try and break into the industry, so good luck to him. This idea that people are just handed record deals and turned into stars willy-nilly is fething nonsense. It requires a LOT of hard work to even get your music HEARD by anyone at even a tiny record company.
Long story short: People shouldn't pretend to comment with authority on that which they have absolutely zero knowledge of. Even the most seemingly vacuous and talentless pop-star has to put in a gakload of hard work to make a career.
Albatross wrote:People shouldn't pretend to comment with authority on that which they have absolutely zero knowledge of. Even the most seemingly vacuous and talentless pop-star has to put in a gakload of hard work to make a career.
QFT.
The kid is a decent singer. Okay he is driven to the point of inhumanity, but that's what it takes. He is gonna be a pretty odd human being but that is the cost of talent, look at MJ for chrissakes.
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I have only one thing to say. That is I hate Justin Bieber with god awful passion. But as anyone watched the Slipknot and Bieber mix up. Funny as hell!
I can't stand the sound of a male voice over a tenor, which is mostly why Maroon 5 makes me want to vomit.
And I'm not one of those unthinking "dur dur I hate pop" kids, I have every Lady Gaga CD. None of them I paid money for, but still.
I hate his image, I hate his music, and I hate his stupid shiteating grin every time he goes on an interview and talks about how he became famous over yet another 240p Youtube video.
I've heard that he was a little dickweed on the set of CSI and seeing him get 'shot' was the funniest thing I've ever seen, no joke.
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Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I can't stand the sound of a male voice over a tenor, which is mostly why Maroon 5 makes me want to vomit.
...along with Queen, Led Zeppelin, Little Richard,Jeff Buckley, Radiohead, The Who, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Soundgarden, Roy Orbison, Smokey Robinson, U2, Billy Joel, Mars Volta/At the Drive-in, Elton John, The Beach Boys, Muse and The fething Beatles?
Dude, what does your record collection look like? That was just a handful - the vast majority of male pop/rock singers are tenors or above. I can't help but feel that you're missing out somewhat...
AustonT wrote:
I think you are allowed to saw shes hot and you'd bang her once she was of age. Least that's what I said about the olsen twins. Who are also filthy rich and probably more talented (business women) than the mop.
Meh, the Olsen Twins are so rakishly thin that they have a serious lack of curves. There bodies have more in common with a prepubescent boy than an actual girl's imo.
Isnt there something inherently wrong in looking for curves on Olsen twins during the time they were active in the media.
I just find women look more attractive when they have some curvature.
Unlike the Olsen twins (during their media spotlight time) the lady above is not underage.
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