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timd wrote:Style wise, I guess FW wants us to buy Warmachine jacks for use in 40K...

Someone needs to take a Nightmare warjack into a GW store and try to pass it off as the Forgeworld Decimator.

biccat wrote:

timd wrote:Style wise, I guess FW wants us to buy Warmachine jacks for use in 40K...

Someone needs to take a Nightmare warjack into a GW store and try to pass it off as the Forgeworld Decimator.

I think the tooth pick legs would be a dead give away.

Kind of an awesome big model, man this thing looks so sweet! I'd buy it with 2 of every weapon option. The claws just look wicked to me, and the Butch Cannon and Storm Laser are just so awesome in play. Style wise, I like. Did anyone see a hint of the ABC robot from Judge Dredd? Just a smallish bit?!

Towering over even the mighty Contemptor Pattern Dreadnoughts of the Adeptus Astartes, the Decimator is believed to be an attempt to bolster the ranks of such ancient devices that still serve the Traitor Legions.

So it looks like we will still be seeing the Chaos Contemptor at some point.

Damn, I really wish that I had a CSM army so I had a good reason for buying this. It looks awesome, but the rules are a bit mediocre, but that is what I expect from FW. They don't want to make powerful units, they want to make beautiful and fluffy miniatures.
When Chaos at some point gets a proper GW release, I'm going to be so poor because of all the FW models that come with it.


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Rabidweasel wrote:Those rules are pretty overpowered! It ignores stunned and shaken results due to DP and if they destroy it, there's a chance it gets back up again! Plus the 5+ Inv save on top and the extra flamer hits on transports and buildings!

Not sure the guys at my local gaming club would like facing facing this but i'm very tempted to get one to march alongside my sonic dreadnought!

What are you talking about? The 5+ save is only on weapon destroyed and immobilized results, not on wrecked and exploded results, and due to the huge size and less than impressive AV it is going to go down rather quickly. Remember that is also only has WS, BS and I 3 due to being posessed. I could imagine fielding this in a list with a lot of other AV threats, but I would probably field this anyway due to the model being so awesome.

timd wrote:

It also resembles an Imperial Knight Titan, but at 4", is much too small. Scale it up to 6"+ and you have a Knight.

Uh oh...

Anyway, I agree that the rules for it should have "more oomph" for something that size.

That's it.
C:CSM is totally going to be my next army after orks and necrons.

Now what to stick on it...I'm tempted to keep the decimator claw. The anti-transport thing sounds really interesting.
Maybe the storm laser for anti-infantry and anti light vehicle duty.

Nice Mini; my only fear is that they will eventually come up with even cooler god specific models. Guess I'll just convert this one appropriately until that happens.

Alpharius wrote:
Uh oh...

Anyway, I agree that the rules for it should have "more oomph" for something that size.

I really hope there will be some kind of new dreadnought variant in the upcoming CsM codex, that can be proxied with the decimator.

Darkseid wrote:Nice Mini; my only fear is that they will eventually come up with even cooler god specific models. Guess I'll just convert this one appropriately until that happens.

Alpharius wrote:
Uh oh...

Anyway, I agree that the rules for it should have "more oomph" for something that size.

I really hope there will be some kind of new dreadnought variant in the upcoming CsM codex, that can be proxied with the decimator.

Or even better, the decimator will be in the new C:CSM


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Bonde wrote:Damn, I really wish that I had a CSM army so I had a good reason for buying this. It looks awesome, but the rules are a bit mediocre, but that is what I expect from FW. They don't want to make powerful units, they want to make beautiful and fluffy miniatures.
When Chaos at some point gets a proper GW release, I'm going to be so poor because of all the FW models that come with it.


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Rabidweasel wrote:Those rules are pretty overpowered! It ignores stunned and shaken results due to DP and if they destroy it, there's a chance it gets back up again! Plus the 5+ Inv save on top and the extra flamer hits on transports and buildings!

Not sure the guys at my local gaming club would like facing facing this but i'm very tempted to get one to march alongside my sonic dreadnought!

What are you talking about? The 5+ save is only on weapon destroyed and immobilized results, not on wrecked and exploded results, and due to the huge size and less than impressive AV it is going to go down rather quickly. Remember that is also only has WS, BS and I 3 due to being posessed. I could imagine fielding this in a list with a lot of other AV threats, but I would probably field this anyway due to the model being so awesome.

Yep, and you only have 1 chance with the 5+ save. If its failed it stays failed.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yep, and you only have 1 chance with the 5+ save. If its failed it stays failed.

Well, unless you take MoN. Seems like the best choice IMO.

Edit: Also, Unholy* Vigor does mean that it can possibly recover from Wrecked results.

whigwam wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yep, and you only have 1 chance with the 5+ save. If its failed it stays failed.

