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hmm slaanesh seems like a douche khorne seems like the cool one and Nurgle just smells too bad

if i had to pick i'd pick khorne. I just don't see the point in serving under slaanesh if thats the case then

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Butttttt you said Nurgle cares and so does khorne sometimes do you think Slaanesh cares in a way at all? Ants on a farm but what if there was some interaction that could spark a weird way of championship between slaanesh and a minion or something? Like darks life said Khorne resurrected the girl because he liked her. Does that happen sometimes with the other gods?

Lucius would like a word with you.

I'd pick Nurgle. Forever. Because he would love me back.

Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:I'd pick Nurgle. Forever. Because he would love me back.

This just sounds... Dirty


see what i did there

Yeah, there's just something creepy about him. At least you kind of know what you're in for with Slaanesh.

Tzeench. I'd quite happily murder a planet for access to knowledge.
And he seems pretty laid back.

That laid back feeling was just his plan to attract you to worship him.

As long as you are part of the Grand Scheme Tzeentch will shower you with power beyond your wildest dreams! However, the moment that the plan doesn't require you for any longer...

Here's how I would rate 'em in terms of caringness.

Nurgle-Yeah, he actually cares quite a bit.
Khorne-He's meh to the whole thing. That said, he doesn't badly mutate his followers and resurrected Kharn, so that counts for something.
Tzeentch-Selfish and cruel, Tzeentch doesn't care.
Slaanesh-It only cares about itself and pleasure.

Isengard wrote:Chaos worship in the fluff really makes no sense. The game strongly implies that people have sould of sorts and that worship of chaos is akin to damnation, handing your sould to a despicable alien power that has no good feelings whatsoever.

Not implied, outright stated.

Also, and here's why 40k is the crapsackiest universe ever, daemons get your soul no matter what when you die anyway.

It depends on your definition of care.

Each of the chaos gods have an agenda. They need followers to achieve this agenda. No followers, no sucess. Since chaos gets its powers from mortals, just having a horde of demons does not give them any power. So yes, they care. They need their hordes of lunitics to power their own abilities and even support their existance. However, the care that they give out is in the form of gifts.

Slannesh grants its followers that which they most desire. How is that not love when you are granted the one thing you need most.

Nurgle answers his followers prayers to stop the suffering of disease and suffering. How is that not love if you no longer have your greatest fear.

Tzeench grants you power. The power to inflict your will as you wish. So it comes with a side of chicken feet and feathers. But you have that power you so desire. Again, how is that not love?

Khorne... well... yeah that.

But seriously, the gods need their mortal followers. And there are obviously some mortals more favored than others... See Lucius, Kharn, etc. But for the most part each god has listened to the prayers of those who worship them and have given them something in return. That is a type of caring.

No, the god isn't going to save a CSM from a mortal wound (save the gods champions), but then again, the God Emperor of man isn't doing much for Brother Tushious Bottomus when the Carinfex is gnawing on his hip bone.

NURGLE LOVES ME THIS I KNOW, FOR THE CODEX TELLS ME SO!

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DarknessEternal wrote:
Also, and here's why 40k is the crapsackiest universe ever, daemons get your soul no matter what when you die anyway.

Woo double post!

That only happens for Eldar. Human souls aren't permanent enough to stick around and get sucked into the warp, they just die.

ShatteredBlade wrote:I play Chaos because I like the rebellious aspect, the gods I could give a Gak about. It's why I play Alpha Legion and Night Lords. I just..don't really care for the Dark Gods. I suppose I should just be playing a codex chapter, but nah..

Same reason I play Iron Warriors (kinda), they don't follow one choas god.

They may be undivided or don't care, either way is fine for me

Personally, I preferred the 3rd ed sadistic Nurgle, it seemed to fit better. The Chaos gods care for their followers in some way, but only to the extent where they would vaguely prefer it if they weren't dead. If they do something to grab their god's attention, then they'll become more favoured and get immortality.

I don't think any of the Chaos gods care, but they do show favor when CSM carry out some grand event in their name. I think worse case scenario is for the Chaos gods to be bored with a CSM and turn them into a spawn. At that point it's, well, just bad.

In Warhammer Fantasy Role-Play it states that (at least in Fantasy) Tzeentch loves humanity most and best because our adaptability and sheer unpredictableness. In 40k under the Imperial Dogma we've become more formulaic and 'settled,' and so he's lost much of his interest.

