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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
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Henners91 wrote:We can say that old games had better endings, but I think the technology is what's made delivery so much more memorable; a script still has to come alive, no matter how good.
That being said, my list worried me; I know that games have emotionally affected me in the past (Mafia I anyone? Wait... I forgot about that, maybe it should have gone on the list ) and yet I struggle to remember them (Oooh Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30!). Holy crap, so many games do have good endings if you struggle to remember them...
Really?
So, if i make a game with great graphics but a script where every other word is a mix of Clock, Mushroom or Tiger you think it's gonna have a 'memorable ending'?
And by memorable i mean good.
Give it an above-average script, though not quite to the standards of old (when Chaucer was apparently doing all the writing) and you will probably blow me away.
Not that I am defending CoD here. The only good CoD ending was CoD4's and that was just a dramatic setpiece. MW2 was orful and Black Ops was incredibly underwhelming (CoD had given us a tradition of beating bad guys to a pulp and all I do is drown the guy?)
The least they could havelet you do is cut his hands and feet off then throw him in the ocean.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Black and White had the best ending out of all Pokemon Games released.
That's really not saying much now is it?
Actually, I think that Pokemon games are excellent. Granted, the plots are predictable, but at least B/W added something.
Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.
Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
1. Portal 2/Portal 1
2. Machinarium
3. Braid
4. Kingdom Hearts 2
5. Amnesia: The Dark Descent
6. Bioshock
7. Silent Hill 2
8. Final Fantasy VII
9. Half Life (series in general)
10. Limbo
Runners up: DooM, Painkiller and Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth.
That would be my list. Sometimes, game wise...less story is better story. Whats unsaid can have a powerful impact and how easily the story is made apparent to the reader is important too.
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The thing is, people keep saying that the people that voted obviously can't remember more than 5 years ago, and thats the reason that BLOPS won.
Have you considered that possibly they did vote for other games, but because more people have played BLOPS, more people would vote for it.
You can't really expect people to vote for games that they haven't played, and more people would be able to vote for BLOPS than other games because they've actually played BLOPs.
Yeah this is a stupid list. Ok I'm biased myself and would put HL1 and DoW2 up there but BLOPs being top is either a major trolling or a deomnstration of the kind of idiots we have for a gaming community. I also noticed there's at least 3 Halo games... seriously? Lastly InFamous should of been higher up.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
Yeah I was shocked that the Halo games appeared in that list. Good series but none of the endings were at all memorable, mostly because they were all left wide open for "Play sequel."
LordofHats wrote:Yeah I was shocked that the Halo games appeared in that list. Good series but none of the endings were at all memorable, mostly because they were all left wide open for "Play sequel."
Barring Halo reach, though that was just a really well done last stand, nothing more.
But yeah, not diserving of a win for it. It's got plenty of other things going for it anyway
LordofHats wrote:Yeah I was shocked that the Halo games appeared in that list. Good series but none of the endings were at all memorable, mostly because they were all left wide open for "Play sequel."
Also, D2 LoD ending anyone?
whats that?
Oh, Diablo 2 lords of destruction.
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Peace through power!
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To be fair, there are two games on there that are pre-2000...out of fifty. (Final Fantasy VII, number 9, was 1997, and Super Metroid at 42 was in 1994)
Ugh, top ten? I don't know if I've finished ten games.
I think I'm not going to bother ranking them. Honestly, for a long time I could pick apart Final Fantasy VII's flaws and the things that bugged me about the game. When I went to play through it again recently, however, I found almost nothing annoying about the game. My point is, when I'm playing a game, my mindset is that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. For me, at least, it'd be really hard to order 10 games because whatever I just finished will seem like number one. And I'll try to start things off with Ribon Fox's little template.
Final Fantasy VII
Spoiler:
Having defeated Sephiroth once and for all, the team boards the Highwind and flies out of the Northern Cave to watch the White Materia do its magic. It goes up and forms a shield, but it's too late - Sephiroth's Meteor is already too close to the planet to be stopped. In the end, with everyone despairing over the end of the world, the planet itself uses the Lifestream to save itself from Meteor.
Honestly, I have a love/hate relationship with this ending. I absolutely love the ending for the emotion and the shock of the team's entire effort just being useless, and the music is just amazing throughout the finale, but when you look at it, it's a freaking deus ex machina ending. The team struggles to stop Meteor, and actually fails - the planet has to finish the job for them.
Mass Effect 2 (Good Ending)
Spoiler:
His team finally assembled and prepared, Shepard takes the Normandy through the Omega 4 Relay in order to challenge the Collectors directly. His team fights a long, treacherous battle through the Collector fleet and ultimately discovers that they were harvesting humans to create their own Reaper. Shepard destroys it and, with the help of his team, makes out alive - but not before he learns that the Reapers are set to return to Terminus to wipe out all life once again.
