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kb305 wrote:

Milisim wrote:Actually most of his reviews of games are 100% accurate...

wether you enjoy the game or not... at the end of the day...... nearly all video games are lacking in ideas, are much to linear or have terrible background stories etc...

Even major award winning titles are pretty lame.

It simply shows the state of video games in general. They are throw away products.. They design them to be this way.

I havent played a fantastic video game in years... Ive played good ones.... but not fantastic...

very true most video games are total crap these days.

the last good one i played was dragon age origins on PC. still waiting for something good.. diablo 3 will be the next thing actually worth playing.

skyrim was a boring piece of junk. no depth- like an all you can eat buffet except the food is bland and boring. maybe if i was 14 i might enjoy it.

Ah, try out Crusader Kings. If you like Game of Thrones and Excel ( Paradox actualy got better in that regard ) then you will finaly once again have the pleasure of playing a good game

Ah Yahtzee. A guy who appears to have built a career in journalism by copying Charlie Brooker. I wouldn't get to wound up by him.

It's Yahtzee, take everything he says with a pinch of salt. He's a comedian and a very funny one at that. He's trying to make people laugh. It's just that week 40k-ers were his target, the week after he'll migrate onto another hate figure.

JeneralJoe117 wrote:It's Yahtzee, take everything he says with a pinch of salt. He's a comedian and a very funny one at that. He's trying to make people laugh. It's just that week 40k-ers were his target, the week after he'll migrate onto another hate figure.

Actually, Yahtzee has a very real dislike of 40k, since he's mocked it quite a few times over his videos/articles. However, it's still ridiculous getting in a tissy over him not liking it, especially considering that 40k really isn't a setting for everyone. It's no different than when some of us mock Twilight or My Little Pony (inb4 someone says "but those are actually bad").

Holy god, Yahtzee dresses like a complete donkey-cave.

Who pays attention to someone who is crying for it so badly?

ZebioLizard2 wrote:I'd like him better if he hated things equally, he hates so much on Nintendo I can't take his actual reviews (non-hateful) seriously.

Really Nintendo?
I honestly can't think of a good game he reviewed that was Nintendo exclusive...

To be fair no game is perfect. Espeacially videogames since some have to sacrifice say graphics for better AI. Most are made on ridiculous time schedules. Though some games like starcraft 2 seemed to be fighting with itself because it seemed Blizzard was hesitant to release a game that might compete with their own product like WoW.

I pay little heed to game reviewers since they can be easily wowed by graphics or michael bay explosions. I can't tell you how many games I have played that had poor collision, terrible map graphics since they just replicated painted textures. You either have to focus on graphics and story or try to make make huge open ended enviroments where npcs tend to give generic statements. There is give and take.

Also thinking of the golden years of games seems funny becuse during the "old" days games didnt even allow open ended stories till games like the original Shin Megami Tensei.

Emerett wrote:Holy god, Yahtzee dresses like a complete donkey-cave.

Who pays attention to someone who is crying for it so badly?

Plenty of people, apparently. At least those with a sense of humor.

purplefood wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:I'd like him better if he hated things equally, he hates so much on Nintendo I can't take his actual reviews (non-hateful) seriously.

Really Nintendo?
I honestly can't think of a good game he reviewed that was Nintendo exclusive...

First off he didn't need to, listen to a few of his vid's where despite the thing going on, he'll bash nintendo to hell and back, mocks their fans over anyone else, mock the games, and mock anyone who plays them. Yet has yet to take as many potshots to the Xbox, the PC, or the Playstation.

The only games he reviews fairly in his hate are sandbox games, or puzzle games, he has a bias against shooters (though to be fair he only hates on Modern Warfare clones to much), nintendo, JRPGS, and various things.

Here is another review of Space Marine:
http://www.gamespot.com/warhammer-40-000-space-marine/reviews/warhammer-40000-space-marine-review-6333272/

It seems to be that this game might following down the same road as Fire Warrrior

Hazard30 wrote:He says in the article "Now, I'm sure Warhammer 40K is a lovely tabletop strategy game. It's not my bag, I was and still am into storytelling play rather than win/lose wargaming, but I'm sure it means a lot to you." That doesn't sound like his is telling how bad the table-top game is. He is a video-game columnist, so he beef isn't with the table-top, its with the video game.

The problem is he takes issue with the fluff without knowing the fluff. 'There can't only be war, people need to stop to go to the lavatory'. He based his entire judgement on the tagline. That's just dumb. Taglines are there to be a cool comment sitting under the name. Obviously there's more than just war. The fluff, particularly Black Library books, go into this. Obviously he doesn't like the universe, so won't invest time into knowing this. But when you criticise something, it's a good idea to have more of an understanding of it. Like 'And I've said before that no authority would seriously pursue a supersoldier project when it's infinitely cheaper and more practical to just put normal people in vehicles or powered armor who could then get out of the vehicle or powered armor and go study to become an accountant or something.' Space Marines can get out of their armour. They can do other things. Look at Salamanders - they're master artisans as well as warriors.

