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Breotan wrote:The guestimating going on an the Seattle Bunker is July for the RULEBOOK. Sep for the starter set. Oct/Nov for Chaos.

This pretty much follows the sched for fantasy 8 right? Seems to be how they would do it this time, grab as many hardcover sales as they can then go through and get everyone who bought the hardcover and the rest who didn't to get the box. only one codex this year, although bummer, also sounds pretty plausible.

Fantasy 8 and 40k 5 off the top of my head.

*yawn*
*looks at watch*

So. No new news? This is like the third thread that hasn't contributed much of anything to the chaos rumours machine...

ShumaGorath wrote:I hate announcements of announcements.

Agreed, but yet I can't stop reading the thread.

Tasty is pretty accurate when he does let info slip. His Necron and GK rumors were pretty detailed and spot-on for what was in the codex, and he was releasing those rumors before anyone else was squawking anything at all.

This is a sad dissapointment... I really want to start either a speed freak army or an eldar army but i refuse to do it until the new codexes and minis come out

Riddick40k wrote:This is a sad dissapointment... I really want to start either a speed freak army or an eldar army but i refuse to do it until the new codexes and minis come out

Nothing's stopping you for Speed Freaks since the models are recent (and excellent) and the rules are very good.

Brother SRM wrote:

Riddick40k wrote:This is a sad dissapointment... I really want to start either a speed freak army or an eldar army but i refuse to do it until the new codexes and minis come out

Nothing's stopping you for Speed Freaks since the models are recent (and excellent) and the rules are very good.

And as the recent releases has shown, even if you do get the new codex you desire, don't hold your breath for all the models to be available.

I can't remember, but did Tasty's couple of Necron rumours come before or after Yak's?
I remember some of his rumours at-least were pretty much 'what Yak said'.

reps0l wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Riddick40k wrote:This is a sad dissapointment... I really want to start either a speed freak army or an eldar army but i refuse to do it until the new codexes and minis come out

Nothing's stopping you for Speed Freaks since the models are recent (and excellent) and the rules are very good.

And as the recent releases has shown, even if you do get the new codex you desire, don't hold your breath for all the models to be available.

And there's little evidence of either being updated within 2012 too.

Could just use a fandex for the Eldar.

A full year of space marines. Sighs.

Well it won't cause pause on my new Dark Angels force, as unless something very odd happens I am still convinced we will be getting them in the 6th box.

However it will mean I will be careful on what I pick up and paint until the codex shows up. Probably stick with a Ravenwing force to start, as it won't clash with anything else when the book comes out, well it shouldn't do.

Also it'll be nice to have a few speeders again, and I've been meaning to have a go at painting Sammuel and his bike for a while.

I can't remember, but did Tasty's couple of Necron rumours come before or after Yak's?
I remember some of his rumours at-least were pretty much 'what Yak said'.

reps0l wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Riddick40k wrote:This is a sad dissapointment... I really want to start either a speed freak army or an eldar army but i refuse to do it until the new codexes and minis come out

Nothing's stopping you for Speed Freaks since the models are recent (and excellent) and the rules are very good.

And as the recent releases has shown, even if you do get the new codex you desire, don't hold your breath for all the models to be available.

And there's little evidence of either being updated within 2012 too.

Could just use a fandex for the Eldar.

Totalwar1402 wrote:A full year of space marines. Sighs.

GW just likes to push its customers to the point of leaving the game.

Totalwar1402 wrote:A full year of space marines. Sighs.

I am under the impression that they just recently released some new Tyranid kits, and that we get a bunch of new Necrons in like ten days or so, plus the flyers release(s) that are rumoured to include an Ork model as well as perhaps the remaining Dark Eldar & Necron flyers.

So cut these bullocks will you?

TBD wrote:

Totalwar1402 wrote:A full year of space marines. Sighs.

I am under the impression that they just recently released some new Tyranid kits, and that we get a bunch of new Necrons in like ten days or so, plus the flyers release(s) that are rumoured to include an Ork model as well as perhaps the remaining Dark Eldar & Necron flyers.

So cut these bullocks will you?

I like the cut of your jib.

TBD wrote:

Totalwar1402 wrote:A full year of space marines. Sighs.

I am under the impression that they just recently released some new Tyranid kits, and that we get a bunch of new Necrons in like ten days or so, plus the flyers release(s) that are rumoured to include an Ork model as well as perhaps the remaining Dark Eldar & Necron flyers.

So cut these bullocks will you?

You know that I'am refering to codex's not a few models that should have came out a while back or a necron wave we were all expecting. Plus, we've been hearing about the Summer of Flyers for a long time. Its far more likely that every army will get a flyer as it gets a new army; not get them all at once.

Totalwar1402 wrote:

You know that I'am refering to codex's not a few models that should have came out a while back or a necron wave we were all expecting. Plus, we've been hearing about the Summer of Flyers for a long time. Its far more likely that every army will get a flyer as it gets a new army; not get them all at once.

See. That is where you go wrong. The production pipeline of GW is models, not books. What people paint and play with on the table are models, not books. Unloading major releases like Dark Eldar (~ 30 new products) or Necrons (~ 20 new products with the new wave) isn't going to happen everyday. Small, filler-releases like Space Wolves (10 new products including the second wave), Blood Angels (9 new products over 2 waves) or Grey Knights (6 new products) can fill some of the holes.

