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DPBellathrom wrote:necrons, before they had a poor selection of OK models and nice fluff and now they have crap models with crap fluff. the only thing that would ever motivate me to play them is that I could have an army painted in a day :/

Not sure if serious...

Ignoring the fluff concerns, the new necrons models are immensely better than the old ones. Or did you like only having four or five different monopose units?

note how I said "poor selection" and following your logic the new flayed ones look better than the old ones.........

sure its a slight imporvement but they all look fat :3 'crons shouldnt be fat......

I'd been scratchbuilding and kitbashing vehicles preparing for a new Sisters of Battle army when the plastics came out.

Then GW enacted the trade embargo against Australia, gave them a gak WDex, didn't bother making plastic kits and put me off GW models forever.

At the moment I'm waiting for DFG's female USMC and/or Mantic's holy army.

I loved Dark Eldar when I started, but I grew really disillusioned as they became a forgotten race with horrible models. the VDR helped, but there were just half assed patches on them. I just got too bored of them finally and sold em off. The new line is MUCH cooler and its tempting me to start em again, but now they are commonly played. I thought Necrons might be cool when they came out, but I got scared off as I noticed the thin selection and weak support.

I've never liked SM of any flavor except chaos and Wolves (both seemed like fun to model), but I could never bring my self to play any of them as they are the default army, they all run together for me. Everyone expected you to start with and have marines of some flavor. UGH.

Daemons. The idea never really appealed to me and it would be a little strange with someone with an interest in theology to have a horde of mini demons on the shelf now wouldn't it?

Not really

I have a degree in Philosophy and Religion (useful ) and a hefty Daemons army

Keeping real world beliefs and Wargaming fluff seperate helps

I have a DE army too, but it doesn't make me a sadistic psychopathic junkie

I had about 4000pts of Tyranids. Almost all painted. I loved to play with bugs and likely played more games with them than any other army i posses. Then the new codex came out. I tried to embrace it. I played it a handful of times with different builds but each time when i was making a list i felt as though there were really only a few options.
Hive Guard
Tervigon
Gaunts and stealers.
Done.
After repeatedly trying to get excited about the new book i stopped playing with them entirely. THey lost all dimension with the new dex. It is easily the most poorly written and concieved codex i have ever had forced upon my army by GW. I will not ever ever ever buy a nids model again. My army went up on ebay and i sincerly hope that the fellow in Oz who bought it is enjoying it because it was nothing but a royal disappointment for me.
nough said.

The Vampire Counts released a little while ago for warhammer.
Before i even looked at the prices of the models O_o I was put off by the sculpting.
The latest edition of Empire has the same problem for me.
There seems to be a uniformity of style coming into the GW fantasy armies since they have switched to the CAD software style of sculpting and I don't like it.
It is not too my taste at all.
There is an angularity to facial features and torso positions that I do not appreciate and i can only put it down to the CAD-diffication of the sculpting style. Particularly in the plastics.
It is not apparent in the Perry miniatures range but it is apparent in the last two army releases for Gw's WFB and as long as it continues I will not even get a chance to look at the inflated prices because the sculpting style puts me off.

A few times, I have.

The biggest was Dark Eldar though. They were my first army, starting with the 3rd edition starter set's 20 Warriors. I played them religiously as my primary army for years all the way until the new 'dex came out. I was pretty excited, dumped a fair amount into at least one of everything from the first wave and the codex, and then promptly traded the army off as codex creep had ruined my favorite army for me. I loved my fragile, nigh impossible to use army, and it had become anything but.

When I was first starting, just learning how to play and trying random codices with proxies, I desperately wanted to play Eldar. Loved the aesthetics of the models, loved some of the units (I always wanted to run a full-on Iyanden force, with nothing but Wraithguard and Wraithlords, just for the lulz of having an entire army with T6), loved the fluff. Then it came down to buying the models, and I just went "Whoa." At retail prices, $15 for a single Wraithguard model - something that comes in a unit of 10 and is supposed to be my basic troop. Once I hit that little stumbling block, I just said no to the whole army. Note that this was back before I really paid attention to things like good armies and what would work in an army list...

The ROW embargo managed to completely destroy several different armies i had either started or was planning to start for years.

Lustria treasure hunters, (i even brought 24 Mordheim amazons models years ago to use as hired help.)
Pirate themed undead army.
Undead hunter/witch hunter themed empire army.
Arabian themed Tomb Kings, (flying carpets, snake charmers etc.)

I had always planned to start a Necron army at some point too, i always like the idea of them being a sort of a faceless enemy with a hint of a forgotten past. But now with the updated range, all i can see when i look at them is Tomb Kings in Spaaaaace.

Why dont you just use the new models, with the 3rd ed codex in friendly games?

Mr Gutsy wrote:The ROW embargo managed to completely destroy several different armies i had either started or was planning to start for years.

Actually the same thing happened to me. A planned WFB Orc & Goblin army got canned (I was living in a country with no GW, so no practical way to get minis other than mail order).

