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Congrats on winning with a weird and cool list.

You were super-lucky with your match-ups. First thing I thought when looking at your list was "man, that is geared to eat mech IG alive", and then you get three IG opponents?

Weird that a player at the top table would start his mech IG on the table (and move around in the first turn) against your list. As was shown, Imotekh can win games against mech IG by himself, and Orikan is just one more reason to start in reserve. Same with the GK player, ridicolous choice to start moving those 2x500+ units with a 1/3 chance of immobilizing? When you have no way to threaten him from afar? Your opponents can't blame the dice too much, it is not exactly that improbable that Imotekh/Orikan will knock out a lot of tanks if you play into their hands. They lost because of bad decisions.

Looks like you had a lot of fun! Good to see the newest codex competing with the big boys!

This to me was an epic win. I'm putting the hot dice aside as anyone whoever won a GT had hot dice - the stars were finally all aligned for Norbu much like little Orikan. I think this was an epic win because it was a xenos army. Necrons have come out of the starting gate smoking hot for 2012. This particular army is very specialized in my opinion - some of us here have discussed TremorCronz in great detail and I don't think it's an EZ win army but it does have a lot of tools to take on the top of the current meta - especially treads. It seems like Imperial searchlights came up short this past weekend. It will be interesting to see how things progress for here on into the rest of the season.

Interesting Necrons go 3 for 3 and its just sweet deal. Such a fickle crowd in 40k. lol Grats to the winner though he pulled out some tough games.

Draigo wrote:Interesting Necrons go 3 for 3 and its just sweet deal. Such a fickle crowd in 40k. lol Grats to the winner though he pulled out some tough games.

Nobody likes a bully. But everyone likes a plucky underdog who pulls it out. That list drips innovation and, frankly, courage. The list itself doesn't scare anyone, you have to be good and lucky.

It's pretty cool, actually.

Randall Turner wrote:

Draigo wrote:Interesting Necrons go 3 for 3 and its just sweet deal. Such a fickle crowd in 40k. lol Grats to the winner though he pulled out some tough games.

Nobody likes a bully. But everyone likes a plucky underdog who pulls it out. That list drips innovation and, frankly, courage. The list itself doesn't scare anyone, you have to be good and lucky.

It's pretty cool, actually.

You still think after all 3 GT were won by 3 different cron lists that they're still underdogs? 3 for 3 doesn't say underdog to me. lol

Draigo wrote:

Randall Turner wrote:

Draigo wrote:Interesting Necrons go 3 for 3 and its just sweet deal. Such a fickle crowd in 40k. lol Grats to the winner though he pulled out some tough games.

Nobody likes a bully. But everyone likes a plucky underdog who pulls it out. That list drips innovation and, frankly, courage. The list itself doesn't scare anyone, you have to be good and lucky.

It's pretty cool, actually.

You still think after all 3 GT were won by 3 different cron lists that they're still underdogs? 3 for 3 doesn't say underdog to me. lol

It's still early, but it looks as if they can be a force to be reckoned with in competitive play. The true test will be when opponents wise up to how good the new necrons can be and start taking them seriously.

One thing's for sure though....necrons have changed the competitive meta. They have made anti-night-fight wargear a must in competitive play and I have a feeling that they will be shifting the competitive meta away from pure MSU-mech.

jy2 wrote: The true test will be when opponents wise up to how good the new necrons can be and start taking them seriously.

this is it in a nutshell. i don't have enough testing against necrons yet but from all the lists i've seen, if you have an answer for wraiths and scarabs, you are doing something right.

I feel that the most telling is the wraiths. Necrons all seem to want to assault. either into your most vital units with wraiths or into your vehicles with scarabs. wraiths keep coming up as lynchpins of the assault factor. I say AT LEAST have a plan to handle wraiths or be prepared to play your game in the necrons' court.

No one enjoys seeing the same old mech msu space wolves win a tournament again, but throw in a no-vehicle interesting list and it's fun to read about its victories.

Out of curiousity, how many scarab bases do you bring to a tournament?

EDIT: the cool color scheme helps too

I brought 9 bases to start.........and I had another 30 with me for 5 turns of creating bases. I figured by turn 6 a few would be killed so I could recycle.

As far as how to deal with Necrons.....GK give my type of list A LOT of problems. Also, Mech IG does ok as long as Imotekh isnt around. Nullzone, and Vulcan can also hang with the Wraithwing/scarabs fairly well. Thunderfires are not kind to the scarabs either........even that cheap whirlwind everyone makes fun of.

I think guard may have to use units like Ogryn, DE may have to embrace Grotesques (S6). People cant just SPAM MSU and just shoot their problems away anymore.....it may take some combined arms and balanced lists to handle Mech armies AND Necrons.

Lol on the scarab bases. Considering in a 7 turn game he could make 42, that means 51 maximum--pretty insane, but I think 30-40 is a more realisitic max.

I know in my similiar list with 7 spyders I got up to ~45 in one game.

--Edit: instead of Ogryn, I have been telling our local IG player to strongly consider Straken and powerfists on his vets. These are good buys even without considering scarabs, but with scarabs around Straken and just 1 pfist vet squad can account for 5 dead bases without breaking a sweat, not including shooting. Add in the 30ish s4 attacks hitting on 3's and you take a lot of the bite of scarabs away pretty quick.

Draigo wrote:You still think after all 3 GT were won by 3 different cron lists that they're still underdogs? 3 for 3 doesn't say underdog to me. lol

I think Norbu's is an underdog list. Following the Tremorcrons discussion thread, I'm like, "well, yeah, but at the end of the day we need combat power."

Then reading his battle reports I'm like, "whoa! it actually can work?? cool!"

Nice report. I am glad to see that you did so well with Necrons. I am looking forward to playing with the new Codex, I have not had much of a chance to yet.

Hulksmash wrote:@hyv3mynd

Yeah, his 5th round opponent has a tendency to do that. He did it to me at the Bugeater. I don't think it's malicious (though part of it is to throw his opponent off and maybe stop the hot rolls) but he tends to get a bit flustered when statistics go by the wayside early.

Was thinking who would do that till I read Hulks comment. Ah the memories of Bugeater!

Grats on the win with a differnet list. It would have been cool to see it matched up vs Hulk's foot GKs. Looks like this list is popping up all over too. Someone was playing a variation at CotN.