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"Destroyed - explodes!
The unit suffers a number of Strength 4, AP- hits equal to the number of models embarked, treated just like hits from shooting. The surviving passengers are placed where the vehicle used to be and then take a Pinning test.

So the models that are placed are considered to have disembarked."

Except thats not what the rule says. It tells you to place ALL survivors within the vehicles footprint then do a pin-check. The rule book places no restrictions on that regarding distance from other models. The 1" restriction comes from the rules for movement, which is specified under the disembark/emergency disembark rules for wrecked vehicles. Note that while that 1" rule is specified in that case, it is NOT specified under the former.
Had GW intended for the 1" rule to apply, they would have spelled it out in the rule like so:
Destroyed - explodes!
The unit suffers a number of Strength 4, AP- hits equal to the number of models embarked, treated just like hits from shooting. The surviving passengers are placed where the vehicle used to be, maintaining a 1" separation from enemy models. Models that can not be placed due to proximity of enemy models are considered destroyed. After placing surviving models a Pinning test is then made.
Since the 1" rule is mentioned in one case and not the other, you can deduce GW did not intend for the rule to apply in that situation.
And for the folks saying 10 models do fit in a Rhino, why is it that a normal Land Raider has room for 12, yet a Crusader, with the exact same interior layout as modeled, can carry 16?

Actually, the 1" restriction is global, not movement phase specific.
It's given in rules under movement phase, but that doesn't mean it only applies there, unless you want to argue that roll to wound and armour saves only apply on shooting phase.

Brb page 11
"A model cannot move so that it touches an enemy model during the Movement and Shooting phases - this is only possible in an assault during the Assault phase.
To keep this distinction clear, a model may not move within 1" of an enemy model unless assaulting."

So you're given blanket denial to move closer to 1" of a model, unless you're assaulting. Any time you wish to move model (placing model is analogous to moving it as per BRB disembark FAQ) you need specific permission to do so.

The fact that BRB explicitly says you cannot disembark within 1" is only reminding you of this rule, not statement that "You can always move/place models within 1" of an enemy model unless otherwise specified".

So, it boils down to whether placing a unit is movement. If it is not, you can place your models wherever you want.

nosferatu1001 wrote:While technically they are not disembarking, and are thus not moving and not subject to the 1" restriction, I never see it played any other way than option 1.

Before anyone brings up "now disembarked" you can be in the state of disembarked, i.e. no longer embarked on the vehicle, without following the disembark process as given in the rulebook, whcih is what models suffering the Explodes! result dont do. They would struggle to follow the disembark process as there are no exit points any longer, and no hull.

if they are technically not disembarking then me moving flat out in a skimmer ramming another vehicle and exploding, passing my pinning check and then assaulting.

The reason is if they are disembarking and cant due to going flat out they are destroyed. but according to you they are not so i can do as i said above???

No, because the FAQ specifcally tells you that they're dead.

It says they are destroyed due to being unable to disembark. So if technically they are not disembarking then they are not destroyed. If the vehicle is wrecked no question. Talking about explodes.

It says they are destroyed. The "due to" isnt relevant here
There is your FAQ answer.

Q:If a transport vehicle is destroyed in a Movement phase in which it has moved flatout, what happens to any embarked models, as passengers may not disembark from a vehicle
that has moved flat out in that Movement phase?(p70)
A: they are destroyed.

The key word is disembarked.

THE_GODLYNESS wrote:Q:If a transport vehicle is destroyed in a Movement phase in which it has moved flatout, what happens to any embarked models, as passengers may not disembark from a vehicle
that has moved flat out in that Movement phase?(p70)
A: they are destroyed.

The key word is disembarked.

The key word is Destroyed.
It doesn't matter if the result is Destoyed-wrecked or Destroyed-explodes, or even if you claim explodes doesn't technically disembark them. The FAQ doesn't say the unit is destoyed if they disembark but can't. If it did you might have a point (a weak one, but still).
Weather they technically disembark or not isn't relevent in this case as either way the unit is destroyed.

If a transport vehicle is destroyed

No, the key phrase is there. Note it does not care what result.

With an explodes result, the placement is a disembark anyway, as noted in the GK FaQ:

Q: What happens to an embarked Dreadnought that
suffers an Immobilized result from the hit when the
Stormraven it is embarked in Explodes? (p37)
A: It is Destroyed as it is unable to disembark.

Placed = Disembark.

you can fit the marines but not the marines bases. Makes sense, why would marines carry around large mounds of grass and dirt in their cars?

I had the same problem trying to get 10 DE onto a raider.

happend to me the other day i had 4 marines that i could place......