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Schepp himself wrote:Ok guys, does anyone remember Heart of Darkness? 1998ish jump and run? Little boy fighting against shadows?
The story was simple (you want to rescue your dog) but the ending was awesome. One of the hardest fights I ever had (on hard obviously) but soooooo deserving. Still smile when I think about it.

Greets
Schepp himself

P.S. All of Skyrims storylines are anti-climatic and boring as hell. No real personalities in this game ffs!

sounds good. Is it on PC?

It was on PC but I'm unsure of its availability.

Henners91 wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Henners91 wrote:We can say that old games had better endings, but I think the technology is what's made delivery so much more memorable; a script still has to come alive, no matter how good.

That being said, my list worried me; I know that games have emotionally affected me in the past (Mafia I anyone? Wait... I forgot about that, maybe it should have gone on the list ) and yet I struggle to remember them (Oooh Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30!). Holy crap, so many games do have good endings if you struggle to remember them...

Really?
So, if i make a game with great graphics but a script where every other word is a mix of Clock, Mushroom or Tiger you think it's gonna have a 'memorable ending'?
And by memorable i mean good.

Give it an above-average script, though not quite to the standards of old (when Chaucer was apparently doing all the writing) and you will probably blow me away.

Not that I am defending CoD here. The only good CoD ending was CoD4's and that was just a dramatic setpiece. MW2 was orful and Black Ops was incredibly underwhelming (CoD had given us a tradition of beating bad guys to a pulp and all I do is drown the guy?)

So...
It's almost just about visual quality for you?

LordofHats wrote:
I agree that it was more interesting but this is my basic gripe with DA2: "Okay DA2. Mages good. Templars bad. I get that. The Mages are being treated horribly and are being oppressed by an autocratic/theocratic system where they're less than human and I should support them. Well. Why does every mage I try to help go DARK-SIDE! I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for them but come on. I'd like to help a mage who doesn't resort to blood magic the moment the going gets rough. I mean come on. I have to side with the Templars on this one these mages are out of control!"

I never read blood magic as evil, per se. It uses blood to power spells, but its not specific on where that blood comes from.

dogma wrote:

LordofHats wrote:
I agree that it was more interesting but this is my basic gripe with DA2: "Okay DA2. Mages good. Templars bad. I get that. The Mages are being treated horribly and are being oppressed by an autocratic/theocratic system where they're less than human and I should support them. Well. Why does every mage I try to help go DARK-SIDE! I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for them but come on. I'd like to help a mage who doesn't resort to blood magic the moment the going gets rough. I mean come on. I have to side with the Templars on this one these mages are out of control!"

I never read blood magic as evil, per se. It uses blood to power spells, but its not specific on where that blood comes from.

IIRC, it's mentioned in the Mage's Guild main quest (I may be wrong) that some students were trying to use human sacrifices as fuel for magic.

That said, it's hard to believe that anything happy and fun can come from a guy who's fueling his spells by ramming a dagger into his arm.

Yeah. That and the effects of blood magic have a tendency to be quite disastrous. Mutation into an abomination, possession, sociopathic tendencies. Blood magic is obviously set up by the story-line to be the Dragon Age Dark Side of the Force? Why? WHo knows. The story just set it up that way (That and most of them end up killing somebody, or trying, or doing something else that I assume is morally reprehensible).

I thought Crysis should have been further up. As well as Dark Souls. Definately Dark Souls for the number of people who just plainly agree that its an amazing and insanely rewarding game, with a great original mechanism idea.

Locclo wrote:
IIRC, it's mentioned in the Mage's Guild main quest (I may be wrong) that some students were trying to use human sacrifices as fuel for magic.

Sure, but the blood magic you can actually use in the game is based on your own blood, or the blood of people that are attacking you.


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LordofHats wrote:Yeah. That and the effects of blood magic have a tendency to be quite disastrous. Mutation into an abomination, possession, sociopathic tendencies. Blood magic is obviously set up by the story-line to be the Dragon Age Dark Side of the Force? Why? WHo knows. The story just set it up that way (That and most of them end up killing somebody, or trying, or doing something else that I assume is morally reprehensible).

I suspect that's mostly the result of prejudice. Blood magic is banned, and frowned upon even more than ordinary magic, so people that use it are likely to be sociopathic to some degree anyway.

I don't recall it being established as being more likely to cause possession or abomination, those seemed to be pretty even across all mages, and even if that was mentioned it can easily be chalked up to Templar propaganda.

A grey and gray world, as it were.

Its specifically mentioned within the lore of DAO as being dark magic and in both games is portrayed as evil and immoral. There's a codex entry about its corrupting influence. I mean, I've had complaints about the stupidity behind the dark side of the force (so if I get angry I'm automatically evil? That's nice), but that's the way its presented.

LordofHats wrote:Its specifically mentioned within the lore of DAO as being dark magic and in both games is portrayed as evil and immoral. There's a codex entry about its corrupting influence. I mean, I've had complaints about the stupidity behind the dark side of the force (so if I get angry I'm automatically evil? That's nice), but that's the way its presented.

Sure, but the Templars are also presented as being prejudicial, and in many ways just as evil. The driving theme of the game is that there really isn't a "right" choice.

Indeed, that's 90% of the reason for Morrigan to exist as a character.

dogma wrote:Sure, but the Templars are also presented as being prejudicial, and in many ways just as evil. The driving theme of the game is that there really isn't a "right" choice.

They are and it seems obvious to me that I'm supposed to feel bad for the mages, but its really hard when they're mostly made up of abominations, serial killers, necromancers, and murders. Almost every mage in DA2 turns out that way.

It's also not just the Templars, the Dalish are the same in their opinions of blood magic.

LordofHats wrote:
They are and it seems obvious to me that I'm supposed to feel bad for the mages, but its really hard when they're mostly made up of abominations, serial killers, necromancers, and murders. Almost every mage in DA2 turns out that way.

I'm not sure there's enough of a moral high ground in DA, or DA2, to call anyone a murderer.

Then there's the Templar interrogating the Dwarf, his name escapes me (the dwarf's), under threat of torture.

LordofHats wrote:
It's also not just the Templars, the Dalish are the same in their opinions of blood magic.

They're also gypsy terrorists.

Its basically just a crapsack world in which either everyone is evil, or no one is. Well, or one in which the idea of good vs. evil is just based on preference (ie. just like the real world).

This thread in a nutshell