What's not to like about this one? It's dramatic, it's tense, and it's got an epic finale that leaves the story open for Mass Effect 3. What really impresses me about the ending is the fact that it's amazingly open-ended depending on how much you prepared for it and how you go through it. Members of your team can die if you don't do it right, and the whole thing can be a literal suicide mission if you haven't prepared the ship for the opening firefight. On top of all that, it ends in a cliffhanger with Shepard learning that the Reapers are coming back, and it's his job to prepare his people for war.
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
Spoiler:
Ratchet and Clank battle their way through the Great Clock to where Azimuth is attempting to rewrite history by shifting the Great Clock backwards to bring back his people, the lombaxes. Ratchet and Clank arrive too late to stop him, and the time shift begins as Ratchet and Azimuth duel. Ratchet defeats Azimuth, but the strain of such a massive shift is too much for the Great Clock, and if it were allowed to complete its shift, it would rip itself apart. Azimuth realizes the error of his ways and uses his wrench to forcibly stop the time shift, saving the day but getting killed by a blast from the Clock.
This one had me in tears at the end. Azimuth was such a great character - loyal to his people, to the point where he would rewrite history itself to bring them back. Ultimately, he was a guy who was just doing what he thought was right. Misguided, but not evil. Ratchet & Clank has always had its share of over the top, pure evil villains, but this was the first whose plan was noble, if destructive. It's just a beautifully tearjerker of an ending.
Kingdom Hearts
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Ansem is defeated, but the Door is still open, allowing for the Heartless to pour over the worlds. Sora and his friends try, but can't find the strength to close it for good, and the Heartless are preparing to strike at him from within the Door. At the last minute, however, Riku and King Mickey show up to lend a hand, staying within the Door itself to ensure that it remains sealed for good. As the Door shuts, Riku tells Sora to "take care of her," referring to their mutual friend, Kairi. But the story doesn't end there - after the Door is closed, Sora finds himself standing in front of Kairi, who is being pulled back to their homeworld of the Destiny Islands. Though they share a heartfelt reunion, Kairi is, in the end, torn away from her love as the worlds are rebuilt and the walls between worlds go up once again.
This one makes me cry whenever I see it. This is all before Kingdom Hearts II, so we didn't know what was going to happen - the game just ends with Riku and Mickey trapped, Kairi torn back to the Destiny Islands, and Sora stranded. It's one of those endings that just leaves you wanting for more.
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Spoiler:
With Volgin defeated, Snake and EVA escape the compound and meet up with the Boss. Snake finally kills his old mentor and he and EVA finally leave back home. In the ending cutscenes, EVA reveals that she's a double-agent, and steals the Philosopher's Legacy for her own country. Snake returns home and is awarded a medal and the title of "Big Boss." The game ends with him visiting an unmarked grave: the grave of the Boss, who would go down in history as one of the United State's greatest traitors, despite the fact that she betrayed them on their orders for a greater cause.
This is another one that makes me cry every time I see it. Say what you will about Metal Gear Solid, it knows how to tell a good story. This ending is just perfect, revealing the origin of Big Boss and also the fact that the Boss, Snake's foe throughout the game, was actually trying to save the Legacy like he was. It's a shocking twist to the game, and seeing Snake tearfully saluting the Boss's grave just clinches it for me. It's a brilliant game with a brilliant ending.
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His team finally assembled and prepared, Shepard takes the Normandy through the Omega 4 Relay in order to challenge the Collectors directly. His team fights a long, treacherous battle through the Collector fleet and ultimately discovers that they were harvesting humans to create their own Reaper. Shepard destroys it and, with the help of his team, makes out alive - but not before he learns that the Reapers are set to return to Terminus to wipe out all life once again.
What's not to like about this one? It's dramatic, it's tense, and it's got an epic finale that leaves the story open for Mass Effect 3. What really impresses me about the ending is the fact that it's amazingly open-ended depending on how much you prepared for it and how you go through it. Members of your team can die if you don't do it right, and the whole thing can be a literal suicide mission if you haven't prepared the ship for the opening firefight. On top of all that, it ends in a cliffhanger with Shepard learning that the Reapers are coming back, and it's his job to prepare his people for war.
Thought I'd fix this one for you:
Spoiler:
His team finally assembled and prepared (yes, it took the whole game to do this; but hey it killed time before ME3 and made a few $$$ eh?), Shepard takes the Normandy through the Omega 4 Relay in order to challenge the Collectors directly. His team sits back and enjoys a long cutscene before discovering that the Collectors were harvesting humans to create their own giant Terminator Baby. After holding back intense laughter at the hilarious visage of this ultimate foe, Shepard destroys the abomination and sends it to ill-conceived villain hell and, with the help of his team, makes it out alive - but not before he learns that the Necrons are set to return to Terminus to wipe out all life once again.
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Bionic Commando and the first Transformers DS game (Decepticon version). One has Hitler's head exploding, the other has Megatron congratulate you for being awesome then killing you because you're too much of a threat.
Guinness has done this before. They're either idiots, or trolling to get more attention.
