Forge World Chaos Decimator Daemon Engine

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**oni**

I love it. The rules are a bit over-the-top, but I like them too. This kit alone would have me start a Chaos Space Marines army.

**Scottywan82**

Looking at it some more, I kind of want to cry that this isn't a plastic GW kit.

If Chaos got plastic kits like this, man-oh-man, I would start a new CSM army in a heartbeat.

**whigwam**

What's the Decimator's AV look like?

**Medium of Death** · whigwam wrote:What's the Decimator's AV look like? 12/11/11

whigwam wrote:What's the Decimator's AV look like?

12/11/11

**Kirasu**

Uh.. 12 / 11 /11 for armor values? Whats up with that considering how big it is. What dreadnought has a side armor value of 11?

Guess only marines get AV 13!

**reds8n** · 12/11/11 Ws and BS 3, S 8 , I 3 and A 4.

12/11/11

Ws and BS 3, S 8 , I 3 and A 4.

**kronk**

whigwam wrote:What's the Decimator's AV look like?

The experimental rules are in my post.

**whigwam**

Damn, hoping for AV13. But this still looks great, thanks guys!

kronk wrote:The experimental rules are in my post.

Thanks, but I couldn't click through. Work-blocked!

**Kirasu**

Not sure what's overpowering about these rules. I guess if you compare them to the chaos dreadnought they're amazing but comparing them to imperial dreadnoughts it's really awful.

Close combat weapons but low AV and no fleet.. Semi-decent weapons but BS3. Sure it ignores stun/shaken but it has no real dangerous anti-tank or weapons that will reliably hit

Cool idea and GREAT model but a bit amazed at the rules.. Hopefully the official rules will be better than a standard dreadnought

**Ignatius-Grulgor**

Yeah I am definitely seeing me grabbing one with a couple of butcher cannons for my deathguard it's a thing of beauty.

**Obsidian Raven**

Well, time for me to start saving up for a new forgeworld order!

**Just Dave**

That thing looks great.
I don't entirely agree with the Jack comment, I think it fits very well with Chaos and 40K in general and is a great looking model.
I haven't read the rules properly yet to make a reliable judgement of whether they're balanced, but it looks like it might be a bit overcosted.

**Joshh**

This thing just screams "IRON WARRIORS" to me. Although it could realistically fit in almost any Chaos army with the right loadout.

So great, I might have to get it. Even though I don't own any Chaos.

**Just Dave**

Hmmm... After giving the rules a better look, I really like them. The claws and rules in general seem really nice, however I'd say it's over-costed/too fragile.

I think it's hitting power and special rules are very suitable (the hitting power is at least), but 155pts is too much considering it's size and fragility IMHO.

Give it 12/12/11 and it'd be more reasonably priced, give it 13/12/11 and it still may be fairly priced for its abilities, if not slightly undercosted.

**Gargantuan**

I'm considering buying one with two butcher cannons, 8 str 8 shots is pretty damn brutal and with a MoN it will be shooting until it dies.

**kronk**

I think I'd rather put a pair of storm lasers on it.

6 to 10 AP3 shots that wound marines on 2's and deny power armor saves doesn't suck.

However, 8 S8 shots, even at BS3, will wreck some rhinos.

**Just Dave**

Gargantuan wrote:I'm considering buying one with two butcher cannons, 8 str 8 shots is pretty damn brutal and with a MoN it will be shooting until it dies.

Well, only 4 will probably hit, meaning that it's effectively Psyfleman damage output. But for ~60pts more, so although the butcher cannons look cool, I'm not convinced on its usefulness. As for durability, I'd say it's pretty similar to an existing Dread. Lower armour & bigger size, but can resist some level of damage.

**Balance**

I kind of like the Chaos walker thing. It looks a lot like the Chaos BFG ships, with the heavy use of exterior framing on angled pieces. It's a nice break from the smooth framed with rivets look of the Imperium stuff. (Although both sides use both styles occasionally).

**Obsidian Raven**

Balance wrote:I kind of like the Chaos walker thing. It looks a lot like the Chaos BFG ships, with the heavy use of exterior framing on angled pieces. It's a nice break from the smooth framed with rivets look of the Imperium stuff. (Although both sides use both styles occasionally).

I agree that its a nice break. Although the armour plates remind me very much of the defiler, which I don't like so much.

Still, its cool enough for me to wanna get one.

**SlaveToDorkness**

I think its a great middle ground between the Scorpion and regular Dread. Only biggger!

The Legion of Brass WILL have 3 of these!

**kenshin620**

Looks like a mini warhound

Why does chaos tend to have low armor for size walkers anyways? The defiler is the same, its like twice as large as a dread but only 12 front armor

Rules are...decent I suppose. Typical FW wonky rules

**aka_mythos**

I think its looks pretty cool. Its exactly the sort of twisted looks all chaos vehicles should have. The rules are pretty disappointing. This thing is as much taller than a Contemptor as a Contemptor is to a standard dreadnought. It looks about 4" tall... almost physically 2 standard dreadnoughts and yet its only a bit better than what you'd expect of a single standard dreadnought.

One thing no one's mentioned... It has "dedication" rules... and if the Chaos Codex is coming up as soon as rumored, these rules may reflect how the Chaos codex deals with dedication to the big-4.

**Raxor**

Pretty lazy of them to make all the marks the same cost.

**kronk**

I think you meant to say pretty awesome of them to make all of the marks the same cost!

**Trevak Dal**

Eh. Atleast it's not a pile of crap loosely connected with the god it's aligned to with a gun of some sort ontop of a baneblade's bottom like other FW kits for Chaos. That one for Khorne is dumb as hell. A pillar of skulls and a cannon...on top of a baneblade's treads. Wooooooo. I'd laugh if I didn't know what the Loyalists got.

**Agamemnon2**

Trevak Dal wrote:Eh. Atleast it's not a pile of crap loosely connected with the god it's aligned to with a gun of some sort ontop of a baneblade's bottom like other FW kits for Chaos. That one for Khorne is dumb as hell. A pillar of skulls and a cannon...on top of a baneblade's treads. Wooooooo. I'd laugh if I didn't know what the Loyalists got.

Uh, the one you're referring to, the Pillar of Skulls, is not a FW kit. Get your facts straight, laddie.

**Ouze**

I have really mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I like the rules despite the low AV. On the other hand, I'm not too crazy about the model. It does look very, very Warmachine-y. Which isn't neccesarily bad, per se, but if I liked that aesthetic, I'd be playing 40k instead. On the other-other hand, those big flat plates looks great for my Iron Warriors, but I don't like the legs that much.... so almost awesome. But not bad, and I think with some minor conversions it could be full awesome.

The price is a little high but in line with the Mega and Meka dreads.

**Captain Vyper**

Wow very cool guess I know what I am getting soon. Some how when I see this model all I hear is....

"My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next!"

Fitting don't you think. So getting one of these!

**timd**

Rules and weapons wise its pretty much a Contemptor dread, but just really big.

It also resembles an Imperial Knight Titan, but at 4", is much too small. Scale it up to 6"+ and you have a Knight.

Style wise, I guess FW wants us to buy Warmachine jacks for use in 40K...

**Brother SRM**

It's like a midget knight titan from hell. I love it. Also, "butcher cannon" is such an awesome name for a weapon.