But on the whole the Gods of Chaos think of us the way a child might regard a Hot Wheels car or a Barbie doll. Fun to play with, but ultimately discarded when it ceases to amuse.

If Kharn stopped to compose a poem or Lucius would show remorse for his Magnum Opus of carnage the Gods would revoke their beloved status in a heartbeat and they'd drop dead from age.

If they do something to grab their god's attention, then they'll become more favoured and get immortality.

Or turned into Chaos Spawn... but, hey, you know, a Chaos Gift is a Chaos Gift, right? A nod's as good as a wink and so forth.

Slannesh grants its followers that which they most desire. How is that not love when you are granted the one thing you need most.

Except there is almost always some warped flaw in that "perfection"... or, once you have "it", whatever "it" is... you now want something else, something more, something greater, to feed your perverse desires. With Slaanesh, desire becomes an end unto itself.

Nurgle answers his followers prayers to stop the suffering of disease and suffering. How is that not love if you no longer have your greatest fear.

By giving you nine other plagues to share with everyone around you and causing those who die to rise as shambling corpses rife with pestilence, perhaps.

Tzeench grants you power. The power to inflict your will as you wish. So it comes with a side of chicken feet and feathers. But you have that power you so desire. Again, how is that not love?

Because you're a pawn, one of the merest pawns in a very great game. Tzeentch doesn't love you, he's just using you, because it's all going according to plan.

I'm seeing the chaos gods more and more as almost elemental and not really sentient in the true sense. Each represents an extreme of emotion. They are only interested in furthering this narrow focus, if that is best done by rewards then fine but they have no problem with their followers being killed/mutated/etc as long as they do so trying to further their aims. For example, Khorne just wants death and destruction so it will accept any death whether a follower or not, it probably regards killing more challenging opponents more highly but that is the limit. If you kill stuff Khorne will reward you, not as a conscious act of motivation but purely as a reaction to having its aims furthered. Thoughts?

Isengard wrote:I'm seeing the chaos gods more and more as almost elemental and not really sentient in the true sense. Each represents an extreme of emotion. They are only interested in furthering this narrow focus, if that is best done by rewards then fine but they have no problem with their followers being killed/mutated/etc as long as they do so trying to further their aims. For example, Khorne just wants death and destruction so it will accept any death whether a follower or not, it probably regards killing more challenging opponents more highly but that is the limit. If you kill stuff Khorne will reward you, not as a conscious act of motivation but purely as a reaction to having its aims furthered. Thoughts?

Well, the Chaos gods are sentient, but most of their minds are taken up with fighting each other, so the only time they really have for real space is when someone does something that pleases them, so they reward that person because having servants gives them power, which helps them in their game. If they could play without being involved with real space, they probably wouldn't interfere there at all.

Khorne isn't just anger and destruction, he's also pride, honour and tactics. There's just a lot more anger in the galaxy. Same as Slaanesh is love, perfection and skill, but excess overrides them.

Isengard, I have heard them speak somewhere along the lines of fluff. You said they aren't conscious, but why would they speak or have rivalries with eachother?

They have to be some kind of entity to be doing that. I remember it said Slaanesh's birth cries destroyed almost all of the eldar.

But I kind of agree with you. From what you said I can think of it as an instinct of an animal more so than "Im going to the gym, I wanna get Jacked"

Lines already set by their minds they cannot change.

The Chaos gods don't really love their followers, they take care of them, and reward some of them with protection (Mainly Nurgle and Tzeentch) The two fore mentioned do not wish death upon their followers, and take care to give them aid, but in the end, they are a pawn like any other. In a game of chess, you make keep your queen safe to make it easier to win a game, however, it is still just a piece of a game in the end, and a new pawn can reach the backfield and be turned into a queen.

I imagine the Chaos Gods look to their followers much the same way we do to our models. We come to acquire them, we paint them (granted I doubt Khornes never touched a bristle but you get the point), arm them and send them into the miniature fray as it were, but not for their own sake. We do it for our own entertainment or to achieve some kind of victory. Sure we have our favorites, sure we upgrade some, and tend to focus on the ones that bring us the most success, but at the end of the day they're a means to an end, that end being our entertainment at their pseudo conflicts.