Here's their list of the 50 Most Influential Games of all time:
Spoiler:
1. Super Mario Kart 2. Tetris 3. Grand Theft Auto 4. Super Mario World 5. Zelda Ocarina of Time 6. Halo 7. Resident Evil IV 8. Final Fantasy XII 9. Street Fighter II 10. GoldenEye 11. Super Mario 64 12. Tomb Raider 13. Metal Gear Solid 14. Call of Duty 4 15. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 16. GTA San Andreas 17. Super Mario Bros 18. Zelda: A Link to the Past 19. Gran Turismo 20. Final Fantasy VII 21. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 22. The Orange Box 23. Lego Star Wars Complete Saga 24. Tekken 2 25. Wii Sports 26. Pokemon Red/Blue 27. Guitar Hero 28. Project Gotham Racing 4 29. Super Mario Galaxy 30. Resident Evil 31. Ico 32. Chrono Trigger 33. Gunstar Heroes 34. Soul Calibur 35. Advance Wars 36. Ridge Racer 37. Super Metroid 38. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 39. GTA Vice City 40. BioShock 41. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 42. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 43. God of War 44. Sega Rally Championship 45. Starfox 64 46. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 47. WarioWare Inc 48. Saturn Bomberman 49. Crash Bandicoot 50. Outrun 2
Really? Super Mario Kart is the most influential game of all time? And Super Mario Brothers comes in at 17???
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His team finally assembled and prepared, Shepard takes the Normandy through the Omega 4 Relay in order to challenge the Collectors directly. His team fights a long, treacherous battle through the Collector fleet and ultimately discovers that they were harvesting humans to create their own Reaper. Shepard destroys it and, with the help of his team, makes out alive - but not before he learns that the Reapers are set to return to Terminus to wipe out all life once again.
What's not to like about this one? It's dramatic, it's tense, and it's got an epic finale that leaves the story open for Mass Effect 3. What really impresses me about the ending is the fact that it's amazingly open-ended depending on how much you prepared for it and how you go through it. Members of your team can die if you don't do it right, and the whole thing can be a literal suicide mission if you haven't prepared the ship for the opening firefight. On top of all that, it ends in a cliffhanger with Shepard learning that the Reapers are coming back, and it's his job to prepare his people for war.
Thought I'd fix this one for you:
Spoiler:
His team finally assembled and prepared (yes, it took the whole game to do this; but hey it killed time before ME3 and made a few $$$ eh?), Shepard takes the Normandy through the Omega 4 Relay in order to challenge the Collectors directly. His team sits back and enjoys a long cutscene before discovering that the Collectors were harvesting humans to create their own giant Terminator Baby. After holding back intense laughter at the hilarious visage of this ultimate foe, Shepard destroys the abomination and sends it to ill-conceived villain hell and, with the help of his team, makes it out alive - but not before he learns that the Necrons are set to return to Terminus to wipe out all life once again.
Lol, as much as I liked ME2, I do have to admit the end boss was a bit silly looking.
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Grakmar wrote:Guinness has done this before. They're either idiots, or trolling to get more attention.
Here's their list of the 50 Most Influential Games of all time:
Spoiler:
1. Super Mario Kart 2. Tetris 3. Grand Theft Auto 4. Super Mario World 5. Zelda Ocarina of Time 6. Halo 7. Resident Evil IV 8. Final Fantasy XII 9. Street Fighter II 10. GoldenEye 11. Super Mario 64 12. Tomb Raider 13. Metal Gear Solid 14. Call of Duty 4 15. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 16. GTA San Andreas 17. Super Mario Bros 18. Zelda: A Link to the Past 19. Gran Turismo 20. Final Fantasy VII 21. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 22. The Orange Box 23. Lego Star Wars Complete Saga 24. Tekken 2 25. Wii Sports 26. Pokemon Red/Blue 27. Guitar Hero 28. Project Gotham Racing 4 29. Super Mario Galaxy 30. Resident Evil 31. Ico 32. Chrono Trigger 33. Gunstar Heroes 34. Soul Calibur 35. Advance Wars 36. Ridge Racer 37. Super Metroid 38. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 39. GTA Vice City 40. BioShock 41. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 42. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 43. God of War 44. Sega Rally Championship 45. Starfox 64 46. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 47. WarioWare Inc 48. Saturn Bomberman 49. Crash Bandicoot 50. Outrun 2
Really? Super Mario Kart is the most influential game of all time? And Super Mario Brothers comes in at 17???
Ok, 5+ things
1) The Orange Box is not a game! It is a compilation of games! 2) Where the feth is silent hill! 3) Where the feth is fallout! 4)Where the feth is starcraft! 5) where the feth is Command and Conquer! 6) Where the feth is...oh, you fill in the blanks, I can't be bothered
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Why isn't Knights of the Old Republic mentioned?
Or Mass Effect 1?
Those endings were epic.
Same with the ending for the silent hill games. And Alan Wade. NO MENTION?
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.