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bombboy1252 wrote:Metroid other M

Fallout New Vegas

Skyrim

FFX-2

Red Faction Guerrilla

Halo: Reach

Call of duty: Anything after WaW

Dawn of War: Soulstorm (I know it's more of an expansionm but it was a stand alone game)

Almost every Mario game past 1995

Almost every Sonic game

I could probably name more but I'm in the middle of watching a movie...Moral of the story is.......Sequels can easily ruin a franchise. But their are good sequals like

Left 4 dead 2

Half life 2

Team fortress 2

Dawn of war 2

Portal 2

Splinter cell: Chaos Theory

Elder scrolls 4: Oblivion

Halo: 2 and 3

You sir, made me laugh out load! I do agree with most of your list.

S.

Oh, Splinter Cell: Double Agent. Did not like that one, especially after how awesome Chaos Theory was.

Good Sequals:

Halo Reach (Only good halo game after CE, imo).

Jak 2/3
Rachet and Clank 2/3

Personally, usually the second game in a series is the best; they have corrected most problems, added some stuff in, and continued the story. Jak II for instance tightens the platforming, adds guns, and gives you Dark Eco. In Jak 3, they've added vehicles, Light Eco, triple the gun count..... Far too much, honestly.


So that would be my answer; it's incredibly annoying when they add far far too many things.

biccat wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Final Fantasy any number over 1 6

6 really was the highlight of the series. 7 was decent, but not as good, and the series took a significant downturn after that.

I said over 1 because you cant have more than 1 'final' of anything

Plus I hate the whole series anyway

Any C&C past Tiberium Sun.
Any Halo past 3.
Any COD past WaW.
Any MoH past European Assault.
Unreal Championship 2: the Liandri Conflict,
Any DoW past DC.
Fallout: NV.
Just Cause 2.
Saints Row 3 (Why remove multiplayer?! I miss protect the pimp.)
Any GTA past Vice City.
Any Need for Speed past Most Wanted.

Will add more when I remember.

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

biccat wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Final Fantasy any number over 1 6

6 really was the highlight of the series. 7 was decent, but not as good, and the series took a significant downturn after that.

I said over 1 because you cant have more than 1 'final' of anything

Plus I hate the whole series anyway

Wait, in your opinion, you hate the whole series. Therefore the entire series is bad? Sounds logical to me...

We should probably avoid bringing the Final Fantasy crowd in here unless it's to specifically talk about the only four sequels the series has ever done (X-2, XIII-2, Tactics Advance 2, and Dirge of Cerberus, which is really more of a spin-off). Technically every other game is completely independent of each other, minus the Final Fantasy VII prequels (Before Crisis and Crisis Core).

And I don't know, I greatly preferred Ratchet & Clank 2 and 3 over the original. I mean, the original was fun, but 2 and 3 really fixed some things that annoyed me about 1, like the gravity boots instead of the magnetic boots, the fact that it was really hard to get any sort of money in the first one, and having an RPG system for increasing the power of guns (and health, since fighting the last boss of 1 was freaking hard with only 4 life)

DeadlySquirrel wrote:Any C&C past Tiberium Sun.
Any Halo past 3.
Any COD past WaW.
Any MoH past European Assault.
Unreal Championship 2: the Liandri Conflict,
Any DoW past DC.
Fallout: NV.
Just Cause 2.
Saints Row 3 (Why remove multiplayer?! I miss protect the pimp.)
Any GTA past Vice City.
Any Need for Speed past Most Wanted.

Will add more when I remember.

Ha, I disagree with a few of these lol

I didnt like Tiberium Sun but I loved Red Alert 2
I also thought any MoH after Spearhead.
I dont have an opinion on most of those.

Me personally *expects to catch flak* I HATED KotOR 2. I actually consider it the worst game I have ever played that wasnt an RTS

For me, its the fact that many sequels in games or otherwise follow after a game/movie that had a concise "its all over" ending. another thing that bugs me is when a direct sequel, with the same cast, starts you off back in "I'm a Wimpy Noob Land" With none of the awesome Powers/Gear/Stats you ended the previous game with. on the flip side, i find it distasteful for a sequel that does not reset you to include an incredibly powerful item that you heard nothing about in the previous game, but everyone knows about that would have made the previous games boss cry like a scared baby.

Oh God! I forgot RA2 came after TS.

Will edit it.
OT:
Neverwinternights 2.
Manhunt 2.
All the Prince of Persia sequels.
GoW 3.
Most of the Ghost Recons.
Any SW:Battlefront after 2.

