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If you don't care about points then, 3 LRBT executioners fully kitted out.

But as much as I dislike the space puppies, long fangs are pretty good

The exorsist is actually pretty decent from the SoB codex.

Ravager is probably the most cost effective, move 12in a turn fire all weapons.

Tau Broadsides.

Twinlinked railguns and smart missiles? With the right upgrades, they get Slow and Purposeful and can fire both weapons in the same turn...and they have a 2+ save and 4++ with shield drones.

Oh yeah

Broadsides are really good, as are Hammerheads (due to upgrades)

Ultimately though, the Battlewagon. Just perfect fit in Ork armies, relatively cheap, and throw a deffrolla on there and you win.

Shrike325 wrote:Broadsides are really good, as are Hammerheads (due to upgrades)

Ultimately though, the Battlewagon. Just perfect fit in Ork armies, relatively cheap, and throw a deffrolla on there and you win.

Yep. And they work surprising well with Flashgitz.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Shrike325 wrote:Broadsides are really good, as are Hammerheads (due to upgrades)

Ultimately though, the Battlewagon. Just perfect fit in Ork armies, relatively cheap, and throw a deffrolla on there and you win.

Yep. And they work surprising well with Flashgitz.

What doesn't go well with battlewagons

Commissar Typhus wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Shrike325 wrote:Broadsides are really good, as are Hammerheads (due to upgrades)

Ultimately though, the Battlewagon. Just perfect fit in Ork armies, relatively cheap, and throw a deffrolla on there and you win.

Yep. And they work surprising well with Flashgitz.

What doesn't go well with battlewagons

Lootas? You have to keep moving with the battlewagon to make the most of it, and lootas can't shoot if they move.

I say the Monolith. The ability to just ignore half the rules in the BGB is worth whatever the point cost may be.

Jimsolo wrote:I say the Monolith. The ability to just ignore half the rules in the BGB is worth whatever the point cost may be.

Not anymore...

Monoliths may be good, but Wyches can tear it appart in no time. Long Fangs are quite good indeed, but the Triple Executioner can blow them up in a second.

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

Arclite wrote:

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

A Challenger Appears!

Doomsday Ark - 72" S9 Ap2 cannon. Large Blast.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Arclite wrote:

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

A Challenger Appears!

Doomsday Ark - 72" S9 Ap2 cannon. Large Blast.

And its defeated cause there are 3 tanks and the weapon profile of the Ark is a lascannon!

Commissar Typhus wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Arclite wrote:

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

A Challenger Appears!

Doomsday Ark - 72" S9 Ap2 cannon. Large Blast.

And its defeated cause there are 3 tanks and the weapon profile of the Ark is a lascannon!

Ok then.

Doomscythe. Has a S10 AP1 cannon that fires in a straight line, and can touch all 3 of your tanks.

I( would have to go with the BA Stromraven armed with MM, and AC. Move 12" onto the board, MM a tank, blow the rest of the squadron with 4 Bloodstrikes and rip something else up with a Assault cannon. And has Ceramite Plating. Not to mention the DC and Blendernought inside.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Commissar Typhus wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Arclite wrote:

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

A Challenger Appears!

Doomsday Ark - 72" S9 Ap2 cannon. Large Blast.

And its defeated cause there are 3 tanks and the weapon profile of the Ark is a lascannon!

Ok then.

Doomscythe. Has a S10 AP1 cannon that fires in a straight line, and can touch all 3 of your tanks.

I would have to put them one in front of the other for that to work.

Leman Russ Main Battle Tank.

Reasonably priced, good array of weapons, tough as nails and can fire on the move.

Monolith, hands down.

If the necrons didn't have the phase out rule, I would have started 'crons a long time ago just because of them

I don't get how this is this much of a discussion.

Battlewagon!

110 points w/ a deffrolla (110!!) for a 14/12/10, 20 capacity transport, with one of the best weapons in the game!

Belexar wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Commissar Typhus wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Arclite wrote:

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

A Challenger Appears!

Doomsday Ark - 72" S9 Ap2 cannon. Large Blast.

And its defeated cause there are 3 tanks and the weapon profile of the Ark is a lascannon!

Ok then.

Doomscythe. Has a S10 AP1 cannon that fires in a straight line, and can touch all 3 of your tanks.

I would have to put them one in front of the other for that to work.

Not if I were to flank them. It is a fast skimmer (flyer)

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Belexar wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Commissar Typhus wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Arclite wrote:

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

A Challenger Appears!

Doomsday Ark - 72" S9 Ap2 cannon. Large Blast.

And its defeated cause there are 3 tanks and the weapon profile of the Ark is a lascannon!

Ok then.

Doomscythe. Has a S10 AP1 cannon that fires in a straight line, and can touch all 3 of your tanks.

I guess that could work. Still, three lascannons.

I would have to put them one in front of the other for that to work.

Not if I were to flank them. It is a fast skimmer (flyer)

point for point shard to beat a killa kan squad.

overall though I'd agree the monolith is pretty hard to beat

Monolithes are easy to beat. Use a Deffrolla, and just keep smashing into it untill you hit it. If it gets immobilised then that helps more.

Hornifex wrote:What is the best heavy support option in 40k. Is it an SM land raider crusader, or a Tyranid trygon . In my opinion it is the IG baneblade. What does everyone else think?

Baneblades aren't heavy support.


In terms of raw power? hard to beat 3x Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma cannon sponsons and lascannons tossing out 15 PC blasts and 3 lascannons from 1 HS FoC slot each turn.

In terms of cost efficiency? Long Fangs followed by Monoliths (they do so much and are so hard to kill even if the rest of the army sucks), Hydras and Manticores

Belexar wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Belexar wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Commissar Typhus wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Arclite wrote:

Belexar wrote:Three Leman Russ Executioners with Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Hull-mounted Lascannons. EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES!

QFT. I don't think there is any other Heavy Support choice that is as good.

A Challenger Appears!

Doomsday Ark - 72" S9 Ap2 cannon. Large Blast.

And its defeated cause there are 3 tanks and the weapon profile of the Ark is a lascannon!

Ok then.

Doomscythe. Has a S10 AP1 cannon that fires in a straight line, and can touch all 3 of your tanks.

I guess that could work. Still, three lascannons.

I would have to put them one in front of the other for that to work.

Not if I were to flank them. It is a fast skimmer (flyer)

Ok then, I put my tanks in a triangle formation, the most you could get is two, and that still leaves at least 1 tank left.

So your best chance is first turn, kill two tanks, don't get killed by a lascannon (or HK missle) or lucky plas, then next turn kill the last tank. Even if you hit and pen perfectly, I still have a chance to knock you out with a third of force.

If you mean legal HS options then I would say probably a LandRaider, Monolith or LRBT

Ravagers are also VERY good. You can have three lances (or If you feel like roasting some SPESS MAHREENS, three Heavy 3 plasma weapons) in a fast skimmer that can zoom around and still fire its three weapons. And on top of that all, it's VERY cheap!

Just based on slot and no regard to points the Rus sqaud will smash anything.

3 Broadsides. Cause for two turns my opposition trying to get rid of them anyway they can