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I totally understand running an event where you live and operate -- putting something together hours away from where you live would be hellish. Still, my issue (issue being a strong word), is these folks have sort of staked a claim as being the ATC by virture of being the first to organize, yet have made it infeasible for anyone living out west to attend.

Its all good though, just a consideration for the future then any real knock on the event or the organizers.

Actually Chattanooga has an decent sized airport - and is only 1/2 hour or so from the event. Several folks flew in last year for it.

Nashville (where I live) is about an hour and 1/2 drive away and is a major airport. Atlanta about 2 hours away.

Knoxville is another option - and is about 1 hour (maybe less) away.

One of our team mates flew into Chattanooga from Chicago last year - think is was a decent rate and easy flight for him.

So - net/net - check into your options a little - nothing on the east coast will be CHEAP from the west coast - but if you go through Chi-town/Dallas/etc - you might be able to get a decent connection.

Hotels near the venue may not be 5 star - but are decent and reasonably priced and lots of easy food. If enough out of towners were coming in - maybe the hosts could arrange some kind of shuttle or something (don't know - just throwing it out).

I do think if it continues to grow - that it will probably move to Nashville area pending venues (one of the host stores - Grand Adventures - is near Nashville - just need to make sure that the tourney will pull enough people to at least break even).

winterman wrote:I totally understand running an event where you live and operate -- putting something together hours away from where you live would be hellish. Still, my issue (issue being a strong word), is these folks have sort of staked a claim as being the ATC by virture of being the first to organize, yet have made it infeasible for anyone living out west to attend.

Its all good though, just a consideration for the future then any real knock on the event or the organizers.

While I agree Chattanooga is off the beaten path. Most people typically prefer not to make multiple connections to reach a destination but unless you are always in a major city that is not going to happen. There are a few other major tournaments that I would not consider that easy to travel. But considering I flew in from Switzerland last year and did not find it to cumbersome. I think most would find it not quite as difficult as they would imagine.

Cleveland is getting a new airport next year due to 2 major Amazon warehouses opening. It will be a major airport making flights easier. The plan is to move it to Nashville in the future. I checked today and there are direct flights to Chattanooga from every airport in CA. There will be a 5 star hotel that will be finished by event date that is only 3-5 mins away as well.



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We did have several players from the West coast that had no issues with their flights last year, so its not impossible.



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NotThisTime wrote:I don't know if anyone has caught this but it appears Wargames Con and the ATC are one week apart. The ATC is scheduled for June 16th & 17th where as Wargames Con is scheduled for June 21st - 24th.

I definitely wanted to attend both events but that seems very unrealistic at this point.

We are working on a final date change to get us 3 weeks away from Wargamescon and off of Fathers Day. Will put us Mid-July.
Final date info coming asap,

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NotThisTime wrote:I don't know if anyone has caught this but it appears Wargames Con and the ATC are one week apart. The ATC is scheduled for June 16th & 17th where as Wargames Con is scheduled for June 21st - 24th.

I definitely wanted to attend both events but that seems very unrealistic at this point.

We are working on a final date change to get us 3 weeks away from Wargamescon and off of Fathers Day. Will put us Mid-July.
Final date info coming asap,

OK Guys - NEW and FINAL DATE CHANGE!!!!
THE NEW DATE IS SET FOR JULY 14TH & 15TH 2012
Please pass along this news to everyone you know or other forums that this is being discussed on that I may have missed!

I apologize for the date change but we conflicted with 2 other events pretty badly and we want everyone to be able to attend everything that they want to and for all the TO's to have the best turnout possible!

Awesome! Thanks!

Great news and a good time.

I think you guys said on Facebook page you have 8 teams already locked (40 people) - WAY COOL!

B-rad wrote:Second- And most important. The reason the ETC is so cool is because when you have 8 players on a team you get to see some people playing with unique armies and lists...this makes the whole thing more fun and I belive more competitive and more of a test to see who is the better teams out there.

When the maority of teams comes with:
1) Gray Knights
2) Spcae Wolfs
3) Imperial Guard
4) Blood Angels
5) Death Wing

I agree 100%. 5 teammates means 80% of the field is made of the top tournament armies. 8 man teams forces half the field to play outside the top books. And the strategy behind matching up 8 vs 8 with lots of book diversity is just that much deeper and better than 5 vs 5.

I know 8 man teams are a little harder to organize. But I don’t really think that much more. I know in my area it would be easier to smash two adepticon teams together than it would finding one odd person to add to our normal 4.

Just my 2 cents, good luck this year!

I actually think the 8 man teams would be a blast.

But...as a team captain - getting 5 people is pretty dang hard to do and get them to stick with it. Both teams from my local club had drop outs and struggled to get teams together.

Also - there is a LOT more parity in the codex's and armies now. With one more Codex most likely dropping before July - you have a LOT more competitive armies than in the past. So I think you will see a wider mix.

And last year had a pretty wide swing as well - lots of BA,SW's, GK's - but a good number of Orc's, Eldar, a couple Tau, lot's of Marines, Dark Angels, Templars, a few Guard....but more variety than you are giving credit for above.

Plus some of those "less popular" lists are pretty deadly to the one's here.

Hmm... I think Fishboy and I should start "Team I just like to paint good and have fun playing"

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Hmm... I think Fishboy and I should start "Team I just like to paint good and have fun playing"

LOL - 'Da Boyz already have Fishboy as their interpreter. Helps them understand "Southern" when they come down to TN.

Oh well. We'd probably end up in a fistfight anyways....lol

Eight of the 24 max teams have already registered (so 40 players so far) and it doesn't happen until July.

Looks like it will be a big deal again this year.

13 Teams now registered.

Up to 17 as of now.....

Pretty cool for a tourney that doesn't happen until July!

I want to bring a new team but feel a bit intimidated by all the presence of the heavyweight clubs like 40kWC and Da Boyz to name just two. Can it be a fun time for a team now saddled with all heavy hitters?

If only for the change of flavor from normal tournaments that it brings, yes.

Don't for get The Blade and Bolter Boyz, those guys are badass!

Some of them are even great painters...

-666- wrote:I want to bring a new team but feel a bit intimidated by all the presence of the heavyweight clubs like 40kWC and Da Boyz to name just two. Can it be a fun time for a team now saddled with all heavy hitters?

It's hard to answer this - because different people want different things out of a tourney.

If you are "win or not fun" - this is a tough tournament - it has lots of GOOD players and a different strategy element around matchups of players/list. Any team can win on any given day - but it's a tough and grueling tournament.

If you are "play hard, want to win, but if I lose and learn it's still good" - this is a fun tournament. You most likely WILL be playing against highly experienced tournament gamers - many who have won or placed highly at big events in the past. You will face off against highly tuned lists and people that now have at least 1 year of experience in getting the matchup thing going. The extra strategy of the matchups is a lot of fun - but a different element that this tournament offers. You have to have a tight team - one that understands that you may get matched against a terrible army for you to face - to allow your team mates to have GOOD matchups.

If you are "I just play for fun - I like fluffy armies and think only dicks bring hard core WAAC lists" - then this might not be a lot of fun. The tourney organizers expect that sportsmanship is a component - but a fluffy list does not equal sportsmanship. You should expect to face the hardest list that people can come up with - and people that are playing to win - and win all three objectives as they all count towards total points.

Personally, I've done well at major tourney's in the past (GW GT's back in the day), I somewhat consider myself a fluff bunny, and play mostly to have fun and the tactical and strategic challenges the hobby brings me. This was pretty much the most fun I've had at any tourney. I had 4 of my good friends as team mates - we laughed, joked, reveled in victory, commensurated defeat - and had a great time.

Thanks for the advice. Looks like I'll be trying to put a team together now.

I am debating putting a team together as well. Just the distance is a bit of an issue sadly. How many spots are left?

20 Teams registered at this point.
We are already looking for ways to expand the venue to hold more!

So, we are 4 teams away from our capacity with 6 months still to go...as a result, we are working with our venue to be able to add more teams, so please continue to register!


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ALL the information, rules, mission, etc is now conveniently located in one place and don't forget to find us and follow all the up-to-date news on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/ATC40k

UPDATES:
We have added more space to now hold 34 teams max.
27 Teams are currently signed up.
The mission has been changed back to a 12" distance between ALL objectives.
www.whatc.org is live

Below is the registered team list:
1- Emerald Coast Wargamers - PAID
2 - Team last Square - PAID
3 - lCl A G E - PAID
4 - Rusty Scabbard -PAID
5 - Original CAGE - PAID
6- Team general staff - PAID
7- Vanguard Gaming - PAID
8- Fixed Dice #1 - PAID
9- Fixed Dice #2 - PAID
10 -Knights of Tallahassee - PAID
11 - Dolls House of Ill Repute - PAID
12 - Chicago Kamikazes - PAID
13- Five 4 Fighting - PAID
14 - Fantastic Four Plus One
15 - Wrecking BOLS
16 - Codex Toledo
17- Blade N Bolter
18- Borderlands Gaming
19- Team general staff
20 - Wrecking Crew East
21- California Bay Area Open
22 -Flashy Gits
23- Chug A Lug
24 - Knife and Bolt Pistol boyz
25- Team Unbroken
26- Broken Dice
27 - Martial Law

I am putting my team together now. Hopefully you will have us at #28 real soon.

Team Five 4 Fighting has full expectations of going 31-0 at this

I saw today that the ATC has dropped the restrictions for special characters and I think that is very awesome indeed. Hopefully the ETC will eventually catch on. Excellent news indeed.

I know you guys think that Chattanooga is a big city, but it really isn’t.

Flight on the ATC weekend from:
Phoenix to Chattanooga $464, 1 stop and 6 Hours 53 minute coming, 8 Hours 50 Minutes going
Phoenix to Atlanta $349 Non-stop 3 Hours, 35 Minutes
I would say that is a bit of a difference.

And renting a car and driving for 2 hours is not a good answer and adds a lot of time and $$$




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THE SIEGE wrote:Cleveland is getting a new airport next year due to 2 major Amazon warehouses opening. It will be a major airport making flights easier. The plan is to move it to Nashville in the future. I checked today and there are direct flights to Chattanooga from every airport in CA. There will be a 5 star hotel that will be finished by event date that is only 3-5 mins away as well.

There are no direct flights from Los Angeles with the largest airport in the country.

Flight on the ATC weekend from:
LAX to Chattanooga $533, 1 stop and 8 Hours 42 minutes coming, 7 Hours 0 Minutes going
LAX to Atlanta $352 Non-stop 4 Hours, 45 Minutes

It is indeed expensive to fly from one end of the country to the other.. This is not news.

The drive from ATL to the tournament venue is not a bad drive at all.

Seems like if you rented an SUV type vehicle between the whole team or tried to communicate with a local for ride up it should help really cut the travel expense.

blood angel wrote:It is indeed expensive to fly from one end of the country to the other.. This is not news.

I have about an 8 hour drive, im sure plenty others are going to be flying for a while. Why not come out and kick ass blackmoor?