DeadlySquirrel wrote:Oh God! I forgot RA2 came after TS.

Will edit it.
OT:
Neverwinternights 2.
Manhunt 2.
All the Prince of Persia sequels.
GoW 3.
Most of the Ghost Recons.
Any SW:Battlefront after 2.

I think there were only 2 SW:BF

And is this a list of good games or bad games?


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X-Com Terror From the Deep

They really fethed up the research system, to the point that its game breaking

Sequels that annoyed me and shouldn't of existed.

DeadlySquirrel wrote:Sequels that annoyed me and shouldn't of existed.

There are no SW:Battlefront games after number 2, pandemic studios was dissolved during production of a third game.

also, I will agree with people saying that Ratchet and Clank 2/3 improved greatly on the first. Ratchet and Clank 3 remains my favourite game of all time to this day, and I am personally very very very very very very very very very very... (ad infinitum) happy that theres going to be an HD collection of the first three games.

Not to say that the recent games aren't also brilliant (Crack in Time is my 2nd favourite PS3 game after Mass Effect 2 (which coincidentally is also a sequel)), but that number 3 came out at the point in time when I started to play PS2 games more and more, and had more of an effect on me.

on a related not, what are people's opinions of Ratchet: Deadlocked? I enjoyed the change of pace from the normal games, and the infinite upgrades available on weapons (I think they were infinite, I seem to recall getting my shotgun equivalent up to level 97), but thought that some of the story didn't seem to fit in well with the other games

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:For me, its the fact that many sequels in games or otherwise follow after a game/movie that had a concise "its all over" ending.

That and the prequels.

S.


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DeadlySquirrel wrote:Oh God! I forgot RA2 came after TS.

Will edit it.
OT:
Neverwinternights 2.
Manhunt 2.
All the Prince of Persia sequels.
GoW 3.
Most of the Ghost Recons.
Any SW:Battlefront after 2.

I did like NWN 2 ^^ not as much as the first one but certainly liked it.
Also like several Prince of Persia sequels

S.

Goliath wrote:

DeadlySquirrel wrote:Sequels that annoyed me and shouldn't of existed.

There are no SW:Battlefront games after number 2, pandemic studios was dissolved during production of a third game.

also, I will agree with people saying that Ratchet and Clank 2/3 improved greatly on the first. Ratchet and Clank 3 remains my favourite game of all time to this day, and I am personally very very very very very very very very very very... (ad infinitum) happy that theres going to be an HD collection of the first three games.

Not to say that the recent games aren't also brilliant (Crack in Time is my 2nd favourite PS3 game after Mass Effect 2 (which coincidentally is also a sequel)), but that number 3 came out at the point in time when I started to play PS2 games more and more, and had more of an effect on me.

on a related not, what are people's opinions of Ratchet: Deadlocked? I enjoyed the change of pace from the normal games, and the infinite upgrades available on weapons (I think they were infinite, I seem to recall getting my shotgun equivalent up to level 97), but thought that some of the story didn't seem to fit in well with the other games

Spoiler:

The bad guys managing to Board the phoenix so easily for example, I mean, Ratchet has just destroyed numerous gigantic robots, am I supposed to believe that a small team of enemies can make it onto the ship and capture him without him putting up a fight?

Are the new ones really that good? I stopped after dead locked because it sucked so much. I do agree that 2 and 3 were the best.

Great White wrote:

Goliath wrote:

DeadlySquirrel wrote:Sequels that annoyed me and shouldn't of existed.

There are no SW:Battlefront games after number 2, pandemic studios was dissolved during production of a third game.

also, I will agree with people saying that Ratchet and Clank 2/3 improved greatly on the first. Ratchet and Clank 3 remains my favourite game of all time to this day, and I am personally very very very very very very very very very very... (ad infinitum) happy that theres going to be an HD collection of the first three games.

Not to say that the recent games aren't also brilliant (Crack in Time is my 2nd favourite PS3 game after Mass Effect 2 (which coincidentally is also a sequel)), but that number 3 came out at the point in time when I started to play PS2 games more and more, and had more of an effect on me.

on a related not, what are people's opinions of Ratchet: Deadlocked? I enjoyed the change of pace from the normal games, and the infinite upgrades available on weapons (I think they were infinite, I seem to recall getting my shotgun equivalent up to level 97), but thought that some of the story didn't seem to fit in well with the other games

Spoiler:

The bad guys managing to Board the phoenix so easily for example, I mean, Ratchet has just destroyed numerous gigantic robots, am I supposed to believe that a small team of enemies can make it onto the ship and capture him without him putting up a fight?