On the plus side it made me a look around Maelstrom's online store at the other stuff out there and I discovered Infinity. I haven't been that excited about a wargame since 40k 2nd edition, and probably saved myself about £300 into the bargain, so thanks GW without your efforts I would never have discovered this wonderful game

This happened to me with Tau. I liked them at the beginning, Really..
But then i realised that almost every list i played was look alike.
Every list i have builded needed suits to make it work.
I' m not negative with the use of suits but it's not in my likes to build
loads of mechsuits all the times.
And Tau nowdays don't work with anything else..
And mostly because many people disagree with FW experimental rules.
That's why i stopped. Now i play with my main army for the glory of chaos..
Still my Wood elves suck and are a pain in the back to play.
Woaa, but i guess thats life...

I have a big painted Nids army and was the one I used to game most with.

Then the new codex came and I havn't played with the army since.

I really loved how many opions there were when creating an army list.

Almost everything in the list could be upgraded and tailored to different roles.

Building and playing different list with this army was so much fun.

The new codex nerfed some of the more expensive models in the army and required me to buy a whole heap of new ones.

On top of that some of the new models weren't even available to buy.

My favourite army is dead to me sadly and sits in a display cabinet until the a new codex for them is released.

Before the newest Codex, I loved Grey Knights. I have around six squads of Power Armoured Grey Jnights, three Squads of Terminators, converted Land Raiders, Forge World Dreadnaughts...

They're all currently sitting in there case because I just can't bring myself to buy the Grey Knights Codex and give Games Workshop the idea that the fluff in there is in anyway wanted or desired. The rules are OK - I'd convert some of my PA Grey Knights over to Interceptors and maybe a squad of Purifiers, despite the iffy fluff for them, but I wouldn't touch Paladins or Draigo with anything less than a lascannon blast.

But I can't stand so much of the fluff in there. Half of it is crap and another quarter just...wrong. It's pretty heart breaking for me, and it doesn't help that the one time I've pulled them out of Storage to tag with a friend I got yelled at for 'jumping on the bandwagon'.

Space Marines (including Space Wolves).
I want to like them, but I just cannot play them. I just don't find them fun after playing my Orks.

MrMerlin wrote:I really want to do a tzeentch army with deamons made of molten polystereyne...... My mom hears about it, and "No, melting that stuff is too dangerous, you're not doing it!"

-_-

I really hope you're joking. if you want to melt a bunch of plastic and get cancer and die, be my guest. As an added bonus, you'll have a bunch of ugly misshapen lumps of plastic surrounding your corpse.

DPBellathrom wrote:necrons, before they had a poor selection of OK models and nice fluff and now they have crap models with crap fluff. the only thing that would ever motivate me to play them is that I could have an army painted in a day :/

Yes, now that the army actually has fluff and has way, way more models than they used to have with significantly more options and detail, they're "crap". The only models they have now that are bad are the Flayed Ones, and even then they're not the worst thing I've ever seen. Flayed Ones have terrible rules anyway, so it's not like you'd ever use them. GW actually made the army interesting, and if you think that they made them Tom Kings in Space, well, they were always Tomb Kings in Space.

He's allowed his opinion,

Not everyone appreciated the retcon, after all, even if some like the new fluff and new models.

I dislike the new models, personally, as they are too overdecorated and blingy. I wouldn't go quite as far as calling them crappy, but they are no longer to my taste, and the older models' style was.

They used to be Nyarlathotep in space, in my opinion, and are more like Mum-Ra in space these days. Both have Egyptian influences, but that doesn't make them identical.

YMMV of course, but that would be your opinion, as this is mine

Before they were




Now they're more




Both are cool, but they aren't the same vibe.

I wanted to do a DE army. I loved the models and even bought and converted a few. Then I read the fluff section in the DE codex. And ended that dream right there.

I can do grimdark, but that book crosses a line. Never again...

I have been tempted by brettonians though the idea of painting each model as an individual would just result in me taking several months just to finish a single unit. I've also quite liked the aesthetics and character of space wolves for a number of years but the stigma attached to the current dex plus the bland repetitiveness on most wolf lists these days is really off-putting. Same could be said for any army where (insert transport of choice)spam is considered mandatory

I got turned off of my Cryx army. I'd spent quite a bit of money buying it, time painting it, and had done a ton of reading about it, only to get absolutely stomped by a fairly vanilla Khador list my first time ever playing. It wasn't even close, and I can't see a scenario that my list had a chance to win.


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I got turned off of my Cryx army. I'd spent quite a bit of money buying it, time painting it, and had done a ton of reading about it, only to get absolutely stomped by a fairly vanilla Khador list my first time ever playing. It wasn't even close, and I can't see a scenario that my list had a chance to win.

I was building a Word Bearers army for the 3.5 codex when the new book came out and made that a much less fun idea.

I have high hopes for this Chaos Legions book, though. Also, as a long-time Necron player I love the new models.

People are often put off by fluff so I do read it I know its stupid but I don't get put off the amazing models!