But "removing" a small release like Grey Knights or, likely, Dark Angels isn't going to net another Dark Eldar or Necron release. Removing them would simply mean one release less overall.

So with the “gauntlet” thrown, I won’t be posting anything about 6th and the CSM codex today.

Instead I am going to wait one day to see if we can get others to shake that rumor tree first.

Seriously?

Well, I'm not going to show you mine until you show me yours... How 'bout dem apples?

Zweischneid wrote:[

See. That is where you go wrong. The production pipeline of GW is models, not books. What people paint and play with on the table are models, not books. Unloading major releases like Dark Eldar (~ 30 new products) or Necrons (~ 20 new products with the new wave) isn't going to happen everyday. Small, filler-releases like Space Wolves (10 new products including the second wave), Blood Angels (9 new products over 2 waves) or Grey Knights (6 new products) can fill some of the holes.

But "removing" a small release like Grey Knights or, likely, Dark Angels isn't going to net another Dark Eldar or Necron release. Removing them would simply mean one release less overall.

Surely Chaos and Dark Angels aren't going to be big releases? Most of their tanks/models are already covered in plastic. Which means over a year with the new edition n hobbit before we get anything of note. Basically theres not going to be a big release like Necrons or DE if this rumour is true. 2012 is going to be dry for 40k, no codex early part of the year, rulebook nobody asked for and then chaos. I'd have to wait late 2013 for a big non-marine release since that seems to be how they've done the codexs. So we're getting two small releases (both marine) and a rulebook (which isn't needed) rather than a big release.

To clarify on what is a big/small relese IMO

Big release
*Chaos Daemons (reads like a white dwarf dex as is)
*Craftworld Eldar (need plastic aspect warriors)
*Sisters of Battle (no units currently sold in stores n PDF codex)

'Small' release
*Tau (debatable)
*Dark Angels
*Black Templars
*Chaos Space Marines (they are the big bad guy and could have room to expand; but they already have a huge model range from 3rd ed its just very old)

Its easy to forget how hard GW pushed chaos in 3rd edition around the Eye of terror campaign. Best codex, huge amount of new models, the biggest plastic kit and really there neglect should be seen relative to that fact. Orks are probably in a similar position to Chaos in 4th; they have everything in plastic they concievably need.

Kroothawk wrote:Sometimes he has rumours that turn out true (like Sororitas getting a WD Codex only).

Technically Eternal Warriors (Then known as Dice Like Thunder) were the first with that rumour, well over a year before the WD was actually released.

Wonder if the box will come with a price increase on the DA upgrade sprues and such. I really regret not going nuts with them when they were still 2 for half as much as they are currently.

But I'll certainly buy a couple if they'll get a price hike with the upcoming stuff.

Why don't you wait and see what actually does get released this year instead of the premature complaining

TBD wrote:Why don't you wait and see what actually does get released this year instead of the premature complaining

HERESY!

TBD wrote:Why don't you wait and see what actually does get released this year instead of the premature complaining

Well if I comment on a rumour I don't like then its going to be negative; but it only concerns speculation on if the rumours true. By your logic I shouldn't be prematurely hopeful or glad; which I assume many chaos or DA players would be at this rumour. I'am personally skeptical. Each new edition always brings out new vanilla marines. Vanilla then Dark Angels (or being rolled up) is more likely given the DA being on the painting box.

BoK was pretty accurate with his Necron Rumors, and he did come out with them before Yakface gave us the first big sneak peak.

So, he has a bit of reliability. I know he was the first to talk about Writhing Worldscape.

TBD wrote:Why don't you wait and see what actually does get released this year instead of the premature complaining

Then this wouldn't be the Internet...

I think that Tasteytaste is on the up and up. Like he said, he's trying to shake some of the other rumors loose.

Totalwar makes a point. Some codices will come with huge releases of models and others just 'new' stuff.
Something else to ponder...

April saw a huge release, numbers wise. Something like 170 products.
May is shaping up to be similar... Several Necron kits and a Finecast wave that rivals the initial release.
Rumors for June have flyers... there may be a Codex/WD codex for one of the Armies that doesn't need much in the way of new models.

Call me naive, call me overly hopeful... just don't call me late for supper.

Nvs wrote:Wonder if the box will come with a price increase on the DA upgrade sprues and such. I really regret not going nuts with them when they were still 2 for half as much as they are currently.

But I'll certainly buy a couple if they'll get a price hike with the upcoming stuff.

Once a new Dark Angels release hits something will almost certainly happen to those veteran sprues, you just know it will, so I have been ordering them as well.

Enjoy a good deal while it lasts.

sorry this sounds like "i got nothing, but want to sound like i knew something when that thing comes out" to me, as i always say "lack of evidence, is not evidence"

TBD wrote:Why don't you wait and see what actually does get released this year instead of the premature complaining

This is apparently a novel concept to many posters in this thread, unfortunately.

Brother SRM wrote:

TBD wrote:Why don't you wait and see what actually does get released this year instead of the premature complaining

This is apparently a novel concept to many posters in every single thread ever, unfortunately.

Fixed that for you......