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Haha, perhaps it could, but only after it has been with Jes Goodwin for a month first.

Worst proxies I have ever encountered: An old disembodied troll torso (I believe from Blood Bowl) to represent a Bloodthirster, and WFB movement trays to represent ork buggies. Also, a 2cm tall featureless lump of putty to represent a chaos spawn (which I thought it was so poor simply because it implied the beginning and end of the effort the guy was going to make).

I would be interested to know if anyone has every actually encountered the legendary Carnifex Coke bottle however?

KingCracker wrote:This


plus this



Does not make a Land raider.

Epic!
Pretty much what other people have said. If you are proxying something that is expensive/want to try it out, yes. When little plastic army men are really Terminators, then no.

I normally let proxies in, if the player is testing new units.

Personally I cant stand proxys of any kind, just erks me like no other!
Now unless your testing an idea, my mind set is this... If you dont have it, you cant play it!

This all started with me when I used to play Magic The Gathering and had one guy show up with his deck 50% proxys!
Seriously, he had writen the stats of cards he did not even own on paper scraps and slid em into the card sleeves! Who frakken does that!

Ever since then I try not to play anyone with proxys... its just how I am!

If someone actually built reasonable facsimiles of 40k models out of Legos I think I might actually enjoy playing against them.

As long as I could use my Lego deathstar.

I haven't had too many experiences with my opponents proxying. Whenever they did it though it wasn't too much... a model or two maybe. I've tried it like 3 times myself. Once it was to try out las/plas on Razorbacks. That went okay. Another time was during a store tourny (never did feel too comfortable doing that and would not do that again). I was using a Razorback as a Vindicator. The third time I did it, during a practice game, it went horribly. I was going for flamer/missile launcher builds with my tac squads and I didn't have the enough models with flamers or missile launchers. I used models with plasmaguns and plasma cannons as proxies. My opponent and I kept forgetting they were flamers and missile launchers. I don't think I've proxied anything since. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it again, I just haven't had any games lately where I needed to proxy something.

I'm not sure what 'too much' would be. Maybe when they proxy whole armies. Or maybe if they do it every game and they've had plenty of opportunities to actually build the model... then again some folks can't afford to expand their army.

I don't generally mind proxies ... as long as it is consistent in what it is throughout the game, and isn't a permanent proxy.

Ogryn wrote:I normally let proxies in, if the player is testing new units.

Yea Ill allow proxies, specially if someone wants to see if they like IG, and so use their Orks as a guard force a couple times. Thats fine really, as I understand not wanting to sink all that money just to realize its not what you thought. But I used to play against a guy years ago, that "played" IG, and all his tanks were proxies, all the time, and were terrible. Infact one of his LRBT, was actually a blob of lego bricks, and the cannon was a crayon. Hence my previous joke

Like others, If someone wants to try out a unit, or make a plasma gun into a melta gun a couple times, thats ok, but I have seen whole armies of blank bases...no models on them.

Large base is a dred
medium base is a termie squad.
Small bases are marines.

I just wont play against that. I am not going to have fun trying to keep track of what units are on the blank bases.

I tend to proxy, as others have posted, to try Units before I purchase/modify them. I always ask permission and only play them in friendly games.

There is nothing worse with todays prices than buying expensive figures and then left them sitting painted at home as you've found out they dont fit into your armies playing style ( looks in sadness at his 5 Ogryns and 40 Stormtroopers)

I do have 30 old Gorkamorka Digga Mob figures that have in there past been LATD, Schaeffers Last Chancers, Penal Troops and now do me proud as Warrior Acolytes with Boltguns so have probably saved me £100+ in buying new figures.

So in my eyes proxying has a place but within reason. But as we know in this game theres always those that will push it to extremes.

Pacific wrote:Also, a 2cm tall featureless lump of putty to represent a chaos spawn (which I thought it was so poor simply because it implied the beginning and end of the effort the guy was going to make)

Sounds like a Nurgle Chaos Spawn. And hey, people expect Chaos to be loads of mouths and arms and stuff so having nothing is being unexpected which is pretty chaotic

On topic, the only proxying I've done is 5 spear elves proxying for repeater crossbow elves (on the rear rank) so I could meet the minimum unit size requirement of 10 (so half the unit was the right models anyway) in WHFB and using gun drones as shield drones for my Broadsides until I got the shield drone conversion kit in WH40K.

As long as it is recognisable as what it is meant to be proxying (same size base and ideally the same size miniature now that true line of sight is the rules) then it's ok by me.