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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 18:54:28
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Infiltrating Prowler
wocka flocka rocka shocka
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LoneLictor wrote:I had a friend who said the third Matrix film was the best one. I killed him with a gardening shovel.
honestly, I think people realised that if the sequels were bad,m why bother. you know there's still fans out there, online, discussing things about the movies.
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captain fantastic wrote: Seems like this thread is all that's left of Remilia Scarlet (the poster).
wait, what? Σ(・□・;) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 18:56:01
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Yeah what ruined it for me was Neo doing his thing in the real world, and turning into a monk.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah.  One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.
Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.
Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.
Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.
ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 19:35:20
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Battlefield Tourist
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Once you have a character who is essentially "invulernable" in your movie; you have a serious problem. Your hero can only be threatened by bad things happening to the people he cares about. Then, watching how that impacts the "invulnerable" hero.
Matrix 2 and 3 were less interesting to me because, we know Neo is unstoppable in the Matrix, since anytime we see him acting the the Matrix; there is 0 tension.
I personally liked the Merovingian as a foil. I have no idea how sentient AI's outside of the Matrixes programming could come about, but he was cool. I think I would have liked him better if he was another human, who realized how to manipulate the matrix, and simply used it to his advantage in a less "heroic" way.
That would have given us a look into the "not-Neo" version of the chosen one. Neo would have been given more depth, because he choose to use his powers to fight the status quo, instead of simply prospering within it. Instead, we get rogue AIs, which is less compelling.
So, I think the world of The Matrix still has a lot of stories to tell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 20:11:29
Subject: Re:Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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I like all of them, but not equally. I felt like they were the new Star Wars as a modern, epic sci-fi trilogy. I just think people are more cynical these days. Back in the Star Wars days if you wanted to see Star Wars again you had to go to the theatre again...and again. These repeat viewers became a community of super-fans.
Nowadays, even if people really like something they'll just download it and talk about it on the internet. However, even when something is great like 20-40% of the comments on the interent will be negative anyway because......it's the internet.
Star Wars like super fandom will never be acheived again (not even with Star Wars as the new trilogy shows), I think it's a relic from it's time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 21:48:36
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Frazzled wrote:I was more ok with the 3rd movie, and by that I mean the battle for Zion. I could give a ^*%)( about Neo or the Matrix or whatever at that point. I just wanted to see sentient robots vs. mecha in Gunfight at the Center of the Earth. Hell yes. That whole scene nearly makes you forget about the crap that came before it. I mean, they were swimming in fething bullet casings!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 22:12:20
Subject: Re:Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Otiose in a Niche
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Grakmar wrote:The first Matrix movie was incredible from the moment it started until the ending credits rolled. The second and third films were pretty disappointing. But, they did do a great job of filling in the gaps left in the first film.
Specifically, that moment in Reloaded when Neo uses his powers in the "real" world and you suddenly realize he's still in the Matrix. I remember seeing that and being blown away. All the pieces suddenly fall into place.
And, it raises all sorts of other interesting questions: Are the other members of the resistance people or computer programs? Is the Matrix effectively multi-player, or does each individual have his own Matrix and is only interacting with programs? Is Neo the last remaining human, or are there others? Is Neo, himself, actually human, or is he just a computer program? Is Smith actually a rogue program, or is he just another part of the illusion the machines have built?
??? I don't remember ever learning that Zion was a second Matrix, am I missing something?
I know it was a common fan theory up until we all gave up caring.
My prefered ending would have a been a 10 minute sequence of Neo waking up in different worlds, realizing quickly each was an illusion until he found himself back in his cubicle as Mr Anderson oppressed office drone.
And shrugging and realzing at some point you have to stop looking for truth and accept the world you have. Automatically Appended Next Post: KingCracker wrote:Frazzled wrote:I was more ok with the 3rd movie, and by that I mean the battle for Zion. I could give a ^*%)( about Neo or the Matrix or whatever at that point. I just wanted to see sentient robots vs. mecha in Gunfight at the Center of the Earth.
Hell yes. That whole scene nearly makes you forget about the crap that came before it. I mean, they were swimming in fething bullet casings!
And then you wonder why no one armored the cockpits...
Or why the machines don't have guns...
And then you cry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 22:21:25
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Solahma
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Eh, how long do you have to look into a mirror facing a mirror before getting bored by the idea of infinity?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 22:30:40
Subject: Re:Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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@Kyoto That would effectively be the "It was all a dream" ending which I really would not have liked.
I prefer my ending were Neo becomes part machine and ushers in a new species of super-machine-men which would end the war because they are one people now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 13:27:39
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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kronk wrote:I liked the Matrix series a lot until the last 2 minutes of the 2nd movie when Neo did "magic" in the real world.
Then, it got stupid.
Oh, well.
Actually, at the end of the second film, IMO it couldn't be clearer that they were still in the Matrix. That explains Neo taking out the robots, much of the mumbo-jumbo from the Architect about the illusion of free will, the stuff about multiple Zions, etc.
But then in the third film, nope, Neo is a computer Jesus with real-world superpowers. For no explainable reason. Umm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 13:46:18
Subject: Re:Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dark City was a far superior film. It broke all those rules before the matrix. The Matrix wasn't bad, but the sequels were woeful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 17:37:02
Subject: Re:Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dark City really is an awesome flick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 17:45:46
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Bane Knight
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The idea to have architecture from lots of different eras was genius; love original films like Dark City.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 18:07:33
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Inception was the unofficial fourth Matrix
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 20:14:41
Subject: Re:Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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+1 on the Dark City is good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 20:28:29
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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1st was damn fine movie.
2nd had it's moments and was ok
3rd had the badass huge fight in zion which was awesome. That fight alone made that movie alright to me.
I haven't looked into it as much as others and that might be why I still like it.
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Azarath Metrion Zinthos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 20:35:36
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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VikingScott wrote:1st was damn fine movie.
2nd had it's moments and was ok
3rd had the badass huge fight in the matrix which was awesome. That fight alone made that movie alright to me.
I haven't looked into it as much as others and that might be why I still like it.
Fixed that for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 21:38:23
Subject: Whatever happened to the Matrix?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Samus_aran115 wrote:Inception was the unofficial fourth Matrix 
Yes I think they were similar in that they did something fresh, or at least a fresh spin on an idea.
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