Are the new ones really that good? I stopped after dead locked because it sucked so much. I do agree that 2 and 3 were the best.

They are, they went back to the original platforming/fighting style of 2/3 rather than the third person shooter challenges of deadlocked.

Goliath wrote:

There are no SW:Battlefront games after number 2, pandemic studios was dissolved during production of a third game

There was renegade squadron on the PSP, which could be what was meant...

just going off recent memory, Uncharted 3.

I mean, it was always going to be tough topping Uncharted 2, which is up there with some of the best games ever. Uncharted 2 was a perfect sequel, it improved the combat, the level design, the story, the environment variety, developed the characters while adding more.

Contrast to Uncharted 3, which actually had level design drop below what was in the first game, have enemies return to what made them annoying in the first game (bullet sponges), ruined the combat by making the aiming less responsive, had a story that just felt rushed and uninspired, and didn't develop one of the main characters who basically became a cameo.

None of that made it a terrible game - it was still pretty good. But after the mountain peak of awesome that its predecessor was, it was really annoying.

I thought Uncharted 3 was really good and did some things good like the h2h combat.

I would say the most annoying sequel for me would be Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2..... Oh yeah i said it, and I dont play fps anymore so dont judge me.

DMC

Because it makes Dante look like a punk *que nerd rage!*

Sharazad wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:Metroid other M

Fallout New Vegas

Skyrim

FFX-2

Red Faction Guerrilla

Halo: Reach

Call of duty: Anything after WaW

Dawn of War: Soulstorm (I know it's more of an expansionm but it was a stand alone game)

Almost every Mario game past 1995

Almost every Sonic game

I could probably name more but I'm in the middle of watching a movie...Moral of the story is.......Sequels can easily ruin a franchise. But their are good sequals like

Left 4 dead 2

Half life 2

Team fortress 2

Dawn of war 2

Portal 2

Splinter cell: Chaos Theory

Elder scrolls 4: Oblivion

Halo: 2 and 3

You sir, made me laugh out load! I do agree with most of your list.

S.

I loved world at war why did people hate it? Dont say tanks because they were death traps!.

Generally speaking the Treyarch games are less popular with people because there's this company called Infinity Ward that for a time made better games. So, WaW lost points because they were the intermission between CoD4 and MW2.

CoD Black Ops because the online multiplayer was rubbish.
ODST was a bit of fail too
Age of Empires 3 (hard to be the previous though)
Pokemon of the last 5 or so years

Other than that I like most of the other sequels I play, pretty shocked at some peoples opinions though, makes me worry a little about the gaming community to be honest.

Best Sequels:
Fallout 3 and NV
Ratchet Deadlocked and Ratchet and Clank up your arsenal
Halo Reach
Battlefield 3
Team Fortress 2
Half-Life 2
Portal 2
Warcraft III
Diablo II
Skyrim
Worst Sequels:
Starcraft II
CoD: BO
DoW 2
Age of Empires 2
And I heard Deus Ex: Human Revolution is terrible.

DEHR is actually a lot like Mass Effect 3 in one respect: Great game overall but a lot of people HATE the ending.

Other people didn't like that it has little in common with its predecessor, but at the end of the day I think we can agree Invisible War was a worse sequel

bombboy1252 wrote:Almost every Mario game past 1995

This shows me that you haven't played Super Mario Galaxy.

LordofHats wrote:DEHR is actually a lot like Mass Effect 3 in one respect: Great game overall but a lot of people HATE the ending.
Other people didn't like that it has little in common with its predecessor, but at the end of the day I think we can agree Invisible War was a worse sequel

Lolwut? I found the ending to be great.

A lot of people complained about the way the ending was structured (Press a button). I think the boss fights received more criticism though.

I thought it was decent (EDIT: The ending that is, though to be honest I never really got that into the game, I was annoyed all my attempts at stealth ended in failure).

LordofHats wrote:A lot of people complained about the way the ending was structured (Press a button). I think the boss fights received more criticism though.

I thought it was decent (EDIT: The ending that is, though to be honest I never really got that into the game, I was annoyed all my attempts at stealth ended in failure).

Oh yeah, the boss fights were dumb. Whats the point of multiple play styles, if they shoehorn you into relying on a specific style to kill the boss?

I didn't mind the press a button ending. I actually took a while in deciding which one to press.

The Force Unleashed 2...

You start the game and it is fun as hell, then 3 hours in...you beat it.... Are you kidding me?