Well, unless you take MoN. Seems like the best choice IMO.

That only allows for rerolls though. If you fail it the second time, then it stays failed. So 2 chances before failure

Breotan wrote:Oh, look. Forge World is making Jacks for Warmachine now.

It looks nearly identical to a Warlord titan.

I like the rules for it not sure why some think they are weak. It would do real well against infantry with the lasers or real well against tans with the cannon. As for its look, I think it resembles a Khador jack more than a dreadnought. If I played Chaos I would definately want to get a few of them though.

Lovely model, from what Aura was just saying when she saw it, if she ends up with Chaos this year from the starter box, she plans on using them as her Dreadnoughts.

Meh, I don't like it. It's not bad in any way, just kinda bland. I'd rather have a Chaos Contemptor. Or build one myself.

Huh. $80 USD isn't the worst price ever for this. If I have the money it would be nice to eventually get one of these for my Emperor's children or Iron Warriors.


Points wise it's prety over coasted, but I like the niche it fits. Ever since 5th ed I've been stuck in the "9 oblit rut". Now that I have elite slot dedicated Anti-Tank/MEQ, I can free up heavy slots for some of the other options.
=D

Anything that gives my chaos decent options I'm all for at this point.

Holy Jesus. Take all of my money FW!

Don't like its stat line in the least. 3 BS, WS and Initiative is pretty meh. Not to mention only 12 front and 11 everywhere else. Given it's description, I would've guessed 13 12 11 or something. Besides that, what exactly does it do? It's a bloated dreadnought that still only moves 6" with 3 BS. The claws are gimicky.

I'll just use it as a chaos dreadnought.

Alpharius wrote:

timd wrote:

It also resembles an Imperial Knight Titan, but at 4", is much too small. Scale it up to 6"+ and you have a Knight.

Uh oh...

Anyway, I agree that the rules for it should have "more oomph" for something that size.

+1 Agree on "more oomph".
Perhaps the marks should just have been Khorne +1A, Nurgle +1 AV on side armour, Slaneesh +1I and assault grenades and Tzeentch +1 BS. That would have been a lot simpler, but perhaps the current experimental marks fit with a possible new theme of marked vehicles in the upcoming Chaos Legions Codex.

Very interessting that the Butchercannon looks like the Reapercannon. A sign of things to come?

I really like it. WIll have to get one sometime.

Darkseid wrote:Very interessting that the Butchercannon looks like the Reapercannon. A sign of things to come?

Well, considering how butcher cannons seem to be popping up everywhere, I wouldn't be surprised if they removed the reaper and replace it with the butcher.

That looks awesome! Much better than the Contemptor and Chaos Dreads.

Bonde wrote:

Alpharius wrote:

timd wrote:

It also resembles an Imperial Knight Titan, but at 4", is much too small. Scale it up to 6"+ and you have a Knight.

Uh oh...

Anyway, I agree that the rules for it should have "more oomph" for something that size.

+1 Agree on "more oomph".
Perhaps the marks should just have been Khorne +1A, Nurgle +1 AV on side armour, Slaneesh +1I and assault grenades and Tzeentch +1 BS. That would have been a lot simpler, but perhaps the current experimental marks fit with a possible new theme of marked vehicles in the upcoming Chaos Legions Codex.

I wish slaanesh would stop being confused about if he wanted shooty or assault guys. I.E: Noise Mariens. The M.o.S on the decimate giving Defensive grenades is nice if you are running it shooty with your noise mariens. (Helps it tie up combats, and block charges), but other wise not realy worth it's 15 points.

Would rather see something that compliments the noise marines more in all honesty. Like gives it a doom siren attack and/or access to some heavy duty sonic weapons.
=/

GW.
All of my money.

Base model for a Dreadknight anyone?

Seems the right size...

Hmmm, I haven't bought any models of any sort since october 2010.

On a related note, I now have an answer for when my parents ask me if I have anything I want for my 18th birthday.

Lockark: Meh, apparently they decided that Slaanesh wouldn't be good for anything other than ridiculous psyker powers some time ago.

The model definitely looks very WM inspired. But WM looks titan inspired so meh...

The rules are needlessly bloated. Get rid of the stupid necronesque rule, raise the AV a point on front and side. Drop the super special save and just let it benefit from Daemonic Possession. I would roll special saves, fleet, etc. Into the marks.

This guy will be vastly more useful than the overpriced Contemptor.

This guy is awesome, and better value than the contemptor

A better value how?

And to me, it is a rather ridiculous looking thing - way oversized for what it can do, at least for now.

Contemptors all the way for me!

Plus, they at least have the added benefit as functioning as "counts as" Dreadnoughts in 'regular' games of 40K.