His whole rant just reeks of the burning generic rage he claims Space Marines should show (because the Gears guys did, as if that's some awesome yardstick of writing quality), simply because he hasn't got a clue about what he's trying to criticise.

Yeh to be fair he's not even trying to be funny through a lot of it. He seems to be genuinely bitter that people would rather play 40k than his beloved dungeons and dragons.

-Loki- wrote:

Hazard30 wrote:He says in the article "Now, I'm sure Warhammer 40K is a lovely tabletop strategy game. It's not my bag, I was and still am into storytelling play rather than win/lose wargaming, but I'm sure it means a lot to you." That doesn't sound like his is telling how bad the table-top game is. He is a video-game columnist, so he beef isn't with the table-top, its with the video game.

The problem is he takes issue with the fluff without knowing the fluff. 'There can't only be war, people need to stop to go to the lavatory'. He based his entire judgement on the tagline. That's just dumb. Taglines are there to be a cool comment sitting under the name. Obviously there's more than just war. The fluff, particularly Black Library books, go into this. Obviously he doesn't like the universe, so won't invest time into knowing this. But when you criticise something, it's a good idea to have more of an understanding of it. Like 'And I've said before that no authority would seriously pursue a supersoldier project when it's infinitely cheaper and more practical to just put normal people in vehicles or powered armor who could then get out of the vehicle or powered armor and go study to become an accountant or something.' Space Marines can get out of their armour. They can do other things. Look at Salamanders - they're master artisans as well as warriors.

His whole rant just reeks of the burning generic rage he claims Space Marines should show (because the Gears guys did, as if that's some awesome yardstick of writing quality), simply because he hasn't got a clue about what he's trying to criticise.

Let's see what some Chapters are known for other than war:
1) Imperial Fists - skilled engineers
2) Blood Angels - artists
3) Iron Hands - scientists and engineers
4) Ultramarines - administrators and organizers
5) Salamanders - artisans

If we include pre-Heresy Legions:
1) Thousands Sons - scholars
2) Word Bearers - educators
3) Emperor's Children - artists

And besides, like money's a problem for the Imperium at large. The Administratum can juggle funds and resources out of nothing, so to
speak, in spite of/or because of it's massive bureaucracy. Not to mention capitalism isn't really a big thing in the Imperium. The Ecclesiarchy resembles medieval catholicism, so it's no surprise capitalism is in chains, not to mention the heavy regimentation, control, and standardization of the Imperium, which would effectively kill capitalist trends.

LORD_PANTERA wrote:Here is another review of Space Marine:
http://www.gamespot.com/warhammer-40-000-space-marine/reviews/warhammer-40000-space-marine-review-6333272/

It seems to be that this game might following down the same road as Fire Warrrior

I could have told you that before the game came out... But I enjoyed Firewarrior and I enjoyed Space Marine. I suffered no delusions that these games exaggerated the crap out of the main character, but the appeal was watching the 40k universe come to life.
ALL shooters are monotonous. Sorry, they just are. If you're interested in the story, you'll keep grinding.
Personally I'd love to see a 40k game about anything except SMs. I'm praying that Dark Millennium allows us to play all 8 factions (Imperium, Chaos, Orks, Tau, Necrons, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tyranids) But I have a sinking feeling it's just going to be the stale, overdone Orks/SMs/Chaos/Eldar.

This was discussed before: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/401811.page

I don't like it when reviews base their opinions on factual errors, as Yahtzee has done here. Other than that I don't mind what he has to say, I just wish he'd do a bit more research.

ifStatement wrote:Yeh to be fair he's not even trying to be funny through a lot of it. He seems to be genuinely bitter that people would rather play 40k than his beloved dungeons and dragons.

...I like dungeons and dragons...

As stated before I wouldn't take anything yahtzee says without a pinch of salt.He makes his living out of reviewing game and as he has said himself,people don't like it when he gives positive reviews to things.Also he is one of the funniest people on the internet.

loota boy wrote:

ifStatement wrote:Yeh to be fair he's not even trying to be funny through a lot of it. He seems to be genuinely bitter that people would rather play 40k than his beloved dungeons and dragons.

...I like dungeons and dragons...

It wouldn't really be Yahtzee if he used facts. He's not really a serious reviewer, it's more of a comedy column. He's not bitter, he does the same thing to every game he reviews, taking things out of context and making the background story sound stupid.

Read his stuff for gaks and giggles, then actually play a demo of the game to decide whether it's good, is what I do.

Not that I put much stock in modern game reviews anyway, most of them just read like marketing blurbs or terrible teen blogs. At least Yahtzee writes something that's amusing.

There can't "only" be war, don't be stupid. People would have to stop and go to the lavatory at some point.

But being the first to do something doesn't necessarily make you good at it. I could be the first person to peel off a child's face, roll it into a tube and work it into my cockhole, but no-one's going to call me the standard by which all future supply teachers should be judged.

Admit it you lol'ed as well.

Beyond that. meh...

I mean OH NO, someone dislikes the convuleted confused and contridictary background of 40k.

Call the inquiston, we have a turd in the punch bowl.

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