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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Bicarb doesn't kill cancer, it may kill fungus, but not cancer. When you biopsy a tumor or any sort of cancer you get to see what's in those cells and guess what, there's no fungus there. The fact that this quack is pushing sodium bicarbonate as a cure for cancer and has killed several people while "curing" them tells me that this is not a true thing.

Also, you do know that human blood operates within a certain spread of alkalinity vs acidity right? Human blood must remain between 7.35 and 7.45 in order to stay healthy, if you start injecting people with bases then you're going to kill them.
   
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In the belly of the whale.

Rented Tritium wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
dogma wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Also, by turning your blood into an alkaline, the cancer will die.


Everyone has alkaline blood, acidic blood can kill you, as can overly alkaline blood.


Yes, naturally you do have alkaline blood. But the modern diet turns it slightly acidic which, as you said, is very bad and why cancer is so prevalent these days. Hell, a 1/3 chance of getting cancer... It just sucks to say the least.


No, this is a lie. Acidic starts at 6.9, that will kill you dead. A human cannot survive with blood outside of a very small range on the alkaline side of 7


Wrong. Your blood can become acidic without killing you. It will be bad for your health, definitely i.e. allowing cancer to thrive.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Ie; your organs and cells begin to DIE!

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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Dreadwinter wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:In re: the original post:

"Cure" isn't really the right word. It's a new method of tumor treatment. That doesn't really stop metastasis, so it's not really a cure.

It's an awesome technique that will probably get adapted.

I know he's going to flame me for this, but you guys need to not listen to deadly squirrel. He's posting nonsense pseudoscience that could get you hurt.




I don't flame.Chill, bro.

We just have different opinions. Mine based from personal experience and yours from mass media.


Scientific Facts vs. Holistic Hoodoo, you mean?


When your father looks you in the eye and says "I might not make it" then cures himself, you will open your mind to my "Holistic Hoodoo"


Post hoc ergo propter hoc



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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
dogma wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Also, by turning your blood into an alkaline, the cancer will die.


Everyone has alkaline blood, acidic blood can kill you, as can overly alkaline blood.


Yes, naturally you do have alkaline blood. But the modern diet turns it slightly acidic which, as you said, is very bad and why cancer is so prevalent these days. Hell, a 1/3 chance of getting cancer... It just sucks to say the least.


No, this is a lie. Acidic starts at 6.9, that will kill you dead. A human cannot survive with blood outside of a very small range on the alkaline side of 7


Wrong. Your blood can become acidic without killing you. It will be bad for your health, definitely i.e. allowing cancer to thrive.


No, seriously it can't. If your blood pH drops below 7.0, you are going to die very quickly. Are you positing that everyone who has cancer has blood pH of less than 7? Because that would be nonsense.


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halonachos wrote:Ie; your organs and cells begin to DIE!


You also get to force anyone in base to base contact to take an initiative test or take wounds.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

The fungus being blamed is also natural to your body, so guess what, if you destroy it you're going to mess yourself over too. Candidiasis, the condition of candida infection occurs because of cancer treatments, its also common in HIV/AIDS patients. So if you want to tell us that fungus causes HIV/AIDS then fungus does not cause cancer. Your dad may have treated his candidiasis which persisted after the cancer treatments but he did not cure the cancer, if your dad was suffering from candidiasis then the symptoms he associated with "cancer" were from the fungal infection he got.

I would recommend that your dad get checked again, although I doubt he will after "curing" himself, just to make sure he's not ignoring another growing cancer.

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In the belly of the whale.

Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.

As I have said several times in other threads here, any scientist who disagrees with the general consensus receives "the black spot" and is banned from publishing his work in major scientific magazines.

kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.


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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Yes, naturally you do have alkaline blood. But the modern diet turns it slightly acidic which, as you said, is very bad and why cancer is so prevalent these days. Hell, a 1/3 chance of getting cancer... It just sucks to say the least.


As has been said, if your blood becomes acidic (pH 6.99) you will die.

Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. 
   
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In the belly of the whale.

And it isn't that fungus you mentioned. Many think it is a normally harmless virus infected by a fungus...

kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.


"War is as natural to a man as maternity is to a woman." 
   
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.


It means there is a very low probability of being right, especially when you can very easily pH test your own blood.

Of course, I suppose you likely believe you're one of the rare people with alkaline blood.

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DeadlySquirrel wrote:And it isn't that fungus you mentioned. Many think it is a normally harmless virus infected by a fungus...

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Viruses infected by fungus? How can something larger than a virus infect a virus? That's like saying you have an aircraft carrier inside of your VW Beetle.

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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
When your father looks you in the eye and says "I might not make it" then cures himself, you will open your mind to my "Holistic Hoodoo"


I imagine that your father made a habit of breathing when he was with cancer, surely that must have been the cure.

Correlation is not causation.

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In the belly of the whale.

dogma wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.


It means there is a very low probability of being right, especially when you can very easily pH test your own blood.

Of course, I suppose you likely believe you're one of the rare people with alkaline blood.


Wrong. I know I am acidic, but I'm cutting down on the gak food and I am taking supplements to combat it.

EDIT and I meant fungus infected with a virus. My mistake.

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kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.


"War is as natural to a man as maternity is to a woman." 
   
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
dogma wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.


It means there is a very low probability of being right, especially when you can very easily pH test your own blood.

Of course, I suppose you likely believe you're one of the rare people with alkaline blood.


Wrong. I know I am acidic, but I'm cutting down on the gak food and I am taking supplements to combat it.


