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OK final list

HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor, Power Armour, Power Sword (43)

Elites
9 Warrior Acolytes, 6 Bolt Guns, 3 plasmaguns in Rhino (117)

Troops
5GKSS, Hammer, Psycannon, Razorback, Psybolt (170)
5GKSS, Hammer, Psycannon, Razorback, Psybolt (170)

Heavy
5 Purgation Squad, 4 Incinerators, Razorback, Psybolt (150)

Cheap and cheerful Grey Knights list

Don't worry today I had a match against a 1k Eldar list and took me till turn 5 to realise I was playing with less points that was a good facepalm moment!


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Well........ I wasn't expecting the Razorwing but I was expecting to have to seriously think what tank to pop in what order....

ah crap Night Shield that's the one that takes 6" off my range

Lol, that's awesome, how'd it go?

So how long do you give it til someone comes along and says "you, go blaster venom spam, you, go *insert gk something* spam" lol

Rest of Dakka, the above 2 lists are the final to be gamed lists, who do you thinks got this one in the bag?


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Indeed it is hahaha

It went ok considering I was at half strength. Managed to take down Wraithlord, Swooping Hawks, Striking Scorpions and half a jetbike squad. He had guardians and dire avengers and farseer left. I love rending psycannons!

I mathhammered 2000 point DE vs GK, tabled the GK in 3 turns . DE are a good army to deal with GK, just make sure you get first turn and you need to destroy his psycannons as soon as possible. Razorbacks, no problem. Lance spam deals with them easily, possibly replace venoms with raiders for the extra DL shots. You only have 1 lance shot atm. The Razorwing is a very good investment. I'd take Baron Sathonyx to help you get that crucial first turn. If you still don't get it, just deploy in cover and pray to the dice gods.

Well it was 2 posts and lance spam you can table me at 2k as well which is nice to know. I think the battle will rest on whether you can take out my psycannons before i take down your transports.

Just waiting now for purifier spam!

Brother Malleus wrote:It went ok considering I was at half strength. Managed to take down Wraithlord, Swooping Hawks, Striking Scorpions and half a jetbike squad. He had guardians and dire avengers and farseer left. I love rending psycannons!

Nice! I'll have to keep an eye out for those! How were his dice rolls though, was there a fair bit of luck for you or was just a complete pwning from the off?

Painbiro wrote:I mathhammered 2000 point DE vs GK, tabled the GK in 3 turns . DE are a good army to deal with GK, just make sure you get first turn and you need to destroy his psycannons as soon as possible. Razorbacks, no problem. Lance spam deals with them easily, possibly replace venoms with raiders for the extra DL shots. You only have 1 lance shot atm. The Razorwing is a very good investment. I'd take Baron Sathonyx to help you get that crucial first turn. If you still don't get it, just deploy in cover and pray to the dice gods.

Nice win, though I bet your opponent didn't think so! Agreed that I should do alright if I get first turn, though I'm working on ways of getting around that eventuallity (without adjusting my list) should I not get the roll! I'm maxed out on points (I think I'm 3 points over if memory serves, you OK with that Malleus?! I'll let you do the same ) Can't replace the venoms as doing so takes my points up, though I'm happy with that as I'm not a huge fan of the Raider model (too many blank sections on the hull, not enough skill to fill them in!) I was also wary of putting too much dark light weaponry in there asI didn't want to come up with a spam list (though the first few lists I wrote up may have been a little more blaster born orientated... anyone wana see the other lists I dreamt up?). On Sathonyx, yes, I could, and it would be the sensible thing to do but he's more points, which means I have less models altogether and I'm not really one for taking SC's tbh

Brother Malleus wrote:Well it was 2 posts and lance spam you can table me at 2k as well which is nice to know. I think the battle will rest on whether you can take out my psycannons before i take down your transports.

Just waiting now for purifier spam!

Those psycannons are in the bag lol I need to have a look through the GK codex though, I have no idea what eac thing is, need to do some research! Are purifiers the ones with the incinerators? There's a tasty sounding apocalypse formation in this months WD you may be interested in if youhaven't seen it yet

Incinerators are basically heavy flamers with better strength and ap. I not running purifiers as i hope that cc isn't reached.

For the game i just shot at the biggest and fastest things first before getting bladestormed and.then assaulted which wiped me out. Even though every gk has a force weapon

Cool beans sorry about the wipeout though! Hope I have as much luck!

Now then, just a thought, my list comes in at 653 points, fancy adding some search lights, or a servitor skull or something?

I'll let you have the 3 points..(i have a little OCD when it comes to my lists and being on limit as well as modelling WYSIWYG)

Your call dude, though remember I have night vision, yiy might want the search lights just in case!

In small pt games, you need numbers. Just two Strike squads led by a cheap Inquisitor. Squeeze in a Psyfleman Dread if you can.

A Psyfleman Dread and some Pali's are going into the 1k list I think, probably have to drop some henchmen but hey ho

and I'll pop them too lol

yeah that idea has disappeared... i just seen the FW land Raider parts *dribble* at 1.5k is it cheesey to have 2

If your playing dark eldar, I would recommend this list to you.

2 haemonculai w shatter rifles

20 warriors w 2 dark lances

20 warriors w 2 dark lances

that should leave you with some points to fit a venom in there you just wone be able to ride in it XD

You could try 4 10 man squads of warriors with 4 haemonculai and if there is cover put them in it. Cause now you have 40+ models on the table with alot of dakka and 4+ with a 4+fnp

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:If your playing dark eldar, I would recommend this list to you.

2 haemonculai w shatter rifles

20 warriors w 2 dark lances

20 warriors w 2 dark lances

that should leave you with some points to fit a venom in there you just wone be able to ride in it XD

You could try 4 10 man squads of warriors with 4 haemonculai and if there is cover put them in it. Cause now you have 40+ models on the table with alot of dakka and 4+ with a 4+fnp

So...you can't buy a transport in the DE codex if you can't fit in it. Also, the OP is specifically trying to avoid a spammy list. While I do think that having a unit of 20 warriors with two dark lances might be a good idea, taking two of them probably wouldn't be a very good idea anyways, because they aren't fearless, so they will probably run away when someone does five whole casualties to the squad (which is pretty easy).

I had a hexrifle in.my first list, changed it entirly though as I realised I'd not got many wounds on the board.

I think de HAVE to be played fast / mounted in transport though, the only possible list to the contrary being haemy covenant, wracks n grotesques, plus incubi with haemy for share the pain / strong cc

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So...you can't buy a transport in the DE codex if you can't fit in it. Also, the OP is specifically trying to avoid a spammy list. While I do think that having a unit of 20 warriors with two dark lances might be a good idea, taking two of them probably wouldn't be a very good idea anyways, because they aren't fearless, so they will probably run away when someone does five whole casualties to the squad (which is pretty easy).

IF you dont mind, could you provide a reference for that? AFAIK the only restriction for dedicated transports is the quantity of models that can go inside it, and only the purchasing unit may embark in it during deployment (which they wouldnt be able to do if they were to large a unit)

Its like SM or GK purchasing a razorback for a 10 model squad

Add in to that that doing so means there'd be 18 splinter rifles going unused for min 2 turns just to get those 2 dl shots, a better bet would be to put 3 trueborn out, 2 with dl + 1 with shardcarbine for close fire support, though your looking at 90 something points just for those 3 models

maybe you would see razorspam armies, like this

HQ,
Coteaz 100

Troops

3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92

3x assasin, razorback 90 (here goes Coteaz)

this way you have a lot of mobility, very good heavy weapons. and a lot of scoring units.

Coteaz and his Sanctuary psy power is a very good defender.

greetings

Rurik wrote:maybe you would see razorspam armies, like this

HQ,
Coteaz 100

Troops

3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92
3x warrior acolyte, razorback w/ lasplas cannon 92

3x assasin, razorback 90 (here goes Coteaz)

this way you have a lot of mobility, very good heavy weapons. and a lot of scoring units.

Coteaz and his Sanctuary psy power is a very good defender.

greetings

You have no idea how tempting this is for me lol


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kitch102 wrote:Add in to that that doing so means there'd be 18 splinter rifles going unused for min 2 turns just to get those 2 dl shots, a better bet would be to put 3 trueborn out, 2 with dl + 1 with shardcarbine for close fire support, though your looking at 90 something points just for those 3 models

fine by me

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:

spyguyyoda wrote:

So...you can't buy a transport in the DE codex if you can't fit in it. Also, the OP is specifically trying to avoid a spammy list. While I do think that having a unit of 20 warriors with two dark lances might be a good idea, taking two of them probably wouldn't be a very good idea anyways, because they aren't fearless, so they will probably run away when someone does five whole casualties to the squad (which is pretty easy).

IF you dont mind, could you provide a reference for that? AFAIK the only restriction for dedicated transports is the quantity of models that can go inside it, and only the purchasing unit may embark in it during deployment (which they wouldnt be able to do if they were to large a unit)

Well, my codex seems to have gone rogue, so I can't give you the exact page number, but it is under the dedicated transport section in the back. (I believe it is under the Reaver section, across from the Beastmaster entry) The paragraph in bold states that units can only take transports they don't fit in. As far as I know, DE and Orks are the only ones restricted by this...


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Brother Malleus wrote:Its like SM or GK purchasing a razorback for a 10 model squad

GK and SM can do so because the FAQ clarifies that they can. Orks and DE have a rule in their codex saying they can't. So...it's not really the same at all...

my bad, for some strange reason I assumed all codex's were logically the same with restrictions. ha gw and logic

Brother Malleus wrote:yeah that idea has disappeared... i just seen the FW land Raider parts *dribble* at 1.5k is it cheesey to have 2

Nah its cool, do it, it just gives me 2 bonfires to roast your holy flesh over once I've blown em both to Terra and back

Brother Malleus wrote:my bad, for some strange reason I assumed all codex's were logically the same with restrictions. ha gw and logic

LOL. No, it IS logical...

Ok, are they Space Marines?
No.
Ok, well, do they wear power armor?
No.
Ok, well, then they have to follow this arbitrary rule when no one else does.

kitch102 wrote:

Brother Malleus wrote:yeah that idea has disappeared... i just seen the FW land Raider parts *dribble* at 1.5k is it cheesey to have 2

Nah its cool, do it, it just gives me 2 bonfires to roast your holy flesh over once I've blown em both to Terra and back

Ooooh its on Xenos scum... wonder if any of GW in London are open for a little boxing day trade

London? I doubt it, seems that all UK stores are closed til tomorrow


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Ps, screw you mon-keigh! I'll make a wrack out of your comnander, bet the inquisition wouldn't expect that!

dammit I'll have to wait till I'm back in Leeds 2mrw then...

I actually cannot wait to play and expand with you

Haha, i know what you mean mate, though be careful how you phrase that lmao! Getting my venoms and incubi from wakey tomorrow all.being well