You should be heading to the hospital right now, then, because your organs are failing.


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DeadlySquirrel wrote:EDIT and I meant fungus infected with a virus. My mistake.

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DeadlySquirrel wrote: Many think it is a normally harmless virus infected by a fungus...


That's not possible due to the mechanics of scale.

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In the belly of the whale.

Rented Tritium wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
dogma wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.


It means there is a very low probability of being right, especially when you can very easily pH test your own blood.

Of course, I suppose you likely believe you're one of the rare people with alkaline blood.


Wrong. I know I am acidic, but I'm cutting down on the gak food and I am taking supplements to combat it.


You should be heading to the hospital right now, then, because your organs are failing.


Nope. I have been through all sorts of tests, they thought I had kidney failure though. That sucked. SO they diagnosed me with chronic fatigue syndrome. YAY.

kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.


"War is as natural to a man as maternity is to a woman." 
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

If its a fungus infected by a virus, then that means it all boils down to it being a virus's fault.
   
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Wrong. I know I am acidic, but I'm cutting down on the gak food and I am taking supplements to combat it.


Who told you that your blood is acidic?

Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. 
   
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Or you know, we could actually accept the scientific consensus that cancer is caused by genetic damage from various sources such as cellular aging and carcinogens.
   
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In the belly of the whale.

Is it possible for me to post in Off-Topic without you all derailing the thread into personal attacks on my beliefs?

On topic, as previously mentioned, the woman has found a treatment for cancer. I doubt it is cured 100%

kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.


"War is as natural to a man as maternity is to a woman." 
   
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Nope. I have been through all sorts of tests, they thought I had kidney failure though. That sucked. SO they diagnosed me with chronic fatigue syndrome. YAY.


I think what you mean is that your blood is too acidic, that you suffer from acidosis, which often results from kidney problems, not that your blood is actually acidic.

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DeadlySquirrel wrote:Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.

As I have said several times in other threads here, any scientist who disagrees with the general consensus receives "the black spot" and is banned from publishing his work in major scientific magazines.


As are idiots also. A basic knowledge of biology will tell you the difference between the two.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

dogma wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Wrong. I know I am acidic, but I'm cutting down on the gak food and I am taking supplements to combat it.


Who told you that your blood is acidic?


Maybe he cut himself and mushrooms instantly sprouted from it?

Also, Acidosis, which is when your blood is at a pH below 7.35.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acidosis

Get some real knowledge here, but I think it may say something about the British Medical System if an actual doctor told him that.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0W7Jbc_Vhw

Relevant

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halonachos wrote:
Get some real knowledge here, but I think it may say something about the British Medical System if an actual doctor told him that.


He may have misspoke, or DeadleySquirrel may have misunderstood.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

dogma wrote:
halonachos wrote:
Get some real knowledge here, but I think it may say something about the British Medical System if an actual doctor told him that.


He may have misspoke, or DeadleySquirrel may have misunderstood.


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DeadlySquirrel wrote:Is it possible for me to post in Off-Topic without you all derailing the thread into personal attacks on my beliefs?


A personal attack is saying that you are stupid for believing those things. Nobody here is doing that.

Arguing with your beliefs which you shared of your own accord is not a personal attack, it is debate

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In the belly of the whale.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.

As I have said several times in other threads here, any scientist who disagrees with the general consensus receives "the black spot" and is banned from publishing his work in major scientific magazines.


As are idiots also. A basic knowledge of biology will tell you the difference between the two.


The UN's weather monitor is programmed to ALWAYS prove global warming is real, no matter what figures are put in it. It's a con to get taxes. Any scientist who says otherwise is quickly silenced. It's the same with cancer, any scientist who proves he can cure cancer with anything other than already prescribed treatments or shows that the prescribed treatments do more harm than good is quickly silenced.

kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.


"War is as natural to a man as maternity is to a woman." 
   
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
DeadlySquirrel wrote:Believe what you wanna believe. But just because I do not follow the general scientific consensus doesn't mean I am wrong.

As I have said several times in other threads here, any scientist who disagrees with the general consensus receives "the black spot" and is banned from publishing his work in major scientific magazines.


As are idiots also. A basic knowledge of biology will tell you the difference between the two.


The UN's weather monitor is programmed to ALWAYS prove global warming is real, no matter what figures are put in it. It's a con to get taxes. Any scientist who says otherwise is quickly silenced. It's the same with cancer, any scientist who proves he can cure cancer with anything other than already prescribed treatments or shows that the prescribed treatments do more harm than good is quickly silenced.


I understand how it may look like that. Scientists say those things and then they get blackballed.

The thing is, the reason this keeps happening is that the only scientists who do things like that are actually bad scientists and are getting blackballed for being bad scientists.


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Let's make a scenario, let's say 3 people are standing around looking at the blue sky and talking about how it is blue. Someone else comes up and says "it's purple, I have all this data" but the data comes from flawed methodology and the person has allowed a little bit of crazy to color the work.

When the 3 blueskyers stop letting the purpleskyer talk at their conventions, did they blackball him for speaking the truth or did they blackball him for repeatedly pushing a disproven assertion?

That is basically what is happening here. Those blackballed scientists are actually horrible at science and are trying to get things published that have little to no scientific merit or proper methodology.

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No, they get the black spot because they're right. There is no global warming. Even Al Gore came out and said it was a lie. It is the same with cancer.

It happened with the TB outbreak over here before pasteurisation. The government knew exactly what was causing the TB (milk) but didn't take action and allowed many to die unnecessarily because of the money